Well, I had my hard drive taken away for about a month, and i recently got it back last week. I updated Gmod, but now it crashes immediately on startup without any error messages displaying. I was planning to make a server, and downloaded some crap to do with it, but it didnt go into my steam folder though.... could it be my hlsupdate that is whack >.> If you are familiar with dumps, somebody tell me what is going on here: [url]http://dumps.garrysmod.com/?view=3829714966&refresh=2[/url]
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Ooh, yum yum, tasty!
• You crashed in engine.dll with the failure NULL_POINTER_READ_c0000005_engine.dll!Unknown on Tue May 24 22:24:04.000 2011
• You were using 95 % of your memory
• If you have permission you can download this mdmp here or chew this log again.
Stack Trace
engine (no symbols)
Reversed Console Log
42(51.965553): Unknown command "sv_allow_wait_command"
41(51.964807): maxplayers set to 128
40(40.034379): [May 24 2011 13:12:26]
39(40.034343): Garry's Mod server.dll Build #122 38(36.264020): Disabled
37(36.263912): Mounting ageofchivalry.. 36(36.263896): Disabled
35(36.263787): Mounting dystopia.. 34(36.263771): Disabled
33(36.263627): Mounting pvkii.. 32(36.263609): Disabled
31(36.263496): Mounting zps.. 30(36.263480): Disabled
29(36.263367): Mounting diprip.. 28(36.263350): No permission
27(36.263244): Mounting left4dead.. 26(36.263228): No permission
25(36.263123): Mounting left4dead2.. 24(36.263106): No permission
23(36.262997): Mounting zeno_clash.. 22(36.262980): No permission
21(36.262871): Mounting hl1mp.. 20(36.262854): No permission
19(36.262706): Mounting hl1.. 18(36.262671): OK
17(36.031953): Mounting lostcoast.. 16(36.031928): No permission
15(36.031778): Mounting portal.. 14(36.031743): OK
13(35.895537): Mounting hl2mp.. 12(35.895520): No permission
11(35.895378): Mounting episodic.. 10(35.895361): No permission
9(35.895254): Mounting tf.. 8(35.895237): No permission
7(35.895126): Mounting ep2.. 6(35.895104): No permission
5(35.894956): Mounting dod.. 4(35.894919): OK
3(33.631963): Mounting cstrike.. 2(33.629675): OK
1(31.607230): Mounting hl2.. '
Loaded Modules
c:\program files\alwil software\avast5\snxhk.dll
c:\program files\bonjour\mdnsnsp.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\asl.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\cfnetwork.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\coreaudiotoolbox.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\corefoundation.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\coregraphics.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\corevideo.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\icudt40.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\icuin40.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\icuuc40.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\libdispatch.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\objc.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\pthreadvc2.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\sqlite3.dll
c:\program files\common files\apple\apple application support\zlib1.dll
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\corevideo.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\qtcf.dll
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktime.qts
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktime3gpp.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktime3gppauthoring.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeaudiosupport.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeauthoring.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimecapture.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeeffects.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeessentials.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeh264.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeimage.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimeinternetextras.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimempeg.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimempeg4.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimempeg4authoring.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimemusic.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimestreaming.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimestreamingauthoring.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimestreamingextras.qtx
c:\program files\quicktime\qtsystem\quicktimevr.qtx
c:\windows\system32\advapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\apphelp.dll
c:\windows\system32\clbcatq.dll
c:\windows\system32\comctl32.dll
c:\windows\system32\comdlg32.dll
c:\windows\system32\comres.dll
c:\windows\system32\crypt32.dll
c:\windows\system32\cryptnet.dll
c:\windows\system32\d3d8thk.dll
c:\windows\system32\d3d9.dll
c:\windows\system32\dbghelp.dll
c:\windows\system32\dciman32.dll
c:\windows\system32\ddraw.dll
c:\windows\system32\dinput.dll
c:\windows\system32\dinput8.dll
c:\windows\system32\dnsapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\dsound.dll
c:\windows\system32\gdi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\glu32.dll
c:\windows\system32\hid.dll
c:\windows\system32\hnetcfg.dll
c:\windows\system32\iertutil.dll
c:\windows\system32\imagehlp.dll
c:\windows\system32\imm32.dll
c:\windows\system32\iphlpapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
c:\windows\system32\ksuser.dll
c:\windows\system32\midimap.dll
c:\windows\system32\msacm32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msacm32.drv
c:\windows\system32\msasn1.dll
c:\windows\system32\msctf.dll
c:\windows\system32\msctfime.ime
c:\windows\system32\msimg32.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcp60.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcr71.dll
c:\windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
c:\windows\system32\mswsock.dll
c:\windows\system32\netapi32.dll
c:\windows\system32\normaliz.dll
c:\windows\system32\ntdll.dll
c:\windows\system32\ntdsapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\ole32.dll
c:\windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
c:\windows\system32\opengl32.dll
c:\windows\system32\psapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\rasadhlp.dll
c:\windows\system32\rpcrt4.dll
c:\windows\system32\rsaenh.dll
c:\windows\system32\secur32.dll
c:\windows\system32\sensapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\setupapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\shell32.dll
c:\windows\system32\shlwapi.dll
c:\windows\system32\urlmon.dll
c:\windows\system32\user32.dll
c:\windows\system32\userenv.dll
c:\windows\system32\usp10.dll
c:\windows\system32\uxtheme.dll
c:\windows\system32\version.dll
c:\windows\system32\wbem\fastprox.dll
c:\windows\system32\wbem\wbemcomn.dll
c:\windows\system32\wbem\wbemprox.dll
c:\windows\system32\wbem\wbemsvc.dll
c:\windows\system32\wdmaud.drv
c:\windows\system32\winhttp.dll
c:\windows\system32\wininet.dll
c:\windows\system32\winmm.dll
c:\windows\system32\winrnr.dll
c:\windows\system32\winspool.drv
c:\windows\system32\wintrust.dll
c:\windows\system32\wldap32.dll
c:\windows\system32\ws2_32.dll
c:\windows\system32\ws2help.dll
c:\windows\system32\wshtcpip.dll
c:\windows\system32\wsock32.dll
c:\windows\system32\xpsp2res.dll
c:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4053_x-ww_e6967989\msvcp80.dll
c:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4053_x-ww_e6967989\msvcr80.dll
c:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.6028_x-ww_61e65202\comctl32.dll
c:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.6002.22509_x-ww_c7dad023\gdiplus.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\crashhandler.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\cserhelper.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\dbghelp.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\gameoverlayrenderer.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\steam.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\steamapps\username removed\garrysmod\bin\binkw32.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\steamapps\username removed\garrysmod\bin\datacache.dll
h:\dereks stuff\games\steam engine\steam\steamapps\username removed\garrys
System Specs would be helpful
Computer: Dell Dimension E510, Win XP
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.0GHz
Under display adapters I found Radeon X600 256MB Hypermemory (and Hypermemory secondary)
Under Computer: ACPI Multiprocessor PC
1.0 GB of ram
If you need anything else, tell me what.
You sure that machine has run GMod before? You have a minor amount of RAM and you appear to be under the minimum recommendations for GMod.
Your computer was probably close to not be able to run the game before he update, and now with a new Source Engine in GMod, your computer probably cannot run it.
[QUOTE=Jackpody;30040223]You sure that machine has run GMod before? You have a minor amount of RAM and you appear to be under the minimum recommendations for GMod.
Your computer was probably close to not be able to run the game before he update, and now with a new Source Engine in GMod, your computer probably cannot run it.[/QUOTE]
Before the engine update i only had 512mb ram and it ran fine (a little bit of HDD swapping on the side). 1gb should be enough to run this iteration of the engine with a little bit of disk swapping going on. the engine is way unoptimized for what it is (when you see what Gmod uses it for) when compared to the older engine, the proof is in the pudding so to speak.
Hmm, I see Madmax. But it's not only about the RAM on Radboy16's computer. His whole computer is pretty outdated, but especially his RAM.
You said you installed HLSupdate, but that shouldn't cause any problems if installed correctly. Do you have any addons installed in your Garrysmod folder? (or the addons folder?) That could be pretty useful to know. You could eventually try to take GMod to lowest graphics as possible. If that still doesn't help, you should go try to re-install GMod.
I hope it helps out, but if it's a computer-related problem, you probably either need to upgrade your computer or buy a new.
[editline]25th May 2011[/editline]
I just tried reading some of the dump file you posted when this caught my eye:
[quote]Ooh, yum yum, tasty!
• You crashed in engine.dll with the failure NULL_POINTER_READ_c0000005_engine.dll!Unknown on Tue May 24 22:24:04.000 2011
• You were using 95 % of your memory
• If you have permission you can download this mdmp here or chew this log again.
Stack Trace.
[/quote]
It really proves my point of the engine update. Since your computer was also pretty low-end and with GMod's new Source Engine, it was simply too much for your computer to run. Especially when it states that you were using 95% of your memory.
[QUOTE=Jackpody;30040342]Hmm, I see Madmax. But it's not only about the RAM on Radboy16's computer. His whole computer is pretty outdated, but especially his RAM.
You said you installed HLSupdate, but that shouldn't cause any problems if installed correctly. Do you have any addons installed in your Garrysmod folder? (or the addons folder?) That could be pretty useful to know. You could eventually try to take GMod to lowest graphics as possible. If that still doesn't help, you should go try to re-install GMod.
I hope it helps out, but if it's a computer-related problem, you probably either need to upgrade your computer or buy a new.
[editline]25th May 2011[/editline]
I just tried reading some of the dump file you posted when this caught my eye:
It really proves my point of the engine update. Since your computer was also pretty low-end and with GMod's new Source Engine, it was simply too much for your computer to run. Especially when it states that you were using 95% of your memory.[/QUOTE]
Mine is far more out dated then his and i only see crashes on certain servers (poorly coded addons/plugins or outdated addons/plugins, or poorly configured server). i can name a few servers that i play on that will cause a crash when playing on them for a while or when a function is called.
My computer spec
P4 northwood 2.8ghz
2gb ram
Xp Pro SP3
GeForce 6800 GT AGP
About the only thing I have better then him is more Ram.
in single player i have never seen a crash, on a server i have seen quite a few memory address related errors (cant read or write) quite possibly due to a faulty plug in. ran memtest86+ quite a few times to stress test my ram with no failures on any address.
maybe he needs to make sure his drivers are up to date, and if they are then maybe he needs to use a older version. validating game cache (which can solve many crashes and or errors.
and back in 2008/2009 i never seen any crashes with Gmod, in early/mid 2008 i still had 512mb ram, in late 2008 i had 2gb of ram.
its not the damn pc its the game updates fucked up mostly everything i have 2 computers one exactly like madmax and this one im writing (core i7,4 GB ram ati hd 5000) and i crash too
Hmm. It just seems strange that he's crashing with engine.dll after the Source Engine updates. And especially because he's at 95%.
But if other people are crashing like Illchrizl, I'll either try to verify game cache and if that doesn't work. try to wait it out. I've had some GMod errors and crashes and I just waited it out. Then it usually works again after a couple of updates. (and uploading .dmp files.)
But hopefully, you'll be able to run this again at some point. Good luck.
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