• Forcing a Player's Mic on?
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In my opinion that shouldn't be allowed. Practically it's like spying, right?
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Pretty sure it runs the command +voicerecord on the user.
Someone released a plugin for it on the ulyssesmod forums, but you can look that up yourself if you want it. I just think it's wrong and should not have even been released to the public...
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[QUOTE=arcaneex;42497474]Pretty sure it runs the command +voicerecord on the user.[/QUOTE] I thought that Garry blacklisted that from :ConCommand and RunConsoleCommand()?
It should be, I remember trying that about two years ago. I was using KEYDOWN server side to activate the players mic because I was stupid.
There's a free version on the Ulysses forums.
[CODE]function ulx.forceMic( calling_ply, target_ply ) target_ply:SendLua("RunConsoleCommand(\"+voicerecord\")") ulx.fancyLogAdmin( calling_ply, "#A forced #T to turn on their mic", target_ply ) end local forceMic = ulx.command( CATEGORY_NAME, "ulx forcemic", ulx.forceMic, "!forcemic" ) forceMic:addParam{ type=ULib.cmds.PlayerArg } forceMic:defaultAccess( ULib.ACCESS_ADMIN ) forceMic:help( "Force a players mic to be turned on." )[/CODE] You're welcome.
I don't really see a legitimate use for this.
[QUOTE=Luni;42506334]I don't really see a legitimate use for this.[/QUOTE] It's to check for ghosting, as I remember. Anyways, in the US, the law is that video recording of a person is okay if you don't tell them, but the second you add audio, you must have a prominently displayed notice of this. I believe this is also true for the UK, but I am not absolutely sure.
[QUOTE=Ghost_Sailor;42506384]It's to check for ghosting, as I remember. Anyways, in the US, the law is that video recording of a person is okay if you don't tell them, but the second you add audio, you must have a prominently displayed notice of this. I believe this is also true for the UK, but I am not absolutely sure.[/QUOTE] Once somebody uses the command it should tell everybody in the chat that the persons mic has been turned on.
[QUOTE=Koolsami7;42506433]Once somebody uses the command it should tell everybody in the chat that the persons mic has been turned on.[/QUOTE] It can't be that. It has to be a notice that they MIGHT be recording audio. It has to be there if they can/do record audio, whether or not they are doing it at that moment. I know these rules because I occasionally install security systems, and audio is such a pain to do legally.
Well if the person(s) that use the code get in legal trouble I am not responsible for it.
[QUOTE=Ghost_Sailor;42506384]It's to check for ghosting, as I remember. Anyways, in the US, the law is that video recording of a person is okay if you don't tell them, but the second you add audio, you must have a prominently displayed notice of this. I believe this is also true for the UK, but I am not absolutely sure.[/QUOTE] Except when you're the NSA :suicide:
no, it's not illegal.
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;42507223]no, it's not illegal.[/QUOTE] Only if you've got T&C that states it.
[QUOTE=Matt555;42507429]Only if you've got T&C that states it.[/QUOTE] lemme rephrase myself prolly, regardless if it isnt or not. no one cares and no one will do anything about it.
Hello guys, I am the creator. I have asked people to include in their motd or loading screen that they are under surveillance. For those that can't see the use, it can be extremely useful for catching ghosters. if people want to abuse it, that is not my concern, however you can abuse a lot of stuff if you would like to. If you think this is morally wrong, then you should take away a cops gun and pepper spray too. When their microphone is on they see it as well, so it is not really spying either. It is not illegal, UNLESS, you are doing it without telling them you are (like in motd or loading screen). I am just the creator of the tool, how people use it, you can't blame me for. And I released it on forums, however I have deleted it since I chose to include it in my ulx pack.
Couldn't a competent player simply -voicerecord and bypass it? I would refuse to play on any server that uses it, though.
[QUOTE=Lost__Alien;42507577]Hello guys, I am the creator. I have asked people to include in their motd or loading screen that they are under surveillance. For those that can't see the use, it can be extremely useful for catching ghosters. if people want to abuse it, that is not my concern, however you can abuse a lot of stuff if you would like to. If you think this is morally wrong, then you should take away a cops gun and pepper spray too. When their microphone is on they see it as well, so it is not really spying either. It is not illegal, UNLESS, you are doing it without telling them you are (like in motd or loading screen). I am just the creator of the tool, how people use it, you can't blame me for. And I released it on forums, however I have deleted it since I chose to include it in my ulx pack.[/QUOTE] Well cops' pepper spray and guns are different to monitoring people's conversations on a GMod server... but we shan't argue here.
[QUOTE=ollie;42497637]I thought that Garry blacklisted that from :ConCommand and RunConsoleCommand()?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Luni;42506334]I don't really see a legitimate use for this.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Trouble in Terror Town Lua]if key == IN_SPEED and ply:IsActiveTraitor() then timer.Simple(0.05, function() RunConsoleCommand("+voicerecord") end) end[/QUOTE]
I do hope you can configure this for admins only to hear, because it might be a little inconsiderate/rather obnoxious, to force ordinary players to listen to some static.
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;42507223]no, it's not illegal.[/QUOTE] I Atually thinks its illegal, if you live in The Usa, if you dont write it in the Motd. Im not completely sure. I just think That users needs to be warned :). [QUOTE=TweaK2007;42497499] I just think it's wrong and should not have even been released to the public...[/QUOTE] I dont think its wrong, if it gets used for the right purpose. I know the version on Ulysses is set to default that only superadmins can use it, so it lower the chances to get abused. Also if there is written in the motd on a TTT server "No Ghosting allowed!" I see no wrong in using a addon like this to insure that people are ghosting so you dont punish a "suspected" person, but can confirm he is breaking the rules which he accepted when he closed the motd window :)
What if you had a TOS that included permission to force voicerecord? :v:
[QUOTE=Walrus Viking;42509948]What if you had a TOS that included permission to force voicerecord? :v:[/QUOTE] Then you would be in the clear, legally. That is, unless you save the recordings or do something else, which gets in to all sorts of other laws.
We can capture player's screens, turn their mic on, etc... wow. Garry's mod is a super spying tool and a wonderful platform for "viruses", gonna make a surveillance addon next.
[QUOTE=MuteTM;42507691]Couldn't a competent player simply -voicerecord and bypass it? I would refuse to play on any server that uses it, though.[/QUOTE] No, the code stated above is a simplified version of my code. Most people who rdm and ghost don't know that command exists even if my code didn't protect from that bypass. [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Walrus Viking;42509948]What if you had a TOS that included permission to force voicerecord? :v:[/QUOTE] If you state the use, then it is fine. As long as they know that you are doing it, and why, it is legal.
Yeah, this could be accomplished easily, just RunConsoleCommand("+voicerecord") on their client. I personally don't agree with this, it's not right and unorthodox to spy on people's microphones, what if they're having a bit of a fap and you turn it on while they're you know..
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