Anyone else seem to think Garry's Mod is a dying game? I feel every time I go on, every gamemode is nearly dead, except for TTT and DarkRP. I never seen anything new, that is somewhat popular. Anyone else feel the same way?
The game is over a decade old, of course its not as popular as it used to be
Blame Garry's shitty DayZ clone.
If anything it's gotten more of a player base over the last year and a bit compared to 2 - 3 years ago but in terms of quality yeah it's dying.
Player-base wise it is thriving more than ever before, but a lot of the good programmers have left, sure there's still plenty willing to develop, play, and what not, but some developers got bored and decided to leave. The community has also taken a huge turn from what I've seen, the community is just a mess and almost every time I get on Facepunch I see a kid asking for help with TTT/DarkRP/M9K, the amount of addons and custom gamemodes has plummeted because they're pushed to the bottom of the server list because of how it works now.
TL;DR It's not dead, just in a natural hump.
I can only expand on what was said above and previous times this subject has come up; pretty sure Garry's Mod is one of the top played games on Steam, but a lot of the players are currently very young
There isn't any incentive for people to make new creative gamemodes because it's very hard to get off the ground, unless you're lucky to be noticed by youtubers. It's not very inspiring, especially when gamemodes take a LOT of work and there'll always be some cunt who renames DarkRP to something related to a shitty fad and get tons of players within a day
Like, not to be rude, most of the gamemodes that get posted in Addons & Releases lately have either been 1. roleplay related, 2. huge concepts with lots of ideas but no sign of release or gameplay, or 3. Looks cool but doesn't gain much interest and quickly gets buried, which is the biggest shame in my opinion
Well thats a scary thought for somebody considering making a gamemode :/
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;47456694]but a lot of the players are currently very young[/QUOTE]
That right there is formulated in an extremely soft way. One of the still most active community parts are the builders in GMod. But you rarely see them posting here on FP, except the "celebrities" among them.
Another part that's still quite active are the coders. With Expression Advanced 2, Rusketh gave them a lot of coding-food but those one mainly sees around servers, not forums.
Yeah I honestly don't think it's dying but it does need a big boost in community development wise.
[QUOTE=Exho;47456721]Well thats a scary thought for somebody considering making a gamemode :/[/QUOTE]
LOL, I don't mean to scare people off with that, like I would fucking love a new mode to sink a thousand hours into since I've overplayed TTT, ZS and sort of JB at this point
A prime example of shitty role play edits is this SCP. Like honestly I went on to see why so many people are on it and all it is Dark RP with new job names, shitty map, and Mass RDM.
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;47456826]LOL, I don't mean to scare people off with that, like I would fucking love a new mode to sink a thousand hours into since I've overplayed TTT, ZS and sort of JB at this point[/QUOTE]
I don't really know whether to be scared or not. I'm currently in the makings of a roleplay gamemode from scratch, and to be honest, I'm not really scared of having no population in the gamemode, as I feel pretty confident it will catch on. But then again, isn't that what every gamemode developer would say?
Shitty YouTubers such as Vanoss, Venturian and Pewds ruined it.
I wouldn't mind see how this "roleplay gamemode" is once you finish it up
[QUOTE=insanezanes;47456836]A prime example of shitty role play edits is this SCP. Like honestly I went on to see why so many people are on it and all it is Dark RP with new job names, shitty map, and Mass RDM.[/QUOTE]
I'm honestly really surprised there isn't just a huge/plain Gmod Deathmatch gamemode, since a lot of people who play other modes just seem to want to kill people constantly :v:
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;47457054]I'm honestly really surprised there isn't just a huge/plain Gmod Deathmatch gamemode, since a lot of people who play other modes just seem to want to kill people constantly :v:[/QUOTE]
I did make a gamemode like that, with classes and vehicles and levels and control points, it completly flopped, everyone joined, died then left, here's the gametracker graph:
[img]http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/server_players.php?GSID=4786863&start=-1m&request=0693389399908483[/img]
Tbh the only thing I've been coding outside of scriptfodder is shitty Lua hacks.
The only reason I still play Garry's Mod is because of the community on servers. Whenever my favorite servers are dead, I usually stay off Garry's mod for a few days.
Garry's mod is not dead, its still has an active player base and is one of steam's most played games.
There's a lot of reasons why Garry's Mod's quality is in the dump that goes WAYYYYY beyond little kids.
First off, there's the lack of creativity. Look at what's being submitted right now. The front page is filled with server content, deathrun maps, and models. When's the last time anyone made anything even remotely original in the past week? Jack shit. It's especially sad when you consider that this is a sandbox game. Keyword here, sandbox. You can create anything if you know basic lua, you can create your own NPCs and make your own weapons, why waste it on a sound gun that will make someone laugh for five seconds and then proceed to just clog up the workshop?
Second, there's the servers. Garry's mod's servers are in the toilet considering most of the servers are just DarkRP with a thousand different jobs that all turn out to be the same thing with slight edits, TTT servers where little kids run rampant and freekill without repercussion, and Sandbox servers that get DDoS'd for god knows why. Servers have also pretty much become a business now where you can make a DarkRP server and cram it full of donator perks and end up getting rich quick.
Third, the youtubers. Yeah, yeah, you all probably know the youtubers are a problem, but it goes beyond them just being annoying. The thing that makes the youtubers the worst part of Garry's Mod's community is the fact that they both cause the hordes of twelve year olds to flood to the game AND they leech off of everyone that make a mod. Look at Vanoss' channel, look at Venturian's channel, look at any popular youtuber's channel and take note of their viewcount. They have at least a million views on a good majority of their Garry's Mod videos and it's pretty safe to say that they're making money off of their videos. Videos that involve them using an addon that someone else made for free. They go onto the workshop, pick a few addons from the front page or dig down a bit, find some random addon, run around with it on a 7/11 map while screaming and blowing themselves up, then make bank off of the footage they take of it. We make the addons, some of which take months of work to complete, and never see a dime for the work we make (excluding scriptfodder) and then these assholes come in and get showered in cash just for screaming on video. Even worse is that a lot of them NEVER link to the addons that they use and instead link to some shitty T-shirt store and then their fans assume that THEY made the addons when in reality, they know fuckall about coding.
So to answer the question, the Game itself isn't dead, it's got a huge playerbase, but the quality of the game has dipped into a bottomless pit of shit filled with sharks, ninjas, acid, Pewdiepie, and tesla coils and has been ruined. The ninjas are also on fire.
tl;dr No creativity, shitty servers, and youtubers made the game shitty even though it's played a ton still.
I wish we could just pull it out of that state because Garry's mod is by far one of my favorite games to play and the most time played
The thing is with the way the server list currently works, it shows the gamemodes in the same old order, meaning 90% of the new players will end up in a darkrp or TTT server and think that's all garry's mod has.
I think it's time for some new gamemodes to come out.
I will post in WAYWO later if i have anything to show for
I wouldn't say Gmod is dying, but I will say that the community has by and large shifted away from what made Gmod great and towards more FOTM based and DarkRP based content.
I'm quietly confident that, given time, sandbox will have a resurgence. And, with that resurgence, we'll see attention to other gamemodes as well. But for the time being, the Gmod community is focused on three things in particular: DarkRP, TTT, and posing ragdolls from things like FNAF.
[QUOTE=Spastik2D;47457710]First off, there's the lack of creativity. Look at what's being submitted right now. The front page is filled with server content, deathrun maps, and models.[/quote]
Hrm. There's that new driving map made with user-built contraptions in mind...aaaand that's the only thing I can think of. Yup. Not much coming out, and few of the models are actually useful for building. Usually rips from or models of the latest FOTM shitgame that everyone's playing. It's a given these models get boring about as fast as the FOTM game they came from.
Part of it may stem from the fact that builders are for the most part happy with SProps, PHx and ACF, though. We're quiet and we're not clamoring for any new props to be made, so nobody's making anything for sandbox. I could name quite a few props I'd like to see, but I'm just one builder. The sandbox community in general is either happy/content with what's already there, or they've simply given up on trying to get anything made.
It may also be in part due to Facepunch's layout. I remember back when the Gmod section had subforums for mapping, for modelling, for Lua, etc etc, we had a much wider variety of stuff coming out. And far less 'Oooh hey this indie game's popular right now lemme make ragdolls of X character from it'. Nowadays, with all we have being general discussion, screenshots/movies/dupes, gamemode/addon and help, it's a lot harder to actually find this sort of content. You used to be able to use those subforums to more or less skim the sludge off the surface, now with them not existing...
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;47457054]I'm honestly really surprised there isn't just a huge/plain Gmod Deathmatch gamemode, since a lot of people who play other modes just seem to want to kill people constantly :v:[/QUOTE]
there's always hex's server
if you want to be banned for having gm_spawn in your config
or want to have your keybinds rebound because you made him mad
or you have had any vac from any period of time
I run two servers. A FNAF themed Murder server and a Q3A server. Murder sever gets a fuckload of players while the Q3A one gets just me and someone on my friends list if I force them to join me. Honestly it's quite fucking depressing.
I love the Q3A server way more. But seems like no one else shares my opinion.
As someone who's been working on a server/gamemode for over a year, this terrifies me.
I think a lot of the more mature community is dying out-- which is a major problem for someone trying to run a quality community. I wonder where everyone's going [I]to[/I], though.
[QUOTE=Vipes;47458247]I run two servers. A FNAF themed Murder server and a Q3A server. Murder sever gets a fuckload of players while the Q3A one gets just me and someone on my friends list if I force them to join me. Honestly it's quite fucking depressing.
I love the Q3A server way more. But seems like no one else shares my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard of Q3A. What's that? =p
Quake 3 Arena
Someone completely ported Quake 3 Arena to Gmod. It's a fast paced twitch arena shooter.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;47458208]there's always hex's server
if you want to be banned for having gm_spawn in your config
or want to have your keybinds rebound because you made him mad
or you have had any vac from any period of time[/QUOTE]
Don't forget about having a private profile!
[editline]4th April 2015[/editline]
"Guys why is my server dying no one will join it"
It's sad really that for as long Gmod has been out, no one ported over HL2DM. I'd run the shit out of that game mode.
[QUOTE=Vipes;47458539]It's sad really that for as long Gmod has been out, no one ported over HL2DM. I'd run the shit out of that game mode.[/QUOTE]
Just run sandbox minus the spawnmenu.
[QUOTE=Evilaustin;47458980]Just run sandbox minus the spawnmenu.[/QUOTE]
Only thing is there's no Kill limit, no map voting once there's a winner, ect.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
