Hello. I am a moderator of the EncryptedRP DarkRP server. I was playing normally, when a player named MozartT #KDEN connected. He began proppushing and I warned him for that one time and a second time. He was kicked due to the limit and reconnected not a long time after. Then he was calmer, but he was shot by another player and defended himself by propkilling him. He accidentally kiled himself and began raging at the person who shot him and my choice to blame him for propkilling and not banning the other player. Then he said he was going to crash the server. After a minute, the server began lagging insanely. I had no choice but to ban him. The server kept lagging for about 5 minutes, then it stopped.
His info:
Steam username - MozartT #KDEN
Steam ID - STEAM_0:1:79495014
Profile - [url]http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198119255757[/url]
I think people should know about this guy DDoSing the server because of rage.
Server IP : 185.38.149.155:28500
What do you want us to do? Tell Gaben? There really isn't any point
[QUOTE=Exho;48081995]What do you want us to do? Tell Gaben? There really isn't any point[/QUOTE]
Maybe raise awareness to server owners about this kind of players?
EDIT: Or just make people avoid this specific one.
I love how the server ip is in the op
I went on the server to have fun but no one was on
also i made 2mil by joining and clicking printers in the building you spawn in
9/11 would reccommend
I'll send some cloudflare over there :wink:
Encrypted Role Play Dark Role Play
That's a solid name.
Well, I just tasted half of this community.
Not nice.
Also, you can stop posting.
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[QUOTE=MintyTeaTV;48082161]Well, I just tasted half of this community.
Not nice.
Also, you can stop posting.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's you who should stop posting.
[QUOTE=MintyTeaTV;48082161]Well, I just tasted half of this community.
Not nice.
Also, you can stop posting.[/QUOTE]
I didn't give you permission to lick me perv
[QUOTE=MintyTeaTV;48081920]he trashed my server and le trollered me[/QUOTE]
this man is a hero who has joined the righteous fight against the evil known as darkrp
He deserves a medal for being the bravest server owner!
EDIT: Moderator* -_-
This person is probably using a paid/free booter to do this, since the attack isn't very big or long lasting it 99 percent sure isn't a botnet.
Get the server admin/owner to look through the server logs for his connect and disconnect, it should contain the users IP address, you can use this to file a abuse report. To do this you must:
First of all copy the IP address and type it into this website it will display information about that IP including, ISP and approximate location.
[url]https://who.is/[/url]
You should see from the output who their ISP (internet service provider) is.
It should also state where abuse reports should be made to such as an email or telephone number if they don't have an abuse contact. Go to the ISP's website of the IP address and find to report the Ip address with contact information for network attacks.
I hope you resolve the situation.
You will not get much help here, your best bet is to file an abuse report as instructed above.
[QUOTE=serverwatch;48085783]This person is probably using a paid/free booter to do this, since the attack isn't very big or long lasting it 99 percent sure isn't a botnet.
Get the server admin/owner to look through the server logs for his connect and disconnect, it should contain the users IP address, you can use this to file a abuse report. To do this you must:
First of all copy the IP address and type it into this website it will display information about that IP including, ISP and approximate location.
[url]https://who.is/[/url]
You should see from the output who their ISP (internet service provider) is.
It should also state where abuse reports should be made to such as an email or telephone number if they don't have an abuse contact. Go to the ISP's website of the IP address and find to report the Ip address with contact information for network attacks.
I hope you resolve the situation.
You will not get much help here, your best bet is to file an abuse report as instructed above.[/QUOTE]
lol, you realize that nobody ever cares to do shit like this because after 300 seconds or whenever his booter time is up he'll likely just move on and do other stuff.
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;48086082]lol, you realize that nobody ever cares to do shit like this because after 300 seconds or whenever his booter time is up he'll likely just move on and do other stuff.[/QUOTE]
You are saying that "nobody even cares" about illegal activity?
[QUOTE=serverwatch;48086100]You are saying that "nobody even cares" about illegal activity?[/QUOTE]
Just because it's against some law doesn't mean that as soon as someone boots someone offline police immediately get dispatched to their house or they get disconnected by their ISP as soon as a single report rolls in, some countries don't even have laws against denial of service attacks.
DoS isn't the only thing that this happens to either, many laws are broken often right in front of law enforcement but they don't care because they have to dedicate their resources to actual criminals.
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;48086304]Just because it's against some law doesn't mean that as soon as someone boots someone offline police immediately get dispatched to their house or they get disconnected by their ISP as soon as a single report rolls in, some countries don't even have laws against denial of service attacks.
DoS isn't the only thing that this happens to either, many laws are broken often right in front of law enforcement but they don't care because they have to dedicate their resources to actual criminals.[/QUOTE]
There have been cases where people have been warned by the police for DOS attacks. And also their internet connections disconnected, it isn't rare. The only reason why they often get away with it is because if they are not directly hosting the attack (instead using a booter) its harder to see who did it, but logs for people who have logged into the booter can easily be obtained, its the fault of the people who host the booters allowing them to be abused. Also the fault of much of the community silently accepting this behaviour as normal.
It seems to me you are trying to justify what this person is doing or have done such actions yourself and trying to make it seem "not really a real crime", because you are implying that people who DOS aren't real criminals because you said "resources to actual criminals". Unless they are living in some country that doesn't have that law well lots do
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Most[which?] jurisdictions have laws under which denial-of-service attacks are illegal.
In the US, denial-of-service attacks may be considered a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act with penalties that include years of imprisonment.[60] The Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section of the US Department of Justice handles cases of (D)DoS.
The the United Kingdom, is unusual in that it specifically outlawed denial-of-service attacks and set a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison[61] with the Police and Justice Act 2006, which amended the Computer Misuse Act 1990.
On January 7, 2013, Anonymous posted a petition on the whitehouse.gov site asking that DDoS be recognized as a legal form of protest similar to the Occupy protests.[62][63]
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So what gives, you think what this guy did was right or something?
I've found that most people who say things like "nobody cares" and "its the internet!", are people who think they can get away with anything on-line even breaking laws when that really is NOT the case.... Even if something is punished rarely, you shouldn't encourage or make it seem that you can do it and nothing will happen because you are just as bad as the people doing it then. You are enabling and not discouraging this sort of behaviour, which is totally wrong from any law abiding internet users perspective. It's like saying,
"That shop doesn't really have any security cameras, its fine to steal from it though you will never get caught,".
Facepunch - the only place where using clientside lua scripts or speedhacking (legal) is seen a big bad worse thing to do than booting (very illegal and never justified) peoples servers or peoples internet connections offline.
Exactly the same logic with a lot of server owners these days to be honest. Well done guys, you've proven once again that for many on this forum the priorities and thoughts of people are inconsistent about how the real world works. Misguided, Totally misguided, and very worrying.
Whoa, this sounds pretty serious, quick question though.
Did the individual in question use a turtle ddOs? It's currently one of the most prevailing ddOs methods out there. I'm surprised your server didn't have the hare protection.
I can help you get protection for this, but protection for this is not free.
[QUOTE=BirdApex;48086721]Whoa, this sounds pretty serious, quick question though.
Did the individual in question use a turtle ddOs? It's currently one of the most prevailing ddOs methods out there. I'm surprised your server didn't have the hare protection.
I can help you get protection for this, but protection for this is not free.[/QUOTE]
You sound like snake-oil salesman
[QUOTE=BirdApex;48086721]Whoa, this sounds pretty serious, quick question though.
Did the individual in question use a turtle ddOs? It's currently one of the most prevailing ddOs methods out there. I'm surprised your server didn't have the hare protection.
I can help you get protection for this, but protection for this is not free.[/QUOTE]
Introducing Turtle ddOs repellent!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PZCDt80.png[/img]
For only 46 monthly installments of $9.99 you too can be protected from turtle ddOs
[sp]It's DDoS, at least try to seem legit[/sp]
[QUOTE=meharryp;48087070]
[sp]It's DDoS, at least try to seem legit[/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm sure his product is legitimate but his presentation is just awful. "Billy Mays here with Turtle ddOs repellant!"
[img]http://i.gyazo.com/7133f97146a8f36948197ae2137817d9.png[/img]
[QUOTE=serverwatch;48086100]You are saying that "nobody even cares" about illegal activity?[/QUOTE]
Call 911 tell them some kid in the US is ddosing a darkrp server, they'll send some attack helicopters.
[QUOTE=ExtReMLapin;48087232]Call 911 tell them some kid in the US is ddosing a darkrp server, they'll send some attack helicopters.[/QUOTE]
Nah, that would only happen if he was leaking scriptfodder addons on a file sharing website, have a look for yourself:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA[/url]
[QUOTE=serverwatch;48085783]This person is probably using a paid/free booter to do this, since the attack isn't very big or long lasting it 99 percent sure isn't a botnet.
Get the server admin/owner to look through the server logs for his connect and disconnect, it should contain the users IP address, you can use this to file a abuse report. To do this you must:
First of all copy the IP address and type it into this website it will display information about that IP including, ISP and approximate location.
[url]https://who.is/[/url]
You should see from the output who their ISP (internet service provider) is.
It should also state where abuse reports should be made to such as an email or telephone number if they don't have an abuse contact. Go to the ISP's website of the IP address and find to report the Ip address with contact information for network attacks.
I hope you resolve the situation.
You will not get much help here, your best bet is to file an abuse report as instructed above.[/QUOTE]
you can't file an abuse report to a person's home ISP because you [i]believe[/i] they're using a booter, even if you have solid proof it doesn't really come down to their ISP unless they're literally hosting it from home, you'd have to laughably try to report him to some agency (if you even HAVE proof of him using one, which you probably don't), if you know which booter he's using you could file an abuse report to whoever is hosting that which will be the most effective thing to do
[QUOTE=serverwatch;48086561]There have been cases where people have been warned by the police for DOS attacks. And also their internet connections disconnected, it isn't rare.
[/quote]
So? Most of the time that people get warned and not arrested is because someone would call in and complain, the police also know that internet drama is not worth arresting a guy based on whatever information they end up getting handed to them because they would probably not be able to file charges.
[QUOTE]The only reason why they often get away with it is because if they are not directly hosting the attack (instead using a booter) its harder to see who did it, but logs for people who have logged into the booter can easily be obtained, its the fault of the people who host the booters allowing them to be abused.[/QUOTE]
If you're using a booter and someone reports you to your ISP how are you even going to prove it's them using a booter unless they outright admit it to their ISP or on their own social media?
Hint: [B]You don't.[/B]
[QUOTE]Also the fault of much of the community silently accepting this behaviour as normal.[/QUOTE]
False. Most competent server owners understand it's a shitty outcry for attention and an attempt to cause drama, they also recognize that it's a waste of time and energy to pursue this sort of activity outside of simply blocking attacks and maintaining a "Don't mention DDoS policy"
They like a lot of other people, especially people on Facepunch also understand that it's a thing that happens, it's going to keep happening and all we can do is just try to stop giving people performing the attacks and stop causing drama over them.
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It seems to me you are trying to justify what this person is doing or have done such actions yourself and trying to make it seem "not really a real crime", because you are implying that people who DOS aren't real criminals because you said "resources to actual criminals". Unless they are living in some country that doesn't have that law well lots do
[/quote]
You're accusing me of DDoSing people because I simply pointed out that nobody cares about drama, and that law enforcement don't care about a dumbass kid using a booter on people. What I meant by actual criminals is people that commit more serious crimes that actually affect people, if a cop sees someone speeding and someone failing to use their turn signal they're going to go after the person speeding 9/10 times.
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So what gives, you think what this guy did was right or something?
[/quote]
They're not right, but noboooddddyyyyyy carreessss.
I've been attacked before, I've had my server attacked before and every time I just unplug my internet, walk my dog or do something else for a bit and just go on with my life because most of the time they'll just go away.
Ontop of it, it's completely stupid to wish that someone gets arrested over somebody that attacks my internet connection. I would [B]NEVER[/B] wish that upon anybody not even the people that attacked my internet.
Getting thrown in jail, ruining relationships, potential job future, breaking family apart, over stupid computer misuse or hacking charges.
The best part is, people like YOU encourage people to attack targets. People that attack game servers, twitch streamers, etc. They want to just have everyone get upset for a cheap laugh and I'm not even sure if I should bother writing as much as I'll probably end up writing.
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I've found that most people who say things like "nobody cares" and "its the internet!", are people who think they can get away with anything on-line even breaking laws when that really is NOT the case.... Even if something is punished rarely, you shouldn't encourage or make it seem that you can do it and nothing will happen because you are just as bad as the people doing it then. You are enabling and not discouraging this sort of behaviour, which is totally wrong from any law abiding internet users perspective.
[/quote]
You're accusing people that say "nobody cares" and "its the internet!" are people that have broken laws and the only reason they're saying this is because we're all a bunch of e-bandits looking to look servers. That's false, we're saying nobody cares because it's pointless drama, stop causing it. We say that shit because yet again people like you run around and cry about about drama completely pointlessly at least when I went around like a dumbass crying about people endlessly harassing me over fuckin gmod it had some sort of purpose and point to it.
If anyone is enabling it, it's you. People that attack servers love to read shit like this because you look stupid when posting it, when people say "We don't care" or nothing at all they quickly move on.
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It's like saying, "That shop doesn't really have any security cameras, its fine to steal from it though you will never get caught,".[/quote]
That's a horrible analogy, people that steal are causing far more damage then someone who floods someones or some servers internet for 5-20 minutes. If an attacker causes $600+ dollars of damage it's unfortunate but the internet is a HUGE place and it would be a waste of resources to go after someone responsible, you're better off at cutting your losses and taking preventative measures.
This is NOT the case in real life, in real life you can easily contact the police and if they've left substantial evidence it could lead to arrest, if you've CAUGHT the criminal yourself then congratulations!
If you end up DDoSing some large organization such as visa, mastercard, paypal or spamhaus.. :v you will attract a lot of attention. If you piss off a giant company and cause them to lose a large amount of money, this is when law enforcement, typically The FBI or Interpol decides to get involved.
If you don't understand what I've explained, I'm basically stating that stealing a Camera can do damage to a business but it is also worth it to pursue who stole the Camera, you can recover a Camera, have whoever stole it arrested and set it back up for sale.
Online it's a different story, people can theoretically cause that much damage but it very rarely happens and it is typically a targetted attack, ten minutes of downtime will cause ZERO loss to plenty of companies simply because people will just try again later or will wait out the attack. When it does you're better off just cutting your losses, investing in protection and preventing it from reoccuring.
The exception is that if you're a large company that has taken a large financial loss majority of the time it is worth it to pursue who caused the damage to your company and the FBI or Interpol or whatever police force is in your country will likely be interested in bringing them in to prevent further damage.
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Facepunch - the only place where using clientside lua scripts or speedhacking (legal) is seen a big bad worse thing to do than booting (very illegal and never justified) peoples servers or peoples internet connections offline.
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If someone is making a clientside lua script, or is speedhacking and it's funny to watch and I do reckon that most Facepunchers agree that someone getting a rise out of someone else or spawning tons of money via ARCBank or spawning tons of shipments while spinning rapidly in a circle while admins get really upset.. a lot of the time it honestly is genuinely funny, and honestly I think that most of Facepunch finds most of this sort of humor to be funny.
People on Facepunch at least from what I've experienced people generally frown upon DoS or DDoS or pressing a button in a booter panel as well as doxing other people. I'm not 100% sure but I think that doxing people and flat out admitting to attacking servers typically results in a ban. I think you're most likely misinterpreting what we're saying, what majority of the people in the thread are stating is that nobody cares about DoS or DDoS because the issue typically goes away on it's own, once somebody gets bored they generally stop doing it. Majority of people that send out these attacks can't take down half decent DDoS pr
Waow that didnt happend the actually thing was he abused hes power and i got rude and prop kill but they thing i didnt ddos"!
[QUOTE=serverwatch;48085783]paid/free booter[/QUOTE]
Are there other types of booters then?
[QUOTE=circuitbawx;48091213]Are there other types of booters then?[/QUOTE]
yes
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/eiSQX3j.jpg[/IMG]
What ever happened to image macros getting you banned.
[QUOTE=YourStalker;48092759]What ever happened to image macros getting you banned.[/QUOTE]
that's just a regular image, not some shit 9gag meme
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