Phx 3 and Wiremod should be build in garry's mod - Garry's Mod

I think that phx 3 and wiremod should be build in garry's mod. It would be kind of nice because you wouldn't have to use SVN or any stuff like that. Also it would be great for people who don't know how to use SVN. Edit: Damn i posted in the wrong section.

meh, the only people who would really need it are people who are smart enough to use svn

[QUOTE=Gravy;19457082]meh, the only people who would really need it are people who are smart enough to use svn[/QUOTE] Yeah seriously. Wire Mod also has things like Expressions, where it is easy to make things like buttons that make you crash or unbind all your keys. And PHX is very big for people with lower end computers.

[QUOTE=ChocolateLive;19459893]Yeah seriously. Wire Mod also has things like Expressions, where it is easy to make things like buttons that make you crash or unbind all your keys. And PHX is very big for people with lower end computers.[/QUOTE] Do you really know anything about E2?

[QUOTE=ChocolateLive;19459893]Yeah seriously.[B] Wire Mod also has things like Expressions, where it is easy to make things like buttons that make you crash or unbind all your keys. [/B]And PHX is very big for people with lower end computers.[/QUOTE] No it can't.

Wiremod is extremely bloated, the only thing I can see being official is linking seats with WASD controls.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;19462873][B]Wiremod is extremely bloated[/B], the only thing I can see being official is linking seats with WASD controls.[/QUOTE] You have so much evidence backing this up it's amazing.

It's quite heavy on a server, and some (ignorant) people hate them because they're too dumb to use it. Some servers deliberately exclude them (ie rp servers) because they screw up the gameplay on that server.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19462998]You have so much evidence backing this up it's amazing.[/QUOTE] Can't be bothered to list them at the moment, but for starters, the huge list of button models.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;19463071]Can't be bothered to list them at the moment, but for starters, the huge list of button models.[/QUOTE] oh no lots of button models! whatever will we do if there are an extra 60 models!

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19462816]No it can't.[/QUOTE] Oh ho ho, trust me. [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDb09vYYYRo[/MEDIA]

[QUOTE=ChocolateLive;19464474]Oh ho ho, trust me. [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDb09vYYYRo[/MEDIA][/QUOTE] Lets take a step back. First off, 0:43. wire_expression2_concmd must be on for this to work. Hmmm... it's disabled by default, so, unless admins went and turned it on, it won't work. Secondly, it runs the command on the person who spawned the expression, not anyone you want. So someone would have to trick you into spawning that expression. Thirdly, and the final nail in the cross. [quote]"con_enable","sv_cheats","_restart","exec","condump","[B]bind[/B]","[B]BindToggle[/B]","alias","ent_fire","ent_setname","sensitivity","name","r_aspect","[B]quit[/B]","[B]exit[/B]","lua_run","lua_run_cl","lua_open","lua_cookieclear","lua_showerrors_cl","lua_showerrors_sv", "lua_openscript","lua_openscript_cl","lua_redownload","sent_reload","sent_reload_cl","swep_reload","swep_reload_cl","gamemode_reload","gamemode_reload_cl","con_logfile","clear","rcon_password","test_RandomChance"[/quote] That's a list of all the blocked console commands that cannot be run by Lua, since E2 does run on Lua, it cannot unbind your keys, or exit/crash your game. Stop being xenophobic, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's the work of Satan.

Wire is badly scripted. It works, but only by a thread sometimes, so no, it shouldn't be auto included. I don't want an entire three minutes added to my startup time just because some people use wire. Same with PHX. I don't use PHX. Yes, I do build and use certain other tools (such as I would agree with weight being added).

[QUOTE=ProWaffle;19463070]It's quite heavy on a server, and some (ignorant) people hate them because they're too dumb to use it. Some servers deliberately exclude them (ie rp servers) because they screw up the gameplay on that server.[/QUOTE] I don't like wire because it overcomplecates things, don't generalize people because you have an opinion that they don't.

[QUOTE=Spacewolf;19469614]I don't like wire because it [B]overcomplecates things[/B], don't generalize people because you have an opinion that they don't.[/QUOTE] How. I can understand if you mean using all those gates makes shit complicated, but just using E2 is pretty simple, and adds a fuck ton more stuff you can do in GMod...

The only people that don't like wire/are against it are the ones who don't understand it. Learn how to use it and you won't know how you got by without it.

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They don't need to be included. We've been over this countless numbers of times. Besides anyone who can't even figure out SVN should have no interest in either Sedona as they should still be sucking ther thumb and shitting themselves it's that simple.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;19469650]How. I can understand if you mean using all those gates makes shit complicated, but just using E2 is pretty simple, and adds a fuck ton more stuff you can do in GMod...[/QUOTE] I hear about everyone using E2 and I'll admin that I don't even know what it is :) [editline]01:46PM[/editline] I donno, I just get called a noob for not building something with wire when I have just as much fun without it. I preferred when everyone just used vanilla tools and props and whatnot.

If wire was included, how would it be updated? I doubt steam would enjoy getting an update from the wire team three times per day.

I thought it was Once a Day, Thats alot of Updates, Do you spend all day LUAing?

It's not "LUAing", it's scripting. Lua is not an acronym. It's a noun, a name. I believe wiremod has a small team working on it, hence so many updates per day.

[QUOTE=ProWaffle;19463070]It's quite heavy on a server, and some (ignorant) people hate them because they're too dumb to use it. Some servers deliberately exclude them (ie rp servers) because they screw up the gameplay on that server.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah attack the Rp players :(

[QUOTE=-n3o-;19505902]Oh yeah attack the Rp players :([/QUOTE] Attack the RP players? I was merely saying that roleplaying isn't build, it's for ROLEPLAYING.

[QUOTE=LightningX151;19448372]I think that phx 3 and wiremod should be build in garry's mod. It would be kind of nice because you wouldn't have to use SVN or any stuff like that. Also it would be great for people who don't know how to use SVN. Edit: Damn i posted in the wrong section.[/QUOTE] tut tut :P eny ways wire.. umm well wire is ok but i dont really like it phx... i have no fricking idea what it is XD

[QUOTE=ProWaffle;19516401]Attack the RP players? I was merely saying that roleplaying isn't build, it's for ROLEPLAYING.[/QUOTE] But at the same time, you can't roleplay without something to roleplay with.

I actually enjoy wiremod. What is wrong with you guys? Just take a trip to the Advanced Wiring stool and the button stool, then fool around with the physics stuff. You don't have to write scripts to make fun stuff. Anyway, I think a wiremod/PHX package would be nice, it's a pain to get both in separate downloads.

Wire and PHX are both brilliant addons, but they still shouldn't be included in the download. Garry won't do it anyway, so this thread is pointless. [editline]03:44AM[/editline] I think he commented on it on his blog a while back.