Struggle with aiming in game, need some tips or help. - Rust

As a rust player, I have extreme difficulties aiming with multitudes of weapons from pistols to machine guns. I say this because I have a hard time knowing how to deal with recoil, aiming for peoples heads, and even how much the weapons sway within the game. I wish to create this thread to ask how I can become better so I can easily take down players within the game who repeatedly says "lrn2aimnoob". Any feedback will be greatly apprectiated.

I have a hard time playing shooters at anything under 60fps. Look on the forums for guides on how to achieve 60fps.

[QUOTE=Afrothundakat;43585016]I have a hard time playing shooters at anything under 60fps. Look on the forums for guides on how to achieve 60fps.[/QUOTE] I think that wasn't what he meant. But Rust isn't made as a Shooter like you would think. It's survival, not slaying groups of people as a single man. Besides this they're working on some weapon mechanics. So aiming is pretty hard atm. But with a little bit of practise it's possible to hit some heads. :)

single shots, lotta recoil in the game but otherwise the bullet travel time and direction are pretty right on with the sights. best thing i can recommend is when u have guns, before you lose them, use them as much as possible on animals etc to practice

I don't know, I've seen some incredible shooters and for the life of me I can't figure out how they get their iron sights so stable. Mine is all over the place. Froxer streams and has videos on youtube of some absolutely absurd gunfights that I have no doubt he gets accused of aimbotting for. I can't even get the BAR to fire straight ;_;

I usually go on pve servers to practice my aim on zombies, but I really can't line up my shots a lot due to their buggy head movements or i'm just that bad. Edit: In player encounters I usually die first because they get the headshot on me before I do, wondering if there are any programs/games that improve reflex time or aiming.

[QUOTE=Scynix;43585213]I don't know, I've seen some incredible shooters and for the life of me I can't figure out how they get their iron sights so stable. Mine is all over the place. Froxer streams and has videos on youtube of some absolutely absurd gunfights that I have no doubt he gets accused of aimbotting for. I can't even get the BAR to fire straight ;_;[/QUOTE] Videos from the newer versions? And it's pretty stable if you crouch and don't move. [QUOTE=zrtec1;43585215] Edit: In player encounters I usually die first because they get the headshot on me before I do, wondering if there are any programs/games that improve reflex time or aiming.[/QUOTE] It's called ''aimbot''.

[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;43585264]It's called ''aimbot''.[/QUOTE] I want something I can use thats not cheating, I would rather not do this so I can get better in all fps games in general.

[QUOTE=zrtec1;43585309]I want something I can use thats not cheating, I would rather not do this so I can get better in all fps games in general.[/QUOTE] If you use any program that improves your aim (exept a good mouse driver), then it's a cheat.

[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;43585335]If you use any program that improves your aim (exept a good mouse driver), then it's a cheat.[/QUOTE] I was thinking more of a reflex game honestly, I don't want anything that touches my mouse or injects anything into the game.

[QUOTE=zrtec1;43585384]I was thinking more of a reflex game honestly, I don't want anything that touches my mouse or injects anything into the game.[/QUOTE] I don't get what you want. A reflex game? Rust isn't made to be a common FPS. And mouse drivers are often delivered with your mouse (I'm not talking about native mouse drivers). Thats nothing bad. Myself don't use mouse drivers from Logitech. It makes my aim worse. But some people get a better mouse aim with their drivers. I dunno the model you have but it could be worth a try.

The games hit registry and player movement models are very very poor, the shooting in this game is mediocre at this stage so don't expect much from it Also with the amount of players the game holds I'd assume the ticrate is also extremely low, and the information which data is sent probably isn't too high either.

i hear that the aiming isnt what you may be used to. There isnt really any leading or anything like that. From one post i read if your crosshair is on target when you fire it will hit

[QUOTE=MrSandman70;43585794]i hear that the aiming isnt what you may be used to. There isnt really any leading or anything like that. From one post i read if your crosshair is on target when you fire it will hit[/QUOTE] Yeah as long the target is in range. Currently there is no ballistics for weapons. So the bullet just fly on a straight line and disappear after a certain range.

As a person who doesn't use the bolt action a lot my tip would be to get close without being seen and fill them with bullets don't bother trying to be accurate half the time. A full pistol clip into the body seems to be just as good as that lucky one shot to the head. Like people are saying it isn't an fps its a survival game and the best way to survive is to kill them before giving them a chance to react then your reflexes shouldn't be a problem, just practice sneaking.

I came into this game after playing many many hours in Red Orchestra (ROCA, RO1 & RO2) which uses only iron sights, lots of weapon sway, recoil effects and free aim which this game also uses, so it was and still is pretty easy to land accurate shots. Only use single shot bursts to control the amount of recoil, except at close range when your life may be at risk. Accurate single shots are better than many inaccurate ones. Use the tip of the front foresight as your aiming point. Place the tip of the front sight over what you want to hit like an arrow pointing "Shoot Here" Being in crouch not only reduces your profile so there is less of you to hit, but reduces your weapon sway as well. The trick is as soon as you see your sights overlay what you want to hit, shoot without delay as you May miss your opportunity for a critical hit. It takes practice to balance when to shoot and when to wait..... But the more you practice the easier it is to predict the weapons characteristics and how to time them. I was landing headshots on zombies right away. I might not snap-shot targets right away, but my first shot usually kills. Taking your time and making your shots accurate is key when you want to have the advantage of surprise. You save more bullets, more health and more of you life by getting the upper hand right away than going in with guns blazing. from my experience in the game, the laser sight is useless and doesn't hit where it points and on the pistols, the silencer blocks your sights and makes it difficult without the reflex sight attached...... I tend to prefer just using the iron sights.

well i cant pvp since im on 20 fps

It's okay. Apparently if you have really good aim you're an aimbotter in this community. But it just takes practice like any other game. Playing some counter-strike could help you improve on your gun skill. Probably one of the closest things to rust and on CS you can constantly be fighting people and getting better.

Actually I'd argue people who don't have *consistently* good aim are aimbotting. There's a lot of people who will aimbot a group of people, get called out and admins will start ghosting them, but due to the nature and behavior of ghosting (footsteps, nametag visible) and the fact that they can't check any kind of 'log', a lot of the more clever(as if any of them are really clever) aimbotters are turning it off after they clear a group and get their loot. Oh look I can't aim now! I must not be doing anything wrong!

Get better mouse maybe, not sure what your using, maybe a better pad. I know since i got my deathadder my aim has deff increased a good amount. I almost feel like feinter sometimes. Turn off your pointer precision on your mouse through windows. Then go to this site [url]http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html[/url] and dl this file to fix the pointer precision in windows, because windows like to turn it on during full screen/games i believe.

Get a deathadder, learn the basics of CS:GO, and spend time learning guns in that game. Play some other shooters while you're at it and you'll eventually get the hang of aiming fairly easily. It takes practice. There's no one single thing that can make you instantly good at shooting.

If you can hit targets in Red Orchestra decently, then everything else is child's play. Use the iron sights whenever possible... Trying to train on other games that only have crosshairs and hip shooting won't help you much at all. And with the free aim in Rust (weapon moves independent from the centre of the screen) hip firing is next to useless except in close range..... Much like in RO2.

[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;43585437]I don't get what you want. A reflex game? Rust isn't made to be a common FPS. And mouse drivers are often delivered with your mouse (I'm not talking about native mouse drivers). Thats nothing bad. Myself don't use mouse drivers from Logitech. It makes my aim worse. But some people get a better mouse aim with their drivers. I dunno the model you have but it could be worth a try.[/QUOTE] I think he wants a practice mode/sandbox type of deal where he can practice with everything

Always aim for the chest and fire in bursts. This allows you to achieve more hits as it's a larger target and the vertical recoil will result in some head shots. When you become more accustomed to the recoil you can adjust your aim as you wish. Aiming in rust is pretty easy; games like BF3 can help if you are new to recoil.

[QUOTE=Wyvyrias;43585437]I don't get what you want. A reflex game? Rust isn't made to be a common FPS. And mouse drivers are often delivered with your mouse (I'm not talking about native mouse drivers). Thats nothing bad. Myself don't use mouse drivers from Logitech. It makes my aim worse. But some people get a better mouse aim with their drivers. I dunno the model you have but it could be worth a try.[/QUOTE] Goddammit, he wants to know if there is any reflex game where he can improve his reflexes so he can use that knowledge in rust gunfights.

[QUOTE=Ganzoki;43593284]Goddammit, he wants to know if there is any reflex game where he can improve his reflexes so he can use that knowledge in rust gunfights.[/QUOTE] Calm down. I just replied how I understand his question. But during this state I would say he can practise with CSS or even better: GMod TTT ( Trouble in Terrorist Town). That's pretty similar and you also have a lot of paranoia there. :)

Pull down your mouse when spraying. Pretty basic fps tactic but has not been said yet surprisingly.

[QUOTE=kirbies;43594387]Pull down your mouse when spraying. Pretty basic fps tactic but has not been said yet surprisingly.[/QUOTE] You do not spray on Rust.

[QUOTE=zrtec1;43585215]I usually go on pve servers to practice my aim on zombies, but I really can't line up my shots a lot due to their buggy head movements or i'm just that bad. Edit: In player encounters I usually die first because they get the headshot on me before I do, wondering if there are any programs/games that improve reflex time or aiming.[/QUOTE] only go for headshots if you have the element of surprise, if not then go for the centre torso cos your a lot more likely to hit that then you are to hit their head. If you have a lot of ammo then practice controlling your weapons recoil by seeing how much you can spam the gun and still keep the bullets in a reasonable grouping. Also go into the control panel>mouse and check that 'enhance pointer precision' is turned off because that can really fuck with your accuracy in shooter games [editline]20th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=BlackRain;43595963]You do not spray on Rust.[/QUOTE] ^ this, all the guns have pretty hefty recoil so trigger discipline is a must if you want to hit anything more than 5-10 metres away

Play on a deathmatch server. There are a few, including a VLC deathmatch server, and I run a deathmatch server that normally has 5-10 people on it. On those servers you get free sleeping bags full kev and m4s in your inventory when you /gear. Play for 10-12 hours a week on DM servers and your aim will be really good. I was in a gun fight where I full auto'd all 24 bullets of my m4 silenced and killed 4 people. Try silencer to control recoil. Yes, it does reduce damage by 35%, but the spray control is way better. I carry two m4's, a silenced and unsilenced, silenced for spray, unsilenced for medium/long range head tapping. [editline]19th January 2014[/editline] Oh, also use an iron sight for close range, the recoil control is much easier.