I signed up for Computer Programming 1, instead I get CP1-where-I'll-learn-Fundamntls

[cas97]

In unrelated news, I've used the maximum length for my title.
And she knows what she's talking about instead of like in 8th where tech ed (like had a CNC and stuff for engineering and energy and a robot and other awesome stuff) that turned into 'HEY LET'S PLAY FLASH GAMES' class.

[editline]02:01PM[/editline]

and we won't touch programming.
although maybe BASIC

[editline]02:02PM[/editline]

EDIT: I meant to say IT Fundamentals

[NovembrDobby]

sorry what's this thread all about? you signed up for what, where

[blankthemuffin]

Nobody cares.

[compwhiziitothe]

[QUOTE=cas97;18287462]In unrelated news, I've used the maximum length for my title.
And she knows what she's talking about instead of like in 8th where tech ed (like had a CNC and stuff for engineering and energy and a robot and other awesome stuff) that turned into 'HEY LET'S PLAY FLASH GAMES' class.

[editline]02:01PM[/editline]

and we won't touch programming.
although maybe BASIC

[editline]02:02PM[/editline]

EDIT: I meant to say IT Fundamentals[/QUOTE]

What?

[luck_or_loss]

study it on your own time

[djzwicblaze]

school's don't teach you shit when it comes to computer (imo at least), just learn on your own.

[hypershadsy]

It was advertised: Open up a computer, install hardware and the appropriate drivers. Learn about the inner workings of a computer.

I got: Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint tutorial for complete dumbasses.

[MultiPurpose]

So you're in 8th grade and what?

Anyway, you're lucky, I never had even one computer science class available to me in school.

[Nick99]

I signed up for IT in my school. It's complete bullshit. The teacher is a fat weirdo with a limp and all he does is get mad at us and give these stupid assessments about word.

[cas97]

no I'm in 9th and it said I'd learn programming. I didn't really expect basic, or lisp

[Clavus]

My Computer Science teacher on high school was pretty cool. He let us mess around with java and Game Maker (although I knew more about it than him). Even the mandatory stuff, like databases, was very informative.

[Robber]

[QUOTE=djzwicblaze;18288285]school's don't teach you shit when it comes to computer (imo at least), just learn on your own.[/QUOTE]
We learned about how to configure Cisco routers; about networking and routing in general; the different OSI layers and what they do; C, C++, Java; SQL (with Oracle); different useful algorithms for stuff like sorting and the concept of recursion and much more.
We could even get the SCJP certificate (91% :smug:) and an Oracle certificate.

Anyway, my point is that it's just [I]some[/I] schools that are as bad as your school or cas97's school.

[Skipcast]

[QUOTE=cas97;18288536]no I'm in 9th[/QUOTE]

Because that makes all the difference in the world. :downs:

[gbtygfvyg]

[QUOTE=cas97;18288536]no I'm in 9th and it said I'd learn programming. I didn't really expect basic, or lisp[/QUOTE]

Why don't you get a schedule change freshman?

[PvtCupcakes]

My CS121 teacher is a complete dick. He takes points off my god-like programs for the most retarded things ever.

-3 For not declaring your variables at the beginning of the method.

IT'S GOD DAMN JAVA
I do this for a living, bitch.

[editline]07:21PM[/editline]

He's just jealous that I have a real programming job that he doesn't know I have.

[efeX]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18307394]My CS121 teacher is a complete dick. He takes points off my god-like programs for the most retarded things ever.

-3 For not declaring your variables at the beginning of the method.

IT'S GOD DAMN JAVA
I do this for a living, bitch.

[editline]07:21PM[/editline]

He's just jealous that I have a real programming job that he doesn't know I have.[/QUOTE]

doesn't matter if YOU think it should be done that way, do it the way he teaches it and you won't have problems, even if you think it's wrong, he doesn't care.

[Wyzard]

[QUOTE=efeX;18308859]even if you think it's wrong, he doesn't care.[/QUOTE]
Therein lies the problem.

[JohnEdwards]

uhh welcome to the real world, no one will force you to do work it is up to you to learn and do it. I am in ITN 106 & 107 the are so out of date and stupid but I gotta take them anyway just ace the easy shit and get your gpa high

[and]

i loved my computer science class, we just learned simple java stuff.. 2 friends and i blew through a weeklong assignment on the first day (and went above and beyond the requirements), and then had a competition to see who could come up with the most complex program by the end of the week

i'm also in a computer servicing class right now, typical activities include dismantling broken hard drives and watching them spin up without the cover, and taking apart CD drives to watch the disk spin completely unprotected

[Benji]

You can't really expect to get a huge amount out of a High School level programming class anyway.

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18307394]
-3 For not declaring your variables at the beginning of the method.
[/QUOTE]

Explain to him why it's better to have variables declared (and defined) right before usage, instead of at the beginning of the method. My teacher used to prefer that, too, until I explained it to him (oh, the irony).

[MetricMoose]

I have an IT class next semester and I recently noticed Visual Basic 6 is installed on the computers :|
Visual Basic Express 2008 is free... Why would they use the old version? Lack of updated teaching material? Bullshit, Microsoft has material ON THEIR WEBSITE for this sort of thing!

[floatRand]

[QUOTE=benjgvps;18316184]I have an IT class next semester and I recently noticed Visual Basic 6 is installed on the computers :|
Visual Basic Express 2008 is free... Why would they use the old version? Lack of updated teaching material? Bullshit, Microsoft has material ON THEIR WEBSITE for this sort of thing![/QUOTE]

It's quite common. Most don't want to bother to update. Computers in our school have old version of Dev-Cpp. And installing Code::Blocks would be violating the rules for using computers.

[PvtCupcakes]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18314389]Explain to him why it's better to have variables declared (and defined) right before usage, instead of at the beginning of the method. My teacher used to prefer that, too, until I explained it to him (oh, the irony).[/QUOTE]

I'd have to spend all day explaining stuff to him. He takes points off for other stupid things.

I had a loop like this:

for(int i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
  String line = in.nextLine();
  if(line == null)
    break;
}

And I lost points because my loop wasn't like this:

String line = "";
for(int i = 0; i < 5 && line != null; i++) {
  line = in.nextLine();
}

:raise:

I also had a variable (char c), and I lost points because the name wasn't descriptive enough. From what I've seen c is a pretty standard name for chars.

[editline]10:58AM[/editline]

Maybe he knows that I read slashdot during the entire class instead of listening to him?

[Archive]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18316435]I'd have to spend all day explaining stuff to him. He takes points off for other stupid things.

I had a loop like this:

for(int i = 0; i < 5; i++) 
{
  String line = in.nextLine();
  if(line == null)
    break;
}

And I lost points because my loop wasn't like this:

String line = "";
for(int i = 0; i < 5 && line != null; i++)
{
  line = in.nextLine();
}

:raise:

I also had a variable (char c), and I lost points because the name wasn't descriptive enough. From what I've seen c is a pretty standard name for chars.

[editline]10:58AM[/editline]

Maybe he knows that I read slashdot during the entire class instead of listening to him?[/QUOTE]

Friggin brackets on the function line.

[PvtCupcakes]

It's a Java thing. :v:

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18316435]
I had a loop like this:

for(int i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
  String line = in.nextLine();
  if(line == null)
    break;
}

And I lost points because my loop wasn't like this:

String line = "";
for(int i = 0; i < 5 && line != null; i++) {
  line = in.nextLine();
}

:raise:
[/QUOTE]

If he's going to be annoying like that, throw this at him:

String line = "";
for (int i = 0; i < 5 && line != null; ++i, line = in.nextLine());

Also, your original loop is more logically correct.

[efeX]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18317350]It's a Java thing. :v:[/QUOTE]

really? it won't compile if you don't put braces on the statement line? thanks for the info

[PvtCupcakes]

[QUOTE=efeX;18319236]really? it won't compile if you don't put braces on the statement line? thanks for the info[/QUOTE]

Most Java programmers do that, but you don't have to.
It'll compile either way.

[compwhiziitothe]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18317427]If he's going to be annoying like that, throw this at him:

String line = "";
for (int i = 0; i < 5 && line != null; ++i, line = in.nextLine());

Also, your original loop is more logically correct.[/QUOTE]

Nice.