I don't really like RP servers. Getting a job, getting a license to drive a car that you saved up for with your annoying job, hiding money printers and drug labs, buying and locking doors so that you can be a shutout in the virtual world too - Awful. Garbage.
There was a time when I kinda liked RP. That was before Lua was introduced to GMod. It was a bunch of people in the sandbox gamemode, building a town and being [I]creative[/I]. When Lua was first introduced, there were some small additions like handcuffs, but people didn't rely on mega-RP-management-scripts because they didn't exist yet. I've seen people have a ton of fun creating towns from scratch on gm_construct and playing it out
I think people have gone pretty crazy with the capabilities of Lua scripting. It's impressive, but it isn't helping the fun-factor. It's not creatively inspirational. Every RP server plays the same when they're all managed by some bloated script in the same way.
Does anyone still do freeform RPing where you define the system instead of a giant script doing it for you? Do you guys generally believe that RP scripts make the experience more fun? Did you even realize that you don't need any scripts to RP?
One of my reasons for starting this thread is that I've got a minor interest in maybe creating a minimalistic RP script that just handles stuff like currency (and some other stuff that I'll expand upon if I'm still interested after sleeping on it). I know RP isn't going to die so the only alternative is to make it better.
I agree, a script is not needed for roleplaying. I've been around since 05 so I know how things have changed. People just aren't as creative anymore and require scripts with massive features to roleplay, which is kind of sad.
I personally would love the idea of having an rp server with no script at all (or a very basic one). But seeing as such things are not really that popular nowadays (most oldfags have left the rp scene and 95% of the current roleplayers don't have a creative mind), we have to adapt to what Garry's Mod RP has become.
I personally don't require my servers to be popular, but at the same time I feel that I have to adapt to the new ways or die away.
If I see proof that many oldfags are still around and are willing to rp on a server with a very basic rp script, I'll set one up myself.
[B]On another note[/B]
My goal is to create a script where the player has a lot of responsibilities rather than having automated systems that does stuff for him/her. No more classes, you have to manufacture your own materials (for guns) and your own drugs etc. Everything that you do will in one way or another affect the rp for everyone else (be it financially or other).
The butterfly effect.
[QUOTE=Myrrdin;22160205]
[B]On another note[/B]
My goal is to create a script where the player has a lot of responsibilities rather than having automated systems that does stuff for him/her. No more classes, you have to manufacture your own materials (for guns) and your own drugs etc. Everything that you do will in one way or another affect the rp for everyone else (be it financially or other).
The butterfly effect.[/QUOTE]
That's an awesome idea. It would kind of simulate an economy - people would need to obtain resources from each other in order to manufacture goods, and when the resources are low, the prices are driven up & vice-versa. I could see it being hugely addictive.
What I've been thinking over is a more noobish/violent revolution RP where there would be rebels (but not a publicly visible rebel team) trying to overthrow a government by assassinating the mayor/president/king/supreme-leader (which would then flip the sides, basically). There would be plenty of safeguards to prevent mingebagism, and run-and-gunners would face impossible odds. Being a rebel would be a huge inconvenience and wouldn't be fun without a well-orchestrated plan.
but that would be an extension upon a really lightweight RP framework of sorts
Maybe a "survival" script like Stranded with an economy system and roleplay? That would be nice.
[QUOTE=AlienCreature;22160559]Maybe a "survival" script like Stranded with an economy system and roleplay? That would be nice.[/QUOTE]
kind of reminds me of an idea I've had in the back of my mind for a while involving player-formed factions/tribes, where you form settlements and either handle diplomacy/trade with other tribes or go to war to conquer their settlements
I'm starting to realize how much unfulfilled potential there is in RPing. I wish I had all the time in the world to code stuff
I agree with OP. Economy would be cool.
[QUOTE=Metanoia;22160390]That's an awesome idea. It would kind of simulate an economy - people would need to obtain resources from each other in order to manufacture goods, and when the resources are low, the prices are driven up & vice-versa. I could see it being hugely addictive.
What I've been thinking over is a more noobish/violent revolution RP where there would be rebels (but not a publicly visible rebel team) trying to overthrow a government by assassinating the mayor/president/king/supreme-leader (which would then flip the sides, basically). There would be plenty of safeguards to prevent mingebagism, and run-and-gunners would face impossible odds. Being a rebel would be a huge inconvenience and wouldn't be fun without a well-orchestrated plan.
but that would be an extension upon a really lightweight RP framework of sorts[/QUOTE]
Exactly, my plan is to create a server-wide economy governed by the players themselves rather than an automated system. I'm glad that you like the idea. I have yet to implement it in the script, but I'm working on it.
I like your idea, perhaps I'll host something like that as well once I have enough money. I aim to host a variety of different servers in a variety of games y'see.
You pretty much solved your own problem.
STORY! That's what servers lack, they focus too much on the script instead of writing something to do. Characters can have no goal in mind or nothing to strive for. And some servers do, but just make it too easy ruining it. Some other severs do this, but have dull stories such as the "Nukes all over the place," or "HL2 RP." There's nothing original anymore.
[QUOTE=Xeloras;22166415]STORY! That's what servers lack, they focus too much on the script instead of writing something to do. Characters can have no goal in mind or nothing to strive for. And some servers do, but just make it too easy ruining it. Some other severs do this, but have dull stories such as the "Nukes all over the place," or "HL2 RP." There's nothing original anymore.[/QUOTE]
I tend to focus a lot on the storyline myself, but I know that a lot of servers focus on the script instead.
Hopefully this will change in the future.
Pfft, creativeness in roleplay, unless you'd notice, but in mainstream society, originality is another word for "yet another pretentious bucket of bullshit", if you want decent roleplaying, go back twenty years and assassinate whatever moron it was that prevented the petition of a law saying "there will be no arrogant mmopricks taking over roleplaying". If you people looked for a "different idea" to save your lives, you'd all have a fucking piano dropped at yourselves faster than Capcom drops a good idea! Turns out most scrips are inflexible, bugged and failed in general, no matter what you do, it's main purpouse is to be full of shit so that a few roleplaying elitists can jizz in their cocktaildresses and kindly ask any type of creactivity to fuck off, since it shines through the gray filter that is the mindset of all roleplayers out there! Myrrin, all you ever do is go on and on about your own server, showing your ego has enough size to develop into a solar system, even though it's the same as all the other fifteen gazillion servers out there. So you added a slight "tweak", amazing, it really makes it stick out, just like the cocksketches on a public monorail car.
Here's my idea of a script: Add basic character development, an entity base for sellable weapons and other entities, a hungerbar, a sleep bar and some basic settings and tweaks, then leave it to that. Oh, wait, it's called DarkRP, the roleplaying element elitists fear since it might show that they infact suck at what they're doing since they no longer possess a pretentious cruise-control...
Scripts are just an electric-powered scooter you people use since once you're forced to walk on your own, you fall faster than a white whale running on a threadmill with stilts...
[QUOTE=Vinze;22172516]Pfft, creativeness in roleplay, unless you'd notice, but in mainstream society, originality is another word for "yet another pretentious bucket of bullshit", if you want decent roleplaying, go back twenty years and assassinate whatever moron it was that prevented the petition of a law saying "there will be no arrogant mmopricks taking over roleplaying". If you people looked for a "different idea" to save your lives, you'd all have a fucking piano dropped at yourselves faster than Capcom drops a good idea! Turns out most scrips are inflexible, bugged and failed in general, no matter what you do, it's main purpouse is to be full of shit so that a few roleplaying elitists can jizz in their cocktaildresses and kindly ask any type of creactivity to fuck off, since it shines through the gray filter that is the mindset of all roleplayers out there! [highlight]Myrrin[/highlight], all you ever do is go on and on about your own server, showing your ego has enough size to develop into a solar system, even though it's the same as all the other fifteen gazillion servers out there. So you added a slight "tweak", amazing, it really makes it stick out, just like the cocksketches on a public monorail car.
Here's my idea of a script: Add basic character development, an entity base for sellable weapons and other entities, a hungerbar, a sleep bar and some basic settings and tweaks, then leave it to that. Oh, wait, it's called DarkRP, the roleplaying element elitists fear since it might show that they infact suck at what they're doing since they no longer possess a pretentious cruise-control...
Scripts are just an electric-powered scooter you people use since once you're forced to walk on your own, you fall faster than a white whale running on a threadmill with stilts...[/QUOTE]
Of course I take the chance to advertise when I see that people are looking for something that I [B]know[/B] that I can provide, that does not make me egotistical, it makes me smart. I don't think that you know enough about my server nor the roleplay on it to say that it is like every other server around. At the moment I have only added "slight tweaks" to the script, I can agree with that. But as stated before, roleplay is not about [B]the script.[/B]
I'm sorry if I come off as egotistical when I'm actually a very caring & selfless person, it is not my intention.
[B]On another note[/b]
It's [B]Myrrdin[/b] not [highlight]Myrrin[/highlight]
I totally agree with you guys. Creative RP is legit. I remember my friend started up a Dark RP Private server where 7 of us just built shanty shacks and we rped for like 3 hours just Rping awesome scenarios. Creative RP is the way of the future.
I think Vinze went crazy.
[QUOTE=RoFLWaFFLEZZ;22178848]I think Vinze went crazy.[/QUOTE]
He does that sometimes, but I know that he does not really mean any harm.
I read his apology thread etc.
[QUOTE=Myrrdin;22177617]I'm sorry if I come off as egotistical when I'm actually a very caring & selfless person, it is not my intention.
[B]On another note[/B]
It's [B]Myrrdin[/B] not [highlight]Myrrin[/highlight][/QUOTE]
No, it's [B]OXYMORON![/B]
back in the days when roleplay was sandbox was really fun, but now nobody plays without a 10000 line script anymore :saddowns:
Sandbox with a economy system?.
Sounds cool
I could totally get into this if it was ever set up.
[QUOTE=Myrrdin;22160205]I agree, a script is not needed for roleplaying. I've been around since 05 so I know how things have changed. People just aren't as creative anymore and require scripts with massive features to roleplay, which is kind of sad.
I personally would love the idea of having an rp server with no script at all (or a very basic one). But seeing as such things are not really that popular nowadays (most oldfags have left the rp scene and 95% of the current roleplayers don't have a creative mind), we have to adapt to what Garry's Mod RP has become.
I personally don't require my servers to be popular, but at the same time I feel that I have to adapt to the new ways or die away.
If I see proof that many oldfags are still around and are willing to rp on a server with a very basic rp script, I'll set one up myself.
[B]On another note[/B]
My goal is to create a script where the player has a lot of responsibilities rather than having automated systems that does stuff for him/her. No more classes, you have to manufacture your own materials (for guns) and your own drugs etc. Everything that you do will in one way or another affect the rp for everyone else (be it financially or other).
The butterfly effect.[/QUOTE]
Say, have you seen my idea?
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=870160[/url]
In Gmod 9 we used to play on that big flatgrass map that was half water and half land. We'd build a sailing ship and go the little island out at sea and build a new-world colony there.
No scripts, LOTS of fun.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Communism;22290724]Say, have you seen my idea?
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=870160[/url][/QUOTE]
Not until now, seems fairly interesting!
[QUOTE=Vinze;22250816]No, it's [B]OXYMORON![/B][/QUOTE]
Enough with the flaming, seriously.
What you're all asking for is "SeriousRP" but it's not got a gui yet, I'm still working on it. I work hard these days, so I'm very busy but it will be finished one day.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;22362166]What you're all asking for is "SeriousRP" but it's not got a gui yet, I'm still working on it. I work hard these days, so I'm very busy but it will be finished one day.[/QUOTE]
Good luck with SeriousRP, I hope it lives up to the hype!
Stranded + GModRP = Pretty awesome
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;22362166]What you're all asking for is "SeriousRP" but it's not got a gui yet, I'm still working on it. I work hard these days, so I'm very busy but it will be finished one day.[/QUOTE]
Are you aiming to fix every single problem of Gmod RP with SeriousRP?
Well, good luck on that. I hope you succeed.
[QUOTE=esalaka;22415044]Are you aiming to fix every single problem of Gmod RP with SeriousRP?
Well, good luck on that. I hope you succeed.[/QUOTE]
Gmod RP can't be fixed, only improved. The RP scripts we have nowadays are taking steps backwards, the OP in this thread is moving things forward.
[QUOTE=JustGman;22415110]--the OP in this thread is moving things forward.[/QUOTE]
Only as much as I was when I was planning and coding my own RP mod.
[QUOTE=Myrrdin;22160205][B]On another note[/B]
My goal is to create a script where the player has a lot of responsibilities rather than having automated systems that does stuff for him/her. No more classes, you have to manufacture your own materials (for guns) and your own drugs etc. Everything that you do will in one way or another affect the rp for everyone else (be it financially or other).
The butterfly effect.[/QUOTE]
Kind of like perp, but more serious?
[QUOTE=Coffeelord;22420154]Kind of like perp, but more serious?[/QUOTE]
I've never played on PERP, so I would not know. But hopefully.
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