New faster decay destroys water-bases! Simple suggestion

[TKay]

Hey,

My buddy has built a water base a few days ago. He was able to upgrade the foundations (which lie underwater).
He can however not repair the foundation as you can not use the normal left-click option with the hammer tool.
He has put a sh*tload of work into it and if this continues he will lose it in a few days due to the new decay rate which is going waaay too fast.

I simply suggest to make it possible to use the left-click option for the hammer underwater.
This would not change anything else other than the possibility to repair your building parts underwater.

[Malexion]

Or you could just add a repair option to the right click dial, in the end that will probably be easier than diagnosing the issues underwater.

It would also let you repair those hard to reach foundations.

[TKay]

Yea, but what would the left click do then? And having repair 2 times just because of water... :/

[itisjuly]

Good, we don't need water bases.

[TKay]

I've seen a diving suit on trello..that could solve it too.
Also it could (maybe) make it possible to shoot underwater (later for fish, sharks and whatnot).

[mrknifey]

[QUOTE=TKay;48011381]I've seen a diving suit on trello..that could solve it too.
Also it could (maybe) make it possible to shoot underwater (later for fish, sharks and whatnot).[/QUOTE]

personally i want to be able to do almost anything underwater. slow down melee attacks, have certain guns not fire when submerged, or misfire and take dp damage. things like bows/crossbows would still work underwater due to how they work. disable eating underwater. fires don't work underwater. really simple stuff, but i'd love to be able to raid someones water base from in the water. or under it lol.

[Tuks]

no weapon should shot while submerged... whats the point, your bullet goes 2 meters away and thats it..
no mele atacks should be posible under water.. have you EVER tried swinging anything under water?
building underwater is just a NO NO.. and decay is doing that exactly.. wich is good

building underwater should be limited to bridges somehow..

[TKay]

[QUOTE=Tuks;48012265]no weapon should shot while submerged... whats the point, your bullet goes 2 meters away and thats it..
no mele atacks should be posible under water.. have you EVER tried swinging anything under water?
building underwater is just a NO NO.. and decay is doing that exactly.. wich is good

building underwater should be limited to bridges somehow..[/QUOTE]

I was talking about the foundations which your lovely bridges need too...

[itisjuly]

[QUOTE=Tuks;48012265]no weapon should shot while submerged... whats the point, your bullet goes 2 meters away and thats it..
no mele atacks should be posible under water.. have you EVER tried swinging anything under water?
building underwater is just a NO NO.. and decay is doing that exactly.. wich is good

building underwater should be limited to bridges somehow..[/QUOTE]
A lot of weapons can fire effectively under water. As long as you use closed shell bullets, they should have no problem firing if the hammer can hit them. And they are more than capable of killing.
Melee should be very much possible. While swinging is not effective, thrusting/stabbing works very well.
Not to mention with underwater expansion, harpoons can be added.

[mrknifey]

[QUOTE=Tuks;48012265]
no mele atacks should be posible under water.. have you EVER tried swinging anything under water?[/QUOTE]

yep, used to love practicing taekwondo in the pool; things just move slower because of the drag in the water. the more aerodynamically shaped the weapon, the less drag affecting it. so things like a spear thrust or a blade will move pretty easily through the water.

bows/harpoons have been used for centuries to fish. arrows can pass through water the same way a spear can, regardless of the reduction in range and power.

as for building underwater, i have no issues with it. just have increased decay, and the risk of drowning.

[Tuks]

i cant believe the BS i have to read in this forums this days..

so you telling me you can throw a spear underwater.. and do dmg to a human being..
harpoons guns have INCREDIBLE strength and they shot extremely short distances for killing power.. like 3-5 meters and that's it.

melee underwater.. great, now we just believing in fairy tales .. swinging anything underwater is just not possible!!

building anything underwater without specialized equipment like scuba gear or a heavy diving suit.. not possible.

now, if they introduce some way to put pillars right on the base of a river/shore.. that's another thing, because that doesn't require heavy equipment to accomplish.

[mrknifey]

[QUOTE=Tuks;48016458]i cant believe the BS i have to read in this forums this days..

so you telling me you can throw a spear underwater.. and do dmg to a human being..
harpoons guns have INCREDIBLE strength and they shot extremely short distances for killing power.. like 3-5 meters and that's it.

melee underwater.. great, now we just believing in fairy tales .. swinging anything underwater is just not possible!!

building anything underwater without specialized equipment like scuba gear or a heavy diving suit.. not possible.

now, if they introduce some way to put pillars right on the base of a river/shore.. that's another thing, because that doesn't require heavy equipment to accomplish.[/QUOTE]

you keep beleiving that.

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[Outback]

[QUOTE=Tuks;48016458]i cant believe the BS i have to read in this forums this days..

so you telling me you can throw a spear underwater.. and do dmg to a human being..
harpoons guns have INCREDIBLE strength and they shot extremely short distances for killing power.. like 3-5 meters and that's it.

melee underwater.. great, now we just believing in fairy tales .. swinging anything underwater is just not possible!!

building anything underwater without specialized equipment like scuba gear or a heavy diving suit.. not possible.

now, if they introduce some way to put pillars right on the base of a river/shore.. that's another thing, because that doesn't require heavy equipment to accomplish.[/QUOTE]

Somebody hasn't heard of things like spear fishing.

I personally like the idea of water bases; if you had to attack or defend them, they would require vastly different resources and knowledge as opposed to traditional land bases. You'd need to be good at completely different combat and bring different gear. Maybe even vehicles or turrets are eventually included, introduce things like torpedos as well.

[RageKwit]

[QUOTE=Tuks;48016458]i cant believe the BS i have to read in this forums this days..

so you telling me you can throw a spear underwater.. and do dmg to a human being..
harpoons guns have INCREDIBLE strength and they shot extremely short distances for killing power.. like 3-5 meters and that's it.

melee underwater.. great, now we just believing in fairy tales .. swinging anything underwater is just not possible!!

building anything underwater without specialized equipment like scuba gear or a heavy diving suit.. not possible.

now, if they introduce some way to put pillars right on the base of a river/shore.. that's another thing, because that doesn't require heavy equipment to accomplish.[/QUOTE]

But your'e fine with making a WWII submachine gun out of bits of melted ore and carrying 3 quarries in your pocket