The title says it all. I wanna make a movie, put it on DVDs, and sell it to my friends. Can I do that?
War of the Servers.
Huh?
[url]http://litfusefilms.com/movies/waroftheservers/[/url]
They sold DVDs for a few bucks I believe.
But, my question is do I have to ask Garry special permission.
Why would you make a movie and sell it?
It probably wouldn't be worth it unless you're a master with making animations and special effects and what not.
I can at least try, gerbils! Isn't that all that matters?
[QUOTE=rosar098;18498697]I can at least try, gerbils! Isn't that all that matters?[/QUOTE]
You're right.
You can try.
[QUOTE=gerbils_alt_2;18498713]You're right.
You can try.[/QUOTE]
But that's not all that matters. :eng101:
Yes it is, Nori the exskimoat
[QUOTE=Kidd;18498647][url]http://litfusefilms.com/movies/waroftheservers/[/url]
They sold DVDs for a few bucks I believe.[/QUOTE]
The fee's were to cover postage, they can't make profit of it seeing as all content is Valve content.
Any machinima made with Garry's mod can be on a non-commercial basis only unless you get permission from Valve. So yes you can make DVD's, but you can't sell them.
You can't sell it legally, no.
Making your friends pay is a bit heartless isn't it?
If your just selling moves your fine considering you bought the game and that's ending the story their...
Logically, anything you make on Garry's Mod (excluding machinima) belongs to Newman.
The engine is Valve's, odds are the props and resources are Valve's, and the mod is Garry's. No profit for you.
[QUOTE=Teddi Orange;18499617]The fee's were to cover postage, they can't make profit of it seeing as all content is Valve content.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.
Let me straighten things up. Most everthing is Valve's and Garry Newman made the mod. You would need Garry's and Valve's permission first and most likely they would want a cut of the cash.
im not sure but i would consult garry first :_
hmm, what if evry texture,map,addon,guns,npcs,props etc were all created by you? hmmmmmmmm
Still using Valves engine and systems.
Valve's permission, you need it to sell stuff made with Source engine.
I remember going to a store and seeing a Sims2 video being sold on the shelves, it used the characters and content, but was third party, and I doubt EA gave them permission, but it was at GameStop. I also remember when I used to do Lionhead Movies, they said we were not authorized to sell copies of it, because it was their content. I also remember Red VS Blue at one time starting out third party, but then if I recall correctly, later they were allowed to make profit off of it or something. Now as for Valve Software, and DVD's, you ever see this? Notice the almost 50 dollar price, notice the run time, notice whose on it, notice whose in it, that being Ross Scott is a voice in the film, and notice what engine is used?
[img]http://s40718.gridserver.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Source_Machinima_49a8340a64659.png[/img]
View final film here:
[url]http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1863713561/[/url]
Source:[url]http://www.noesisinteractive.com/training-modules-3.html[/url]
While I don't see Valve's name on the cover, I am pretty sure that was only possible with Valve's permission.
However, there is a legal loop hole. Remember how South Park made an episode that used World of Warcraft? They showed in game footage, and that episode was on the seasonal DVD, which they sold, but they did not fully base the episode in World of Warcraft. It was about them playing the game. So you would have to somehow start your production with real footage, the story being about something else, and not technically base it on in game, so the character is playing a Valve game or something, and your just showing what the person is doing, and jump to what is on screen. This way, you did not make a movie circled around Valve's content, but a movie about something else that only showed in game footage. The movie could not end with in game but with the real footage. But coming up with a story to do that would be impossible. How about a guy that is too much enthralled playing Valve's Half-Life games, he forgets about his own real life! Basically you do not credit Valve's content as your own. Parodies in general seem to be a way around the law as shows such as South Park, Family Guy, and SNL use copyrighted material in show and make fun of it, but that does not stop their DVD sales, they still get away with it.
[QUOTE=npx190;18532512]You ever see this DVD? Notice the price, notice the run time, notice whose on it, and notice what engine is used?
[img]http://s40718.gridserver.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Source_Machinima_49a8340a64659.png[/img]
The final film here:
[url]http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1863713561/[/url]
Source:[url]http://www.noesisinteractive.com/training-modules-3.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That's not a real machninima though, that's a tutorial video from Noesis, who have a affiliation with Valve giving them the rights to sell said videos. They make the training videos for XSI Mod Tool for Valve too.
[QUOTE=npx190;18532512]I remember going to a store and seeing a Sims2 video being sold on the shelves, it used the characters and content, but was third party, and I doubt EA gave them permission, but it was at GameStop. I also remember when I used to do Lionhead Movies, they said we were not authorized to sell copies of it, because it was their content. I also remember Red VS Blue at one time starting out third party, but then if I recall correctly, later they were allowed to make profit off of it or something. Now as for Valve Software, and DVD's, you ever see this? Notice the almost 50 dollar price, notice the run time, notice whose on it, notice whose in it, that being Ross Scott is a voice in the film, and notice what engine is used?
[img]http://s40718.gridserver.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Source_Machinima_49a8340a64659.png[/img]
View final film here:
[url]http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1863713561/[/url]
Source:[url]http://www.noesisinteractive.com/training-modules-3.html[/url]
While I don't see Valve's name on the cover, I am pretty sure that was only possible with Valve's permission.
However, there is a legal loop hole. Remember how South Park made an episode that used World of Warcraft? They showed in game footage, and that episode was on the seasonal DVD, which they sold, but they did not fully base the episode in World of Warcraft. It was about them playing the game. So you would have to somehow start your production with real footage, the story being about something else, and not technically base it on in game, so the character is playing a Valve game or something, and your just showing what the person is doing, and jump to what is on screen. This way, you did not make a movie circled around Valve's content, but a movie about something else that only showed in game footage. The movie could not end with in game but with the real footage. But coming up with a story to do that would be impossible. How about a guy that is too much enthralled playing Valve's Half-Life games, he forgets about his own real life! Basically you do not credit Valve's content as your own. Parodies in general seem to be a way around the law as shows such as South Park, Family Guy, and SNL use copyrighted material in show and make fun of it, but that does not stop their DVD sales, they still get away with it.[/QUOTE]
Funny how the animation in that fucking sucks. Yet now Ross Scott is really good at that stuff.
npx, I don't think that's what he had in mind.
And as for RvB, Roosterteeth are great friends with Bungie and Microsoft. They even got to be voice actors in Halo 3 for christ's sake.
[QUOTE=npx190;18532512]IHowever, there is a legal loop hole. Remember how South Park made an episode that used World of Warcraft? They showed in game footage, and that episode was on the seasonal DVD, which they sold, but they did not fully base the episode in World of Warcraft. It was about them playing the game.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://kr.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/press/pressreleases.html?061002[/url]
Blizzard worked with South Park in that particular episode.
[QUOTE=npx190;18532512]I remember going to a store and seeing a Sims2 video being sold on the shelves, it used the characters and content, but was third party, and I doubt EA gave them permission, but it was at GameStop. I also remember when I used to do Lionhead Movies, they said we were not authorized to sell copies of it, because it was their content. I also remember Red VS Blue at one time starting out third party, but then if I recall correctly, later they were allowed to make profit off of it or something. Now as for Valve Software, and DVD's, you ever see this? Notice the almost 50 dollar price, notice the run time, notice whose on it, notice whose in it, that being Ross Scott is a voice in the film, and notice what engine is used?
[img]http://s40718.gridserver.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Source_Machinima_49a8340a64659.png[/img]
View final film here:
[url]http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1863713561/[/url]
Source:[url]http://www.noesisinteractive.com/training-modules-3.html[/url]
While I don't see Valve's name on the cover, I am pretty sure that was only possible with Valve's permission.
However, there is a legal loop hole. Remember how South Park made an episode that used World of Warcraft? They showed in game footage, and that episode was on the seasonal DVD, which they sold, but they did not fully base the episode in World of Warcraft. It was about them playing the game. So you would have to somehow start your production with real footage, the story being about something else, and not technically base it on in game, so the character is playing a Valve game or something, and your just showing what the person is doing, and jump to what is on screen. This way, you did not make a movie circled around Valve's content, but a movie about something else that only showed in game footage. The movie could not end with in game but with the real footage. But coming up with a story to do that would be impossible. How about a guy that is too much enthralled playing Valve's Half-Life games, he forgets about his own real life! Basically you do not credit Valve's content as your own. Parodies in general seem to be a way around the law as shows such as South Park, Family Guy, and SNL use copyrighted material in show and make fun of it, but that does not stop their DVD sales, they still get away with it.[/QUOTE]
Don't fuck with Ross Scott. He did Freeman's mind.
Garrysmod is not copyright, there is no lilte c or lilte r.
(c = copy right, r = registered trade mark)
So, i guess you can make a movie and sell it, but making a dvd for your friends with a copy right is not violating the law, you can make dvd called "coca-cola" if you want too, but just for your friends and parents and what ever,
Good luck.
[QUOTE=note-pad;18543093]Garrysmod is not copyright, there is no lilte c or lilte r.
(c = copy right, r = registered trade mark)
So, i guess you can make a movie and sell it, but making a dvd for your friends with a copy right is not violating the law, you can make dvd called "coca-cola" if you want too, but just for your friends and parents and what ever,
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Copyright is automatically assigned (country dependant) to the creators of who create digital content. Be it coding or model design etc, copyright is automatically established to the creator.
And as to the "Make love not Warcraft" episode of SP, SP approached Blizzard, asked if they could, and blizzard gave them permission (and even assistance) to make the episode.
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