• Gmod.org Niceness Standards- A Load of Bull?
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What has the community to say of this? I for one think this way: On the good side, no more trolls. Then again, they weren't much of a problem anyways. The downside? No critique or criticism, or other vaguely negative comments- no more pointing out that nobody downloads crummy "Kill Breen" saves- and, with that, no more stopping the flood of crap uploads with which the site has been plagued. Oh yes- and no negative comments against this rule and its scary red text, either. Because I got blocked for speaking out against it. This is the internet, dagnabbit- I don't care how much of a troll people seem to think I am. Just look at this garbage: [IMG]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n48/Csp499/garrysmoddotorg.jpg?t=1278193658[/IMG] Above conversation was in response to a "Manhack jellyfish reskin". And now I can't even respond to this idiot; talk about a bummer. In truth, I don't think me not being able to comment is a very big deal, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about here. It's not about what this rule does- it's what it says. "Sugarcoat everything you say," it states, "and don't bother being at all constructive or critical- or else you're a [I]troll[/I] and ought to be [I]banned[/I]". Well, blocked or not, I don't think I'm going to stand for this- I think I'm entitled to leave my opinion, and no amount of red text is going to prevent me from doing so.
They could just ban certain steam accounts from posting comments.. EDIT: Though everything posted on GMod.org which is fairly decent is in other places too, so I guess it wouldn't be such a loss if anyone was banned.
[QUOTE=Dotmister;23088582]They could just ban certain steam accounts from posting comments.. EDIT: Though everything posted on GMod.org which is fairly decent is in other places too, so I guess it wouldn't be such a loss if anyone was banned.[/QUOTE] They do. That's what they did to me. And all I really did was state my disagreement with the new rule.
How can they actually ban your steam account anyway? Isn't the comment system by Disquis?
Oh right I see what you mean, yeah I think its pretty stupid not being allowed to give criticism on garrysmod.org.. Surely thats the whole point of comments? Who actually cares if someone says "I downloaded this? I think this is great?"
[QUOTE=Cheryl Cole;23088638]How can they actually ban your steam account anyway? Isn't the comment system by Disquis?[/QUOTE] Yeah, but you have to do some linking gig with your Steam account in order to log into Garrysmod.org.
[QUOTE=Csp499;23088671]Yeah, but you have to do some linking gig with your Steam account in order to log into Garrysmod.org.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, shit.
[QUOTE=Dotmister;23088657]Oh right I see what you mean, yeah I think its pretty stupid not being allowed to give criticism on garrysmod.org.. Surely thats the whole point of comments? Who actually cares if someone says "I downloaded this? I think this is great?"[/QUOTE] Yeah, I figured the comments were there to provide constructive feedback; not shower the uploader in compliments regarding how thoughtfully they positioned all the Combine soldiers guarding Dr. Breen, or how shiny the PHX tile on which some wheels were mounted looks.
yeah, have you got a link to the item you commented on?
[QUOTE=Dotmister;23088732]yeah, have you got a link to the item you commented on?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=102947[/url]
[QUOTE=Csp499;23088807][URL]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=102947[/URL][/QUOTE] God, how can anyone look at that, looks like missing textures.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;23088857]God, how can anyone look at that, looks like missing textures.[/QUOTE] Shh! Don't be a [i]TROLL![/i] You don't want to face the scary red text, do you?
[QUOTE=Csp499;23088550]What has the community to say of this? I for one think this way: On the good side, no more trolls. Then again, they weren't much of a problem anyways. The downside? No critique or criticism, or other vaguely negative comments- no more pointing out that nobody downloads crummy "Kill Breen" saves- and, with that, no more stopping the flood of crap uploads with which the site has been plagued. Oh yes- and no negative comments against this rule and its scary red text, either. Because I got blocked for speaking out against it. This is the internet, dagnabbit- I don't care how much of a troll people seem to think I am. Just look at this garbage: [IMG]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n48/Csp499/garrysmoddotorg.jpg?t=1278193658[/IMG] Above conversation was in response to a "Manhack jellyfish reskin". And now I can't even respond to this idiot; talk about a bummer. In truth, I don't think me not being able to comment is a very big deal, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about here. It's not about what this rule does- it's what it says. "Sugarcoat everything you say," it states, "and don't bother being at all constructive or critical- or else you're a [I]troll[/I] and ought to be [I]banned[/I]". Well, blocked or not, I don't think I'm going to stand for this- I think I'm entitled to leave my opinion, and no amount of red text is going to prevent me from doing so.[/QUOTE] You are very correct, this is rediculous. Internet doesn't exactly have to abide by US rights, but there is a certain unspoken standard of freedom that exists EVERYWHERE else out of simply being humane.
[QUOTE=Csp499;23088878]Shh! Don't be a [I]TROLL![/I] You don't want to face the scary red text, do you?[/QUOTE] Oh noes! *runs away*
I hate people like Warren who just call everything a troll. Pisses me off to absolutely NO end.
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;23088977]I hate people like Warren who just call everything a troll. Pisses me off to absolutely NO end.[/QUOTE] Very much agreed- a lot like furries, who think I'm a "fursecutor" because I don't like it when they flood the frontpage of DA with yiffing.
I replied saying [IMG]http://www.adamncasey.co.uk/upload/image/2387/d/o[/IMG]
If they can ban your steam acount then there doing something to do it. AKA Hacking?
[QUOTE=Dotmister;23089078]I replied saying *insert screencap here*[/QUOTE] Saw- I take it Warren won't take too kindly to it, but he can eat a dick.
I think the ban there was unjustified by far, however if this is used for the trolls and trolls only, it would be a good rule, there IS a difference between constructive critiscim and "You suck"
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;23089091]If they can ban your steam acount then there doing something to do it. AKA Hacking?[/QUOTE] They mean ban your steam account from garrysmod.org, not steam I think. [QUOTE=nekosune;23089109]I think the ban there was unjustified by far, however if this is used for the trolls and trolls only, it would be a good rule, there IS a difference between constructive critiscim and "You suck"[/QUOTE] Nope but ah well
[QUOTE=Csp499;23089102]Saw- I take it Warren won't take too kindly to it, but he can eat a dick.[/QUOTE] that kind of comment, if it does get a ban, would be stupid, but then the people who would post stupid copy pastes or "you suck lol" fully deserve said bans
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;23089091]If they can ban your steam acount then there doing something to do it. AKA Hacking?[/QUOTE] Nay- thing is on Garrysmod.org, you have to link your account there to your Steam account, so if they block your gmod.org account, it also applies to your Steam. [editline]03:25PM[/editline] [QUOTE=nekosune;23089109]I think the ban there was unjustified by far, however if this is used for the trolls and trolls only, it would be a good rule, there IS a difference between constructive critiscim and "You suck"[/QUOTE] I [i]kinda[/i] agree with that- legitimate trolls aren't that big a deal, though. Any uploader mature enough would just ignore them.
[QUOTE=Csp499;23089131]Nay- thing is on Garrysmod.org, you have to link your account there to your Steam account, so if they block your gmod.org account, it also applies to your Steam. [editline]03:25PM[/editline] I [i]kinda[/i] agree with that- legitimate trolls aren't that big a deal, though. Any uploader mature enough would just ignore them.[/QUOTE] but then you get the immature uploaders and wars start in comments, which lead to good stuff being lost
When someone gets banned on facepunch their posts aren't deleted
[QUOTE=nekosune;23089290]but then you get the immature uploaders and wars start in comments, which lead to good stuff being lost[/QUOTE] Not sure what's lost there. But immature uploaders also respond in such a way to those who are [I]not[/I] trolls and are just being critical. [QUOTE=Dotmister;23089298]When someone gets banned on facepunch their posts aren't deleted[/QUOTE] And?
[QUOTE=Csp499;23089371]Not sure what's lost there. But immature uploaders also respond in such a way to those who are [i]not[/i] trolls and are just being critical. [editline]03:36PM[/editline] And?[/QUOTE] true, I meant the things lost because they get missed amongst all the junk left between two uploaders feuding, by uploading stupid backgrounds etc
[QUOTE=Csp499;23089371]Not sure what's lost there. But immature uploaders also respond in such a way to those who are [I]not[/I] trolls and are just being critical. And?[/QUOTE] nekosune said that things would be lost by uploaders getting into arguments, implying that when people got banned their content got deleted.
[QUOTE=Dotmister;23089901]nekosune said that things would be lost by uploaders getting into arguments, implying that when people got banned their content got deleted.[/QUOTE] *indicates to the comment above yours*
[QUOTE=Balto-the-Wolf-Dog;23088885]You are very correct, this is rediculous. Internet doesn't exactly have to abide by US rights, but there is a certain unspoken standard of freedom that exists EVERYWHERE else out of simply being humane.[/QUOTE] [url]http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/[/url] --- This is nonsense. I know that you shouldn't go saying "O ROFL U SUCK N00B", but it looks like this rule will result in the post of "Well, it doesn't have a very high quality material on it" getting someone banned.
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