The much bigger picture on the recent events regarding backdoors - Garry's Mod

Hello. You're reading this because of the interesting title, you're reading this because you're hoping what you're going to read will be interesting. You're hoping that what you read will surprise you. Trust me, it will. What has been on the front page of the Garry's Mod subforum of Facepunch in the last two weeks? A few things, actually. I need you to think back, and remember what you read. That's right. You read the post about HeX's anticheat on 5/31/16, which was posted exactly two week ago. It was an interesting topic that focused on (as the title suggests), HeX's anticheat, and his harsh judgement to "cheaters" that come his way, including talk about his access to client system files. A topic about an anticheat, and a vigilante that will stop at nothing to rid his server of cheaters. Next, three days later, on 6/3/16, we had a thread about a DarkRP addon, known as "Drugz Mod" - yes, you've probably heard of it. A backdoor was found in it, that allowed any user full access when a command was ran in console. A topic about a backdoor, found in Drugz Mod. The next thread, posted ten hours ago (some time around 6/5/16), was about a backdoor found in a donation system, known as Prometheus. Prometheus is a donation system, that used the web to connect and used many monetary options such as PayPal for donations to be obtained. There was talk and suspicon to whether the developer, known as Marcuz, was responsible. So a spotlight of the last two weeks were these threads. A thread about an anticheat, and two backdoors. Just a coincidence, right? Wrong. I'm going to tell you something; give you a glimpse of my mind. Give you all a glimpse of my instinct, and my theory. If you go back to the anticheat thread about HeX, and go through the pages, you will notice that there is a overwhelming amount of people there trying to defend HeX, trying to make everyone believe that he couldn't do the things people were saying about him, that he could alter system files. Why is that, you wonder? The people in the thread wanted (and attempted) to make HeX look like how he wants to look; an anticheat developer, that just wants to keep his server clean from the dirt that cheaters drag in through the front door. I wasn't the only one to realise this. Falco looked past the facade; and noted instantly that they were doing exactly what they had planned to do; distract everyone from the real question. I looked past this, until I went deeper. Then, a few days later, two threads are made talking about backdoors. What is weird about this, you ask? Well, my friend, what do you think about when you hear the word 'backdoor'? Do you think of beautiful daisies in the grass? No. You think about misplaced access, a violation of privacy. And I will ask you this, when you think of 'anticheat', what comes to mind? Protection. Protection from evil cheats. When you think of 'anticheat', you think of a holy barrier that protects you from the bad, bad, people out there. Let's talk about HeX for a second. He ran a very successful anticheat for years, but there was always a strange stigma around him. You heard talk that he could do very powerful, powerful things, things that go deeper than just your Garry's Mod. When I joined his server, even I could feel the access he had. He had a lot of access. But talk of this was pushed away, "HeX couldn't do that!" - he had followers, people that would stick up for him whenever his credentials were questioned. It is a known fact to some, that HeX had more ideas than just releasing his anticheat - he had plans to release his anticheat, cut his code of honor and take down roleplay servers. Oh, if only you knew how much he hated roleplay servers. A few days after the thread was made, he posted an announcement to his group, known as UnitedHosts ([url]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements[/url]) Here, you will see he has changed things, keys won't be rebinded, /data files won't be overwritten, bla bla. That's not important. You'll see him admit that he was childish with the key-rebinds. Good guy HeX, right? Wrong. Look a little bit lower. He, yet again, denies having exploits in his anticheat, that allow access to files beyond Garry's Mod. Painting a good picture of himself, while hiding his true intentions. Now I know you're starting to see what I see. Why is it, that when an anticheat thread about HeX is made, that people flurry to his side and defend him, saying he can't do the things that they say he can, and the talk is furthur distracted from what really matters: Could he really alter system files? Is it really possible? You are reassured by HeX's team, that it is not. Then a few days later talk about backdoors pop up. The talk about HeX and his anticheat fade, and the new news heats up. Less heat on HeX now, much to his approval. And why is it, that a DarkRP mod has a backdoor? A mod that most know HeX hates? A coincidence? I don't think so. I strongly believe that HeX is a mastermind. His truly evil side has been shown to some when talk spread about the beginning of his terror on DarkRP servers, yet his whole image of the 'loving guy', who 'just wants to keep cheaters off his server', is reinforced again and again - blinding the brighter picture. His sadistic behaviour is revealed again and again in the way he would take such pride in destroying cheaters that he goes to the point of messing with system files and rebinding keys. [img]http://puu.sh/pizij/74bf4f561c.png[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/pizk2/9362394b8a.png[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/pizmN/8d8bcee356.png[/img] In each of the screenshots above you can feel the hatred in what he says, for cheating, for Garry, and for Garry's Mod... I must ask you, if someone goes this far to destroy cheaters, how far do you think he'll go in anything else he hates? I think that HeX has been deceiving us all. I think that HeX is the puppetmaster, pulling the strings from where he cannot be seen. I believe he is the destruction of Garry's Mod; out of his hatred that his server is empty, that his server is at the bottom, his hatred of cheaters, and his hatred of Garry himself. Trying to take us off the bigger picture.. I just hope it's not too late. [img]http://puu.sh/pizp7/a3f7b11e68.png[/img]

An interesting theory, but do you have any proof? How would he be able to push workshop updates from someone else's Steam account?

[QUOTE=code_gs;50463604]An interesting theory, but do you have any proof? How would he be able to push workshop updates from someone else's Steam account?[/QUOTE] HeX has many resources. Whether that was planned with the other developers, I don't know. Whether he gained access without their approval, I don't know. But with the timeline like this; it all makes sense.

He might have another one soon :v:

[B]Big Server Men Part 2: Hex Strikes Back[/B] Oh god, I really want this to be true, although it is pretty ridiculous. One thing's for sure, we are in for one hell of a show when his butt buddies get wind of this.

[QUOTE=MadParakeet;50463744][B]Big Server Men Part 2: Hex Strikes Back[/B] Oh god, I really want this to be true, although it is pretty ridiculous. One thing's for sure, we are in for one hell of a show when his butt buddies get wind of this.[/QUOTE] Do we get another ban from skidcheck in this part too?

Hex a mastermind? Definitely not. Exploits have always been prevalent in Gmod scripts. Think of SF and even CoderHire leaks having built in exploits, the viruses that could transfer from player to player in Gmod 9 and the early days of gmod 10. Think of that one time I myself thought it would be a good idea to make it harder to ban me in DarkRP after getting fed up with getting banned for "pretending to be FPtje". In many, arguably most of these cases, people are genuinely convinced that they're not doing anything wrong. Hex is thoroughly convinced that he is doing the right thing, and so are the people who defend it. Hex has a superhero complex, thinking that he is a force for good and that he can use his abilities to make gmod better. Fucking over people he considers the baddies is his strategy. He accepts his guilty until proven innocence principle because people can appeal, and because he considers himself an honest enough dictator to fairly decide whether the appeal is valid. Of course his logic is warped completely. He is harmful, the amount of people unfairly hit by his anticheat is enormous, the anticheat itself is malicious and the way he deals with appeals is based on grudges and what he generally thinks of people. Hex is an extreme example, but exploits in leaked scripts can easily be "justified" with the same warped logic. After all, the people who download leaked scripts are the baddies and they "deserve revenge". Exploits in scripts can be used for when a friend is unfairly banned or when admins in a server abuse their powers. When they run your exploited script, you have the power to fight back. All these justifications are based on emotional arguments: revenge, fighting back, removing filth from a community, killing certain scripts. This emotion inhibits people from seeing how scary that reasoning in reality is. Someone putting an exploit in a script to "fight" abusive admins considers themselves honest, yet they don't understand that they should hold no more powers over a server than the administrators do. They don't see how this exploit idea would be terrible if ANYONE else did the same thing. The reasoning is not only emotional, it is egocentric. This is best seen in all those ban list addons that pop up every now and then. The people behind it promise that they are honest, they "know" of themselves that they are. When the identity of the person is removed, however, the real problem of the idea of ban lists surfaces. I usually do this by starting my argument with "Even if the god damn dalai lama was the one in charge...". Decoupling the specific person behind the exploit/abusive script is a very effective way of attacking this emotional and egocentric reasoning. These things happen not because some crazy cunt acts as a master mind. These things happen because the ones doing it think it's the right thing to do.

lmao -snip-

Hex literally has malicious intentions with his code and that's a known fact. The drugs guy just didn't give a fuck anymore. I kinda scimmed your thread but it looked to me like you were getting meaning from nowhere.

[QUOTE=FPtje;50464256]Hex a mastermind? Definitely not. Exploits have always been prevalent in Gmod scripts. Think of SF and even CoderHire leaks having built in exploits, the viruses that could transfer from player to player in Gmod 9 and the early days of gmod 10. Think of that one time I myself thought it would be a good idea to make it harder to ban me in DarkRP after getting fed up with getting banned for "pretending to be FPtje". In many, arguably most of these cases, people are genuinely convinced that they're not doing anything wrong. Hex is thoroughly convinced that he is doing the right thing, and so are the people who defend it. Hex has a superhero complex, thinking that he is a force for good and that he can use his abilities to make gmod better. Fucking over people he considers the baddies is his strategy. He accepts his guilty until proven innocence principle because people can appeal, and because he considers himself an honest enough dictator to fairly decide whether the appeal is valid. Of course his logic is warped completely. He is harmful, the amount of people unfairly hit by his anticheat is enormous, the anticheat itself is malicious and the way he deals with appeals is based on grudges and what he generally thinks of people. Hex is an extreme example, but exploits in leaked scripts can easily be "justified" with the same warped logic. After all, the people who download leaked scripts are the baddies and they "deserve revenge". Exploits in scripts can be used for when a friend is unfairly banned or when admins in a server abuse their powers. When they run your exploited script, you have the power to fight back. All these justifications are based on emotional arguments: revenge, fighting back, removing filth from a community, killing certain scripts. This emotion inhibits people from seeing how scary that reasoning in reality is. Someone putting an exploit in a script to "fight" abusive admins considers themselves honest, yet they don't understand that they should hold no more powers over a server than the administrators do. They don't see how this exploit idea would be terrible if ANYONE else did the same thing. The reasoning is not only emotional, it is egocentric. This is best seen in all those ban list addons that pop up every now and then. The people behind it promise that they are honest, they "know" of themselves that they are. When the identity of the person is removed, however, the real problem of the idea of ban lists surfaces. I usually do this by starting my argument with "Even if the god damn dalai lama was the one in charge...". Decoupling the specific person behind the exploit/abusive script is a very effective way of attacking this emotional and egocentric reasoning. These things happen not because some crazy cunt acts as a master mind. These things happen because the ones doing it think it's the right thing to do.[/QUOTE] I appreciate the generous reply. When you consider a person like HeX; a power-driven, sadistic player that gets pleasure from messing with cheater's keys - did you really think someone so sadistic would relinquish his only weapon against cheaters if he didn't have an alternative? It's a known fact that HeX himself doesn't like roleplay, doesn't like how Garry has designed things. How could a sadistic person, like HeX, release an anticheat and relinquish some of the pleasure he feels, release his power. Sure, he has a superhero complex, sure he thinks what he's doing is right, but with a man as insane as him, who is so delusional to think that he's never wrong, what else do you think he's thinking? [QUOTE=caf203;50464330]Well said, FPtje. As for the theory that you have made tyguy, it makes sense. Even though I typically don't believe far fetched theories like this one, I think that you convinced me enough to think what you said is true. As for me, all I can do is hope that this predicament is false because if it is true, then things are going to get real shaky real quick. :ohno:[/QUOTE] I'm glad you can see it. It has took a lot to look past the facade, but my eyes are open. [QUOTE=YourStalker;50464578]Hex literally has malicious intentions with his code and that's a known fact. The drugs guy just didn't give a fuck anymore. I kinda scimmed your thread but it looked to me like you were getting meaning from nowhere.[/QUOTE] My theory has meaning. My theory is basing upon the fact of the last two weeks, and how the threads are coupled with HeX's personality and hatred. All I am asking all of you is to open your mind - read what I wrote, because I want you to see it from my eyes. To me, it all makes sense, each single bit. A man turned from his rage in to a destructive mode that manipulates us all as he does so. While I am not envious of your lack of belief, I do understand your words - however, I will stand by what I believe and hope that others can see it as well. Thank you for your replies.

It's not a theory. It's nothing more than mindless speculation. Firstly, you see a relation between exploits simply because the threads about them have been made in a span of two weeks. Then you decide of of thin air that the cause of this relation is somehow Hex. The only reasoning being that Hex is really crazy. The words you use are as though they are from a parody of conspiracy theorists. [QUOTE=tyguy;50463593] Just a coincidence, right? Wrong. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=tyguy;50464850]It has took a lot to look past the facade, but my eyes are open. ... All I am asking all of you is to open your mind ... To me, it all makes sense, each single bit. ... While I am not envious of your lack of belief, I do understand your words - however, I will stand by what I believe and hope that others can see it as well. [/QUOTE] Opening my mind? Making sense to [I]you[/I] personally? Reasoning about [I]envy[/I] of a lack of belief? What is with this emotional and religious language? You're making a factual claim, one that states that Hex is the master mind behind the exploits we've seen in the past two weeks. Such factual claim is to be supported by [B][U]evidence[/U][/B], not wishy washy [U]bullshit[/U] like "[I]to me it makes sense[/I]", "[I]it's not a coincidence[/I]" and "[I]it's hard to look past the facade, but my eyes are open[/I]". We all know hex is crazy, but I have seen no real arguments to even give your claim any serious consideration. Your claim is extraordinary in claiming a mastermind behind everything that is evil in the scripting community. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QlyI5Fl.png[/IMG] inb4 ban, (worth) [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme image, meme reply, says it's worth it" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Moku;50465078][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QlyI5Fl.png[/IMG] inb4 ban, (worth)[/QUOTE] Aha! I can tell you believe in my theory. [QUOTE=FPtje;50465013]It's not a theory. It's nothing more than mindless speculation. Firstly, you see a relation between exploits simply because the threads about them have been made in a span of two weeks. Then you decide of of thin air that the cause of this relation is somehow Hex. The only reasoning being that Hex is really crazy. The words you use are as though they are from a parody of conspiracy theorists. Opening my mind? Making sense to [I]you[/I] personally? Reasoning about [I]envy[/I] of a lack of belief? What is with this emotional and religious language? You're making a factual claim, one that states that Hex is the master mind behind the exploits we've seen in the past two weeks. Such factual claim is to be supported by [B][U]evidence[/U][/B], not wishy washy [U]bullshit[/U] like "[I]to me it makes sense[/I]", "[I]it's not a coincidence[/I]" and "[I]it's hard to look past the facade, but my eyes are open[/I]". We all know hex is crazy, but I have seen no real arguments to even give your claim any serious consideration. Your claim is extraordinary in claiming a mastermind behind everything that is evil in the scripting community. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.[/QUOTE] You're entitled to your opinion.

[QUOTE=tyguy;50465079]You're entitled to your opinion.[/QUOTE] Factual claims are independent of fucking opinions. Without evidence your "theory" is nothing but speculation. Can you convince me that you're right using evidence based reasoning? Can you deliver solid evidence that clearly shows that Hex is connected to the other malicious code threads that you have mentioned?

[QUOTE=FPtje;50465130]Factual claims are independent of fucking opinions. Without evidence your "theory" is nothing but speculation. Can you convince me that you're right using evidence based reasoning? Can you deliver solid evidence that clearly shows that Hex is connected to the other malicious code threads that you have mentioned?[/QUOTE] If I gave you evidence, it wouldn't be a theory.

[QUOTE=tyguy;50465079]Aha! I can tell you believe in my theory. You're entitled to your opinion.[/QUOTE] Inb4 derail ban but last Friday I got into an argument with this substitute teacher because she was trying to persuade the class that the moon landings never happened. When I gave [u]factual[/u] explenations to her claims all I got back was that "you're entitled to your own opinions". [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme reply, backseat modding" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

[QUOTE=tyguy;50465179]If I gave you evidence, it wouldn't be a theory.[/QUOTE] I will decline on discussing your definition of theory. That discussion has been had plenty of times between climate change deniers and evolution deniers on one hand and actual scientists on the other. Instead, for now I will just accept the way you use the word theory: as something not based on evidence. I could argue that "speculation" fits that description [I]much[/I] better, but in essence we agree: the idea that Hex is a mastermind is not based on real evidence. After all, you said that if it was, you would not have called it a theory.

We need, for the sake of the community and it's well being, people on HeX at all times, watching what he's doing. We need to observe his behavior, and note it down, so we can get an idea of what he's planning to do, so when the time does come, we will be ready. I, myself, am honored to be the one to open your eyes. To open your eyes to the truth.

Prophet language aside, I do agree that Hex should be kept an eye on. Every now and then I check whether he has not updated skidcheck to circumvent [url=https://github.com/FPtje/DarkRP/blob/master/gamemode/modules/workarounds/sh_workarounds.lua#L42]the code in DarkRP[/url] that completely fucks it over.

[url]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements[/url] Found this on his profile. I have him as a Steam friend. I don't quite know why, but it is what it is.

[QUOTE=ArcticWinter;50466450][url]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements[/url] Found this on his profile. I have him as a Steam friend. I don't quite know why, but it is what it is.[/QUOTE] [url=http://unitedhosts.org/bar/tmp/hac_changes_2016.lua]Here[/url] on line 2 he states that there never was an exploit to fuck with people computers then 4 line after that he states that he has tried to but "failed", stating "trying to write where it shouldn't, which is not possible". Not possibly my ass, Leystruku did this a month ago.

[QUOTE=FPtje;50466108]Prophet language aside, I do agree that Hex should be kept an eye on. Every now and then I check whether he has not updated skidcheck to circumvent [url=https://github.com/FPtje/DarkRP/blob/master/gamemode/modules/workarounds/sh_workarounds.lua#L42]the code in DarkRP[/url] that completely fucks it over.[/QUOTE] Something we can both agree on. [QUOTE=ArcticWinter;50466450][url]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements[/url] Found this on his profile. I have him as a Steam friend. I don't quite know why, but it is what it is.[/QUOTE] He tries to act like the good guy - not rebinding keys anymore, and after, he denies that his anticheat has exploits. This paints a good image for him, and then makes you believe him. [QUOTE=YourStalker;50466747][url=http://unitedhosts.org/bar/tmp/hac_changes_2016.lua]Here[/url] on line 2 he states that there never was an exploit to fuck with people computers then 4 line after that he states that he has tried to but "failed", stating "trying to write where it shouldn't, which is not possible". Not possibly my ass, Leystruku did this a month ago.[/QUOTE] This furthur adds to the picture - another example of HeX and his dark ways. It's weird how his goonies haven't came yet, to try and deter us again. Maybe he knows that this time there's no escaping. He's been found out.

HeX has already announced that the hammers, explosions and videos have all stopped (As evidenced by myself when someone recently got banned for cheats they were just kicked and that was that.) [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements/detail/932622787937544577"]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements/detail/932622787937544577[/URL] [URL="http://unitedhosts.org/bar/tmp/hac_changes_2016.lua"]http://unitedhosts.org/bar/tmp/hac_changes_2016.lua[/URL] HeX also posted the latest source code of HAC to GitHub, although the whitelists/blacklists have been removed (For obvious reasons) [URL="https://github.com/MFSiNC/HAC/tree/master/v13_2016"]https://github.com/MFSiNC/HAC/tree/master/v13_2016[/URL] I (Honestly) don't think that HeX is a "mastermind" behind all the evil scripts on GMod. I've got to agree with a part of Falcos post though [QUOTE]Exploits have always been prevalent in Gmod scripts[/QUOTE] This is most definitely true there always will be exploits in GMod scripts. From what I can see by (quickly) reading over most of the code related to the banning functions in the latest version of HAC (Link above) it does not seem to use/have any exploits to delete system critical files. RunStringEx("print('hi')", "../../../../ntoskernel.exe") just crashes GMod (As HeX also stated that was for breaking Lua file stealers)

[QUOTE=tyguy;50466882]He's been found out.[/QUOTE] He's been found out when he posted his anticheat on GitHub two years ago, and even before then as well. The reason this is is coming out more now is because the programmers such as yourself have finally heard from their friend (who heard from their friend (who heard from their friend)) that such an anticheat exists. How can you even propose theories about hackers and hacking yet you seem to know nothing about the subject. Dumb "theories" get me too heated, I'll calm down after this I swear.

[QUOTE=YourStalker;50467012]He's been found out when he posted his anticheat on GitHub two years ago, and even before then as well. The reason this is is coming out more now is because the programmers such as yourself have finally heard from their friend (who heard from their friend (who heard from their friend)) that such an anticheat exists. How can you even propose theories about hackers and hacking yet you seem to know nothing about the subject. Dumb "theories" get me too heated, I'll calm down after this I swear.[/QUOTE] He posted the latest version of HAC on GitHub around 4-5 days ago [URL="https://github.com/MFSiNC/HAC/tree/master/v13_2016"]https://github.com/MFSiNC/HAC/tree/master/v13_2016[/URL]

[QUOTE=YourStalker;50467012]He's been found out when he posted his anticheat on GitHub two years ago, and even before then as well. The reason this is is coming out more now is because the programmers such as yourself have finally heard from their friend (who heard from their friend (who heard from their friend)) that such an anticheat exists. How can you even propose theories about hackers and hacking yet you seem to know nothing about the subject. Dumb "theories" get me too heated, I'll calm down after this I swear.[/QUOTE] My theory has nothing to do with his anticheat. It has to do with so much more - if you read the thread, you would have known that. The anticheat is just a small pebble in a big pond. I've known HeX and I have known about his anticheat for years. Do you think it's news to me? Do you think I would make a theory just about his anticheat, when there is so much about it already? This is about HeX. Not his anticheat. Although his anticheat does demonstrate his knowledge of exploits, time and time again. [QUOTE=L33t Tr0jAn;50466969]HeX has already announced that the hammers, explosions and videos have all stopped (As evidenced by myself when someone recently got banned for cheats they were just kicked and that was that.) [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements/detail/932622787937544577"]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnitedHosts#announcements/detail/932622787937544577[/URL] [URL="http://unitedhosts.org/bar/tmp/hac_changes_2016.lua"]http://unitedhosts.org/bar/tmp/hac_changes_2016.lua[/URL] HeX also posted the latest source code of HAC to GitHub, although the whitelists/blacklists have been removed (For obvious reasons) [URL="https://github.com/MFSiNC/HAC/tree/master/v13_2016"]https://github.com/MFSiNC/HAC/tree/master/v13_2016[/URL] I (Honestly) don't think that HeX is a "mastermind" behind all the evil scripts on GMod. I've got to agree with a part of Falcos post though This is most definitely true there always will be exploits in GMod scripts. From what I can see by (quickly) reading over most of the code related to the banning functions in the latest version of HAC (Link above) it does not seem to use/have any exploits to delete system critical files. RunStringEx("print('hi')", "../../../../ntoskernel.exe") just crashes GMod (As HeX also stated that was for breaking Lua file stealers)[/QUOTE] Your attempts to sabotage this thread will not be successful. We know who HeX really is, and nothing you, or anyone can say, can change that now. I have revealed a dark plague in Garry's Mod.. a plague that has yet to arrive. Let's just hope we have the vaccine when it does.

Here's a genuine (Off topic) question, why are 99.99% of hate threads about HAC written by cheaters (Tyguy as an example) Tyguy even posted his cheat on [B][U]HIS OWN[/U][/B] DropBox! [URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45639759/autoupdater.txt"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45639759/autoupdater.txt[/URL]

[QUOTE=L33t Tr0jAn;50467238]Here's a genuine (Off topic) question, why are 99.99% of hate threads about HAC written by cheaters (Tyguy as an example) Tyguy even posted his cheat on [B][U]HIS OWN[/U][/B] DropBox! [URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45639759/autoupdater.txt"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45639759/autoupdater.txt[/URL][/QUOTE] A very, very old version of a badly, badly written cheat. I wrote this years ago. Why do you feel the need to mention my past? What does this have to do with the thread? Another attempt to derail the thread from what matters.

[QUOTE=tyguy;50467257] Another attempt to derail the thread from what matters.[/QUOTE] Does it REALLY matter though? I think you've thought about this far too much.