• Pillars + Barricades = easy raid ? No patched ?
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I'm tired... [T]http://i.imgur.com/Ng8dilD.jpg[/T]
Ahahahaha If I found this outside my base I'd just clap
This is crazy bullshit that blows my mind in which it hasn't been fixed, it's been there for MONTHS
agree, they should remove barricades to prevent that and prevent people to build suicide bases, barricades are a game breaker right now
Don't build a huge tower that attracts everyone's attention. No one can raid a base that they don't know is there, this isn't game breaking at all people just use really bad strategy.
build in a place where you can't build any extra foundations :)
Yeah this is really rubbish having all your hard work killed off by people building like that... I've had bases hidden far far away but someday someone will find it and get in this way.
You can counter people building up like this..
It's what I tough. Pillar are not really usefull. But I got two trick to fight the ladders. The first one is secret and the second one is another way to build a house and it require at lot of ressouce compare to my most efficient build.
[QUOTE=JimmyCrack;44196488]build in a place where you can't build any extra foundations :)[/QUOTE] :rock: Build in a place where you want (min 7x7), use the build I use and let them try to get in without having to go through all the doors you pleased to build for them. :rock:
[QUOTE]Pillar are not really usefull. [/QUOTE] yep, pillar is not useful, but pillarS are.. stop bitching about baricades ans they are "only" way to raid some bases without spending 50+ c4s.. and as there is many servers with remover, ppl exploit that and isolate loot room with ceelings so you cannot access through doors.. so there's only so little you can do.. base should!! be raidable.. and even more easy to raid than now.. i'm getting tired of people playing so scared and never leave their homes.. there's no fun in that..
[QUOTE=Sievers808;44196039]Don't build a huge tower that attracts everyone's attention. No one can raid a base that they don't know is there, this isn't game breaking at all people just use really bad strategy.[/QUOTE] It's an exploit. Period.
[QUOTE=Kudaaaa;44201862]base should!! be raidable.. and even more easy to raid than now..[/QUOTE] If it gets any easier to steal people stuff...you won't have any stuff to steal because no one will play. The game is already way to easy on raiders and way to hard on base builders. The only answer right now is to build something massive in size so people don't feel like wasting time.
just put down platforms and pillars around your base to stop other people building......
[QUOTE=T1nmaN;44201943]just put down platforms and pillars around your base to stop other people building......[/QUOTE] This is only a workaround. It doesn't change the fact that barrier + pillar is an exploit.
[QUOTE=almosttactful;44201924]If it gets any easier to steal people stuff...you won't have any stuff to steal because no one will play. The game is already way to easy on raiders and way to hard on base builders. The only answer right now is to build something massive in size so people don't feel like wasting time.[/QUOTE] man, that's so not true.. and you would know that if you play the game for xxx hours.. it's so much easier to build safe house than to gather like 50 c4s.. i can only imagine you never went to farm next valley for animals, and farming fkng sulfur.. i suppose you really don't have idea how much work is needed to gather let's say 20 c4s.. huuge work, and that's for group of 5+ ppl.. if you play alone or with friends, than it's 10 times harder.. and make a house in which raider would need more than 20 c4 is so easy and quick.. maybe little longer now because of less wood around, but still, super easy.. [QUOTE]If it gets any easier to steal people stuff...you won't have any stuff to steal because no one will play.[/QUOTE] oh really? lol.. and players are leaving servers because there are too many big houses which are too hard to raid.. just.. don't write posts without your own opinion.. this copy pasting same "opinions" is getting too boring.. it's equal as trolling for me.. come on ppl, stop writing same old generic shit stuff, while you don't even play the game.. your input means nothing, you have wrong idea about the game and gameplay.. if you played game enough you would realize how little sense you make..
Why not just use a roof.
This is an exploit that should be fixed. Why? Because barricades are not supposed to work like that. Simple.
[QUOTE=Danifer;44202579]Why not just use a roof.[/QUOTE] Generally keep the better loot in the higher floors because theoretically with no exploits somebody would have to C4 ever lower door to get up. The issue is not that they are jumping in, but circumventing 4-5 floors worth of legitimate security.
[QUOTE=Warm;44201911]It's an exploit. Period.[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that it's an exploit, just like suicide bases, imo. I'm just saying... for now your best bet is probably to just not build a towering mansion that's just screaming to get raided lol.
This really kills the game for me, It's WAY to easy to raid right now.
I would LOVE to see a dev at least comment about whether or not this is going to be patched. Is this on the Trello at all?
[QUOTE=Kudaaaa;44202369]man, that's so not true.. and you would know that if you play the game for xxx hours.. it's so much easier to build safe house than to gather like 50 c4s.. i can only imagine you never went to farm next valley for animals, and farming fkng sulfur.. i suppose you really don't have idea how much work is needed to gather let's say 20 c4s.. huuge work, and that's for group of 5+ ppl.. if you play alone or with friends, than it's 10 times harder.. and make a house in which raider would need more than 20 c4 is so easy and quick.. maybe little longer now because of less wood around, but still, super easy.. oh really? lol.. and players are leaving servers because there are too many big houses which are too hard to raid.. just.. don't write posts without your own opinion.. this copy pasting same "opinions" is getting too boring.. it's equal as trolling for me.. come on ppl, stop writing same old generic shit stuff, while you don't even play the game.. your input means nothing, you have wrong idea about the game and gameplay.. if you played game enough you would realize how little sense you make..[/QUOTE] All I see here is you saying..."I pillar raid and glitch the system so please don't fix it."
yeah, fix this shit, plz.
[QUOTE=almosttactful;44201924]If it gets any easier to steal people stuff...you won't have any stuff to steal because no one will play. The game is already way to easy on raiders and way to hard on base builders. The only answer right now is to build something massive in size so people don't feel like wasting time.[/QUOTE] So what happens when this exploit is taken away and house ownership and traps/other base defense strategies are implemented. All us raiders have to do no is collect a million c4 to hopefully find some loot. This makes it easier to bypass using up to 10 c4 just to find the stairs to the 2nd floor of some miraculous tower. What's the point? The whole point of the game is to survive. Either build safe base designs and account for any points of entry or try to break into someone else's house to further your own progress. It's not THAT easy to get people's stuff unless you're talking about some rinky dink thing against a group of people who gather non-stop. What's the point of the game if it becomes so hard to raid that everyone can just horde their shit and never have to worry about losing anything? This is a creative way of raiding, you want people to start bitching when there are creative ways of defending?
Bases should be raidable, We all agree on that. It is a big part of the fun of this game. Both, defending yourself and going offensive. That being said. It is not fun when people use game mechanics to exploit the system. The game needs to be fair, unexploitable, and take reasonable amount of effort to raid or defend raid. A game like that would be mega fun. All those who use the exploits, like suicide bases and barricade ladders, superman box jump, or spike wall box stacking........ a big two fist pump in your face .l.. ..l. :pwn: You are a stinky lousy cheater
Since this requires glitching the pillar through the barricade, I think it's an exploit. But there should be ways to prevent it, if you've already built pillars up to your roof.
if you have the time to make a massive base but your to lazy to make sure you have pillars all around your base in every slot available..... then its your fault to be honest. from your screenshot you have not done alot to secure your base. Try having a few foundations around the outside of your tower and have the middle pillar in that foundation to be higher than your base, and make sure the other pillars on that foundation is placed atleast 3 or 4 stories high then you will not have this problem. they wont be able to stair up. The more effort you put into making your base as hard as possible to be raided the more chance you will keep your stuff. At the moment where there is not alot of base defences this is the only way to protect your base. Try also a over hanging roof a few floors up. just prevents people getting up. at the moment its the only defence and you should consider making these defences a priority before thinking bout making ur base bigger And like a person said earlier its not all about this size. If you have a massive base you will draw alot of attention to yourself. its easy to spot from a distance. Some of the best bases i have had and have not been raided are 1 foundation bases hidden in the mountains. there are spots all over the map which make it difficult for people to find and will only find it if they look very carefully.
[QUOTE=reynolds232;44203763]So what happens when this exploit is taken away and house ownership and traps/other base defense strategies are implemented. All us raiders have to do no is collect a million c4 to hopefully find some loot. This makes it easier to bypass using up to 10 c4 just to find the stairs to the 2nd floor of some miraculous tower. What's the point? The whole point of the game is to survive. Either build safe base designs and account for any points of entry or try to break into someone else's house to further your own progress. It's not THAT easy to get people's stuff unless you're talking about some rinky dink thing against a group of people who gather non-stop. What's the point of the game if it becomes so hard to raid that everyone can just horde their shit and never have to worry about losing anything? This is a creative way of raiding, you want people to start bitching when there are creative ways of defending?[/QUOTE] lol...people are always to shallow and lack the foresight to think of game balance...if I have better base defenses then maybe...JUUUUSST maybe the devs will give you better tools to raid with. Ever think of that? Right now, unless you build some massive structure, you're eff'd against raiders. And right now, unless you build a very wide and deep structure you're still eff'd because they can do this pillar bullshit. Personally I said screw it and built a 5X5X7 that I'm still adding onto, no one has messed with it yet because it'll take to much time to figure out where my stuff is.
[QUOTE=KG Hector;44211924]if you have the time to make a massive base but your to lazy to make sure you have pillars all around your base in every slot available..... then its your fault to be honest. from your screenshot you have not done alot to secure your base. Try having a few foundations around the outside of your tower and have the middle pillar in that foundation to be higher than your base, and make sure the other pillars on that foundation is placed atleast 3 or 4 stories high then you will not have this problem. they wont be able to stair up. The more effort you put into making your base as hard as possible to be raided the more chance you will keep your stuff. At the moment where there is not alot of base defences this is the only way to protect your base. Try also a over hanging roof a few floors up. just prevents people getting up. at the moment its the only defence and you should consider making these defences a priority before thinking bout making ur base bigger And like a person said earlier its not all about this size. If you have a massive base you will draw alot of attention to yourself. its easy to spot from a distance. Some of the best bases i have had and have not been raided are 1 foundation bases hidden in the mountains. there are spots all over the map which make it difficult for people to find and will only find it if they look very carefully.[/QUOTE] The point is that we shouldn't have to defend against this exploit in the first place.
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