• Have the devs got the IP of the DDos and hopefully inform the police?
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Have the devs got the IP of the DDos and hopefully inform the police? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("there's already several threads going for discussing this..." - postal))[/highlight]
im gonna just post you as dumb
I don't think it's that easy, and I believe that if they've found them, they would've stopped by now.
Unfortunately DDOS is damn near impossible to track, even if they were able to get a trace on the connection causing the DDOS, it would most likely just lead to a compromised system and not the actual DDOSer, GOTTA LOVE THE GUY WHO CREATED DDOSING S:
why its a legit question
[QUOTE=kingsley;43337288]why its a legit question[/QUOTE] 'Cause, one does not simply catch a DDoS'er.
Number 1 proxy so good luck. Number 2 depends what country they are from. Some countries consider Ddos a legit form of protest. Number 3 I HIGHLY doubt the devs were just sitting around waiting for you to post to tell them what to do and how to handle their ddos problems.
[QUOTE=Kittystyle;43337330]'Cause, one does not simply catch a DDoS'er.[/QUOTE] Well i don't exactly know how it works but if hes clogging up the servers can there not be an ip address obtained. if so its a criminal offence
[QUOTE=kingsley;43337354]Well i don't exactly know how it works but if hes clogging up the servers can there not be an ip address obtained. if so its a criminal offence[/QUOTE] Again depends on what country its coming from.
[QUOTE=kingsley;43337354]Well i don't exactly know how it works but if hes clogging up the servers can there not be an ip address obtained. if so its a criminal offence[/QUOTE] Wrong. It is a criminal offense in SOME countries.
The DDOS could be originating from Africa which is sending to a compromised server in Sweden which is sending to a compromised server in Russia which is sending to a compromised server in Amsterdam, Which is sending to a compro.... you see why its difficult to track?
[QUOTE=TheRealNox;43337369]The DDOS could be originating from Africa which is sending to a compromised server in Sweden which is sending to a compromised server in Russia which is sending to a compromised server in Amsterdam, Which is sending to a compro.... you see why its difficult to track?[/QUOTE] This pretty much. Then you finally obtain the IP of the final system, send an abuse email and never get a reply. Yeah, you can take it to the court. But by the time the session actually starts, the attack will be over already. Or you find another solution.
You know that DDoS attacks are performed by (up to) thousands of computers bouncing off eachother, therefore it's never possible (without user error on the DDoSer's end) to find the originating IP as there's so many. That's why they're so hard to catch.
Here's something a lot of people seem to forget: DDoS means [B]Distributed[/B] Denial of Service. That means it's coming from multiple sources, usually some sort of botnet. It's extremely difficult if not impossible to track down the hacker behind a DDoS attack. If there's only one source it's a DoS attack. [editline]28th December 2013[/editline] oh wow damnit
[QUOTE=kingsley;43337354]Well i don't exactly know how it works but if hes clogging up the servers can there not be an ip address obtained. if so its a criminal offence[/QUOTE] It's not actually a criminal offense,It depends where your from. Its a program that just request and send infomation packets to and from a server so rapidly its crashes the server.
[QUOTE]You know that DDoS attacks are performed by (up to) thousands of computers bouncing off eachother, therefore it's never possible (without user error on the DDoSer's end) to find the originating IP as there's so many. That's why they're so hard to catch.[/QUOTE] That - and taking that into account everybody with a sane mind should know all this stupid "we got ddosd" talking is total bullshi* !!! Does anybody ever think about how expensive it is to rent a botnet?? Has nobody of those "ddos believers" ever thought about what it takes to make a successful ddos attack on a server cluster?? Nobody can afford it if they can't make a very fair share out of the outcome... Having a botnet is the biggest business in cybercriminality and therfore nobody could (or if he/she/they could, never would) afford the fees to get access to a botnet to make a successful ddos attack on anything! Do people really think such things are for free? lol... Gosh! nowadays it seems using the term ddos is an excuse for everthing which is going wrong... (especially in the gaming industry) - but hey... at least the devs have a good laugh seeing how those gaming lemmings believe that crap sry for my language but reading things like "blblblbl got ddosd" makes me wanna rage...
[QUOTE=Vint3r;43337715]That - and taking that into account everybody with a sane mind should know all this stupid "we got ddosd" talking is total bullshi* !!! Does anybody ever think about how expensive it is to rent a botnet?? Has nobody of those "ddos believers" ever thought about what it takes to make a successful ddos attack on a server cluster?? Nobody can afford it if they can't make a very fair share out of the outcome... Having a botnet is the biggest business in cybercriminality and therfore nobody could (or if he/she/they could, never would) afford the fees to get access to a botnet to make a successful ddos attack on anything! Do people really think such things are for free? lol... Gosh! nowadays it seems using the term ddos is an excuse for everthing which is going wrong... (especially in the gaming industry) - but hey... at least the devs have a good laugh seeing how those gaming lemmings believe that crap sry for my language but reading things like "blblblbl got ddosd" makes me wanna rage...[/QUOTE] It's a DoS for sure. I don't believe it is a botnet. The devs stated that it is an exploit involving empty packets and the server browser. Everyone is treating it as if it's something bigtime while I think it's just a script kid or two being frustrated. [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1339686&p=43337231"]Everyone assumes that some elaborate hacker is behind all this...[/URL]
[B]IP addresses are NOT PEOPLE[/B] and most smart DDoS'ers use a proxy / vpn
interesting, coms. so if its not ddos then what is it?
Only idiots would use their home PC's without proxy, or any form of spoof can get tracked.
I dont really know a lot about this type of thing so if this sounds stupid then just ignore it but could we (the gamers) be creating this issue? if a lot of people are trying to join multiple servers at the same time then that would clog the system right? with this game being in alpha (meaning they are still developing it) could it just mean that it is doing a bit better than expected or their servers having more traffic than expected? Im not ruling the ddos attack out but maybe the user is a contributing factor
[QUOTE=Ananda;43337868]It's a DoS for sure. I don't believe it is a botnet. The devs stated that it is an exploit involving empty packets and the server browser. Everyone is treating it as if it's something bigtime while I think it's just a script kid or two being frustrated. [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1339686&p=43337231"]Everyone assumes that some elaborate hacker is behind all this...[/URL][/QUOTE] if, only if some kind of exploit is causing ddos-like effects - which i really wouldn't rule out, then i would assume that it has something to do with the server browser and how it handels it's own requests to their masterserver. The playerbase is growing and if you look at the times when those server issues start - every early morning hours over here in europe until about 3-4 pm it runs smooth as oil, but as soon as the potiential playerbase rises - like when the americas getting out of their sheets - the lags and suddenly the server failures start.. So, yes, i could imagine that they inadvertently createt a bottle neck in their server architecture which (i dunno where.. authentication service, or whereever) causes these problems right now..
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