• Server Manager Looking to Work for a Server Host
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So for a probably shitty hud, a few jobs, and setting up addons, you get 20% of the servers revenue? Not to mention access to the server files, and control panel. seems legit.
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[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890538]Not really looking for criticism, constructive or not, but that is clearly not what is only being offered if you had read the whole thing. I will restate it though, to make it more clear for you. 1) I will create your server, and configure it, 2) I will add all huds, addons, and jobs as needed, as well as create custom jobs you want, or custom jobs donators request. 3) I will manage your server on a daily basis, fixing any problems that arise. I will add any job, addon, or anything else you may want in a timely manner. This is all also coming from an experienced server owner, who could potentially even provide advice and guidance towards improving your server. Me doing these things allows the owner to be on the server more to improve the community. By doing all the files, I do an extremely large portion of the work of having a server, as well as help you have more time to use on the server. These things are easily worth 20% of donations, though in my honest opinion it is more worth 30%-40%, as doing these things takes lots of learning, time, and effort, along with constant maintenance. In response to your last argument, doing these things would be impossible without server files and could possibly be done without control panel, but would make it much more difficult. Honestly, it should be expected for a server manager to need these things. Another thing I'd like to point out is yes, I want 20% of donations, which is an excellent deal for many reasons. 1) This adds lots of incentive. Rather than me doing poor work because I get paid $20 on a monthly basis or something of that manner, I get paid based on donations. This way, I will strive to make the server great, so that we can get lots of donations. This incentive is a win for everyone. 2) This does not add another monthly expensive. If we get no donations, no big deal, you will not be charged until me and the server owner have done our jobs well enough to get donations. This makes the whole experience much less stressful. 3) This removes trust from the equation. I don't do all the work, get paid, then abandon you. I stay on the server, make it better, and maintain it well because I want the donations. This way you do not have to trust that I will stay with the server, or do my best work after being paid. Despite your opinion, I think it could easily be argued by myself and many others that this is a very good deal.[/QUOTE] All hail to the wall of text!
[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48889462][B]I do expect 20% of all donations[/B] I will not only make the server, but I will make any jobs, add addons, and do just about anything you need done. [B]I will not pay for the server, or any hosting fees.[/B][/QUOTE] Pretty much what you're saying here is: "pay for my server and then I'll give you 80% of the donations"
[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890538]Not really looking for criticism, constructive or not, but that is clearly not what is only being offered if you had read the whole thing. I will restate it though, to make it more clear for you. 1) I will create your server, and configure it, 2) I will add all huds, addons, and jobs as needed, as well as create custom jobs you want, or custom jobs donators request. 3) I will manage your server on a daily basis, fixing any problems that arise. I will add any job, addon, or anything else you may want in a timely manner. This is all also coming from an experienced server owner, who could potentially even provide advice and guidance towards improving your server. Me doing these things allows the owner to be on the server more to improve the community. By doing all the files, I do an extremely large portion of the work of having a server, as well as help you have more time to use on the server. These things are easily worth 20% of donations, though in my honest opinion it is more worth 30%-40%, as doing these things takes lots of learning, time, and effort, along with constant maintenance. In response to your last argument, doing these things would be impossible without server files and could possibly be done without control panel, but would make it much more difficult. Honestly, it should be expected for a server manager to need these things. Another thing I'd like to point out is yes, I want 20% of donations, which is an excellent deal for many reasons. 1) This adds lots of incentive. Rather than me doing poor work because I get paid $20 on a monthly basis or something of that manner, I get paid based on donations. This way, I will strive to make the server great, so that we can get lots of donations. This incentive is a win for everyone. 2) This does not add another monthly expensive. If we get no donations, no big deal, you will not be charged until me and the server owner have done our jobs well enough to get donations. This makes the whole experience much less stressful. 3) This removes trust from the equation. I don't do all the work, get paid, then abandon you. I stay on the server, make it better, and maintain it well because I want the donations. This way you do not have to trust that I will stay with the server, or do my best work after being paid. Despite your opinion, I think it could easily be argued by myself and many others that this is a very good deal.[/QUOTE] So you're telling me that you'll not only CREATE a custom hud and add your OWN ADDONS but you'll do any jobs i want and on top of that you'll fix any error that happens to arise whether created from your own code or from my mistakes for 20% of donations? I am assuming you're being paid monthly as well. Edit : I'd like to see some of your hud design work and some of the addons you have created whether for personal use of uploaded via scriptfodder hell idc send me a leaked link it doesnt matter i jsut want to see what you've done.
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[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890628]Doing the server file work is the boring part of the server. I would, as stated, not administrate, and would really have no role in the server outside of the files, so it is really in no way "my server", rather, a server that's files and configurations are maintained and created by me, but still the way it is done is decided by the owner, and the community and everything on the server is for the owner to do. This is not my server, I simply do what the owner wants done for them. [editline]12th October 2015[/editline] You did not read that comment, it clearly states, quote, "his adds lots of incentive. Rather than me doing poor work because I get paid $20 on a monthly basis or something of that manner, I get paid based on donations." Also, I will not be making MY OWN addons, rather putting already created addons that the owner wants on the server on the server.[/QUOTE] Why would i pay you to download a developers addon or install something and PAY you to do it when if i need help i can ask the developer of said addon who i bought it from to help me for FREE. TCB has a job creating tool on his website among many other free things as well to get people started and on top of that Facepunch here can help me LEARN to code myself for FREE. Its like eating out at a food joint and you're the guy whos telling people they can tip you 20% of what they paid for food to throw there food away and put there tray where it belongs.... edit: The funniest thing is that whenever someone leaves there email or skype details in the OP you can already assume that the person is full of crap
[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890628]Also, I will not be making MY OWN addons, rather putting already created addons that the owner wants on the server on the server.[/QUOTE] Oh, looks like I misread as well. Let me rephrase what I said: "give me 20% of donations for dragging files around and writing tables" EDIT: almost forgot editing config files! man, I wish I could do that...
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[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890711]I really am not interested in criticisms.[/QUOTE] We don't really care if you're "interesting in criticisms" or not. You posted on a public forum with a total scam and we're here to tell you off. [QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890711]Managing server files is hard, time consuming work.[/QUOTE] Oh man, tell me about it! The hours I have wasted dragging and dropping addon folders, creating DarkRP jobs, and editing configuration files. It's just so difficult and confusing! If only there was some kind soul who would do it for me for only 20% of my donations... [QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890711]This is especially true when you are new to making a server, and would have to learn to do all these things from scratch.[/QUOTE] If you can't drag and drop files or edit text documents then you shouldn't be running a server.
[QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890711]I really am not interested in criticisms.[/QUOTE] Welcome to the internet Second of all, why not just go and join a community instead of sitting here taking all this criticism? I mean all you have to do is find a server you like and get to know the community, it's a lot more formal and convenient for the server owner and also you get to see in greater detail what you want from this. In the end all it is, is that you are fulfilling a self-initiated prophecy by helping those that need you.
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If you don't want to learn how to install/fix/create things, and hire someone else to do the job, i don't think that the server will be good. You cannot do anything without the dev, you pay for the server and to the dev. So you will pay alot of money but get alot of less use. How do we know, if 5 guys hire you, how will you keep up with the 5 servers? How do we know you can be trusted with our servers?
[QUOTE=SteppuFIN;48890788]If you don't want to learn how to install/fix/create things, and hire someone else to do the job, i don't think that the server will be good. You cannot do anything without the dev, you pay for the server and to the dev. So you will pay alot of money but get alot of less use. How do we know, if 5 guys hire you, how will you keep up with the 5 servers? How do we know you can be trusted with our servers?[/QUOTE] He simply drags and drops addons and edits text files. If he needs lua help he'll probably post here or attempt to contact the Dev who made the script. Edit : Hes already admitted it to it although not directly. [QUOTE=CobaltGecko;48890628] I would, as stated, not administrate, and would really have no role in the server outside of the files, so it is really in no way "my server", rather, a server that's [B]files and configurations[/B] are maintained and created by me, but still the way it is done is decided by the owner, and the community and everything on the server is for the owner to do. Also, [B]I will not be making MY OWN addons, rather putting already created addons that the owner wants on the server on the server.[/B] I do not believe I stated anywhere that I would be "creating" and putting in my "own addons" as you have said in your comment. However, if I did somewhere accidentally, that information is incorrect and I am sorry.[/QUOTE] Never heard of how difficult maintaining config files are considering they never change except when you want to change them Edit: Last post/edit : he is pretty much saying, I'm a scammer whos looking to prey off of people who don't know any better but if you do know better i don't want to hear what you have to say because my post doesn't appeal to the knowledgeable.
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