The term has lost it's meaning. There's no longer roleplay, there's no longer roles nor plays. The few that have tried to properly set out and roleplay like they should can not do it because they're deemed weirdos and outcasts who have no life. The ones who play the current meaning of roleplay are ostracized from general society at first anyway.
Thus, I suggest that everyone that still follows the concept of roleplay as if it means "playing with others portraying a role and character in a fictitious society, or simulation of", to simply drop the RP and roleplay monicker from whatever they do.
What would we be then, you ask? Just a community then. Not a roleplay community, not a roleplay script, not a roleplay idea but just that, communities, scripts and ideas. What would we be playing then if it's not roleplay? Well, it can go by many names, simulation, virtual life. I prefer the term "a fucking game".
DarkRP and the like can keep the RP monicker. They earned it, as they have completely turned over it's meaning, not that the word had any on the first place, and as the original separating term of "serious roleplay" then became associated with DarkRP and the like too.
I will provide the first step. For now on, my community Bliss will be just that, my script will be Tiramisu, and I will not include the word RP in a single moment on any of my server info, or forums. I extend my hand for those who want to follow my steps, and finally make a name for ourselves, those who play a thing that can't be named. I call out to TnB, SSTRP, Benevolence, HGN to do the same.
I seen less minges on servers using the nexus roleplaying gamemodes.
Its getting Quite old, good to see that (Some..) people are moving on
I think actual serious roleplay needs a new name.
[QUOTE=John Fisher;22675995]I seen less minges on servers using the nexus roleplaying gamemodes.[/QUOTE]
I've seen more. Still, the gamemode does not do anything except simplifying and limiting. Roleplay is up to the players and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I am not suggesting for a new category, a new forum, or even to not respond when you're called roleplayer. I'm saying we simply do not belong to the term anymore. You call an artist to whoever does art, irregardless if it's a sculpter or a painter, of it is abstract or modern art or whatever.
Roleplay is a name for the type of gamemode in the same way that Garry's Mod isn't actually a Mod anymore. It's just a name people use.
The quality of a server depends solely on its admins.
[QUOTE=Idi Amin;22695765]The quality of a server depends solely on its admins.[/QUOTE]
Surely the players have nothing to do with it.
We all need to put a mature people only quiz on our servers just so kids don't get in.
[QUOTE=bfking;22708694]We all need to put a mature people only quiz on our servers just so kids don't get in.[/QUOTE]
The second you had to put Serious in your servers name to justify that it's meant to be serious; that was the second Roleplay lost its full meaning.
[QUOTE=Slemo;22723523]The second you had to put Serious in your servers name to justify that it's meant to be serious; that was the second Roleplay lost its full meaning.[/QUOTE]
Then every server added 'Serious' to it's hostname and you couldn't see the actual serious servers any more.
I'm fairly sure there's more actual RP on the so-called 'casual' servers nowadays. Apart from communities like TnB, obviously.
Most of the Nexus servers are full of RP drama and etc. There is no actually serious, but fun roleplaying servers anymore. Oh, the good old times...
[QUOTE=esalaka;22725887]Then every server added 'Serious' to it's hostname and you couldn't see the actual serious servers any more.
I'm fairly sure there's more actual RP on the so-called 'casual' servers nowadays. Apart from communities like TnB, obviously.[/QUOTE]
I think it's idiotic that servers put "serious" in their name, but then again, it's partly the players fault here, the roleplay nazis often don't bother to check out a roleplay server unless it has Serious in it's name.
Right now I don't have serious in my server name, and I'm beginning to think that I would get more traffic and better players if I did go ahead and put serious in my server title. But I don't know, I'm conflicted in this matter.
RP died a long time ago, stop digging in the grave.
There used to be some really good RP servers, but there are never any admins on anymore, just abusive players and players that don't speak english or have any idea of what's going on. I want to get up a server and keep it serious, me and my friends have been thinking/working on it, but it'll most likely not happen.
To me the only roleplay is vanilla roleplay. If a server has a roleplaying script, then it's not roleplay, it's a game mode.
[QUOTE=Master_Xeon;22732829]Right now I don't have serious in my server name, and I'm beginning to think that I would get more traffic and better players if I did go ahead and put serious in my server title. But I don't know, I'm conflicted in this matter.[/QUOTE]
More traffic? Sure.
Better players? Not a chance.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;22732861]RP died a long time ago, stop digging in the grave.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I thought I was done with that discussion when I quit The Specialists Roleplay mod...
[QUOTE=Master_Xeon;22732829]I think it's idiotic that servers put "serious" in their name[/QUOTE]
Cherry's RP.
It has serious in there name, and there server is so dumb. Especially there classes.
Pet - Telletubbie or whatever they are called with Headcrab pill. Just makes the server look like it's a place for 8 year olds.
Usually the pet class in DarkRP has the model of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renamon]Renamon.[/url]
Yes, it's a digimon. I dunno why it's in there.
[QUOTE=The DooD;22733051]To me the only roleplay is vanilla roleplay. If a server has a roleplaying script, then it's not roleplay, it's a game mode.[/QUOTE]
That's a dumb thing to say. The script is not there to actually affect the game's flow adversely. If you've ever been on forum RP or chatroom RP you'd see that you will have several direct issues. First and foremost is detail, you can only elaborate detail by what was said not by what you actually see.
Second, spatial awareness. You don't have any spatial awareness if you're making up everything in your mind. While a guy might picture the room you're standing on like a suburban kid's bedroom, you might imagine it as an oriental styled room with a futon and with shoji walls. True, the setting helps you a bit, but you never really know where you are.
Third, imagination isn't universal. I have said it like a million times, you can't expect everyone to picture things the same way. While some guy pictures himself as an anime character with jet black long hair, you may imagine the guy to be a total freak that looks like a girl. It's all perception and cultural backgrounds what makes you imagine things.
And last but not least, drama. Without all those three things, colliding with someone else's view will happen VERY, VERY often. If you're not playing with friends or with moderators you will descend upon a nearly endless discussion on basically every action. I know, I have played both forum and chat based RP.
Please note that I'm not suggesting that "vanilla RP" is inferior. I'm just saying it's not better.
Acctually, i would call RolePlay something more like "CAGAOD" wich means "COPS AND GANGSTERS AND OTHER DICKHEADS"
Real roleplaying servers should be reclusive passworded communities where you have to pass a test on maturity (carried out by real people) to get the right to play. It's a desperate measure, I know. But, as it was said gazillions of times before, it's the people who make the roleplay, the players, not the script or the word "SERIOUS". Real roleplay scrip should have nothing but a wider selection of playermodels and SWEPs, otherwise it should not be different from sandbox.
[QUOTE=Yoga;22746529]Real roleplaying servers should be reclusive passworded communities where you have to pass a test on maturity (carried out by real people) to get the right to play. It's a desperate measure, I know. But, as it was said gazillions of times before, it's the people who make the roleplay, the players, not the script or the word "SERIOUS". Real roleplay scrip should have nothing but a wider selection of playermodels and SWEPs, otherwise it should not be different from sandbox.[/QUOTE]
That's an idiotic idea, and further manifests my idea. The solution is NOT keeping yourself restrained to just friends. The solution is making a system, the solution is giving people opportunity to learn, and if they don't learn, kick them out.
It's because of people who think like that, who preserve archaic and medieval tradition, that we've got ourselves into this situation where what was previously known "RP" has seriously reached a low point ( Unlike all the other times where people have said it died. ). Don't blame the playerbase for administrative incompetence.
Make communities, not clans.
I think the RP issue is all (well maybe not all, but mostly) about immersion, force the player to immerse in your game world (or get crushed) provide a vibrant and intricate world to interact in.
Peoples don't do any efforts in darkrp because it's the same old broken shit on some overused city map, you KNOW that the server admin spent hardly any time out of pasting the mod on the server.
[QUOTE=die_angel;22749781]I think the RP issue is all about immersion, force the player to immerse in your game world (or get crushed) provide a vibrant and intricate world to interact in.
Peoples don't do any efforts in darkrp because it's the same old broken shit on some overused city map, you KNOW that the server admin spent hardly any time out of pasting the mod on the server.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I find that to be the real solution to the problem. If people all see the same thing, they can have a much clearer idea of what to do and how to work out situations out of it. Dev teams need to get serious.
This is why I feel that Second Life would actually make a great RP client, if only it wasn't all filled with perverse and obscure crap.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;22748861]That's an idiotic idea, and further manifests my idea. The solution is NOT keeping yourself restrained to just friends. The solution is making a system, the solution is giving people opportunity to learn, and if they don't learn, kick them out.
It's because of people who think like that, who preserve archaic and medieval tradition, that we've got ourselves into this situation where what was previously known "RP" has seriously reached a low point ( Unlike all the other times where people have said it died. ). Don't blame the playerbase for administrative incompetence.
Make communities, not clans.[/QUOTE]
But people are stupid and have to prove the opposite.
And when I said "people" I meant administrators as well.
Also, I didn't mean that RP communities should be all closed, they should just be picky about whom to let in.
"Interactive Acting"
[QUOTE=Master_Xeon;22734724]Wow, I thought I was done with that discussion when I quit The Specialists Roleplay mod...[/QUOTE]
You and me both dude.
...Then again I will hop in every so often to troll it.
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