Right now, I don't really have a set career choice, but I would like to become a doctor (Even though my family is dirt poor)I spend 99 percent of my time on the computer either on the internet or gaming. As you can see, I really like computers. If I wanted to work with video games (Quite possibly a video game programmer? Not a designer, I can't design or create worth shit :v:) where would I have to start? I'm a senior in high school so I still have to pick a college to go to. What are a few language codes I'd have to work with and are there some that I could self teach myself to make college somewhat easier? I'd want to work in a bigger industry for a little bit then go to indie gaming if it has a better calling for me.
Read up on C++.
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[QUOTE=Nexus435;34334450]Read up on C++.[/QUOTE]
And grab several books, and read them cover to cover, many times.
Well, if you're wanting to become a programmer, read up on C++, you're not going to be an amazing coder straight away, so just start on little things like "Hello world" or making a little ball roll around in an engine.
But saying "I want to work with video games" is a very big wish, usually the hours a terrible, you don't spend your time playing games, you spend time making them. There's a HUGE difference between playing games and making them.
But it's all up to you, everything takes alot of time and practice.
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Oh and indie game comapanies are pretty shit, most of them won't pay you at all till the games released (also depends if it sells alright)
From what I've heard game programming jobs are pretty horrible.
Especially when you're nearing the release date, you're probably going to be sleeping in the office and putting in 15 hour days. And they're pretty much slave drivers, and it's generally more stressful than other programming jobs.
I'd get a programming job that lets me at least go home at night.
I think it has a lot to do with it being in the entertainment industry, and the nature of big AAA titles and multi-million dollar advertising campaigns. If you work for a small development company that makes custom accounting software for some other corporation then the deadlines aren't so unrealistic.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34335305]From what I've heard game programming jobs are pretty horrible.
Especially when you're nearing the release date, you're probably going to be sleeping in the office and putting in 15 hour days. And they're pretty much slave drivers, and it's generally more stressful than other programming jobs.
I'd get a programming job that lets me at least go home at night.
I think it has a lot to do with it being in the entertainment industry, and the nature of big AAA titles and multi-million dollar advertising campaigns. If you work for a small development company that makes custom accounting software for some other corporation then the deadlines aren't so unrealistic.[/QUOTE]
Nothing gets the bitches like being the author of AccountProSoft 2012!
[QUOTE=MCPeePants;34335740]Nothing gets the bitches like being the author of AccountProSoft 2012![/QUOTE]
well if bitches is what is looking for, he should probably not be a programmer.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;34335763]well if bitches is what is looking for, he should probably not be a programmer.[/QUOTE]
Hey, putting food on the table's a good start.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;34335763]well if bitches is what is looking for, he should probably not be a programmer.[/QUOTE]
You need to be a linux user to get bitches.
I understand these jokes, thats a start right? :v:
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And what are some good C++ starting books?
I really like [url]http://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-Days-5th/dp/0672327112/[/url].
And since you're a high school senior you can go and register yourself on [url]https://www.dreamspark.com/[/url] which is made and payed for students like you from Microsoft. Go and grab yourself Visual Studio 2010 Professional and then get the free 90-day site access to the professional development training site: [url]http://www.pluralsight-training.net/microsoft/[/url] which has 2 modules of video on C++.
[QUOTE=mr apple;34334853]Well, if you're wanting to become a programmer, read up on C++, you're not going to be an amazing coder straight away, so just start on little things like "Hello world" or making a little ball roll around in an engine.
But saying "I want to work with video games" is a very big wish, usually the hours a terrible, you don't spend your time playing games, you spend time making them. There's a HUGE difference between playing games and making them.
But it's all up to you, everything takes alot of time and practice.
[editline]22nd January 2012[/editline]
Oh and indie game comapanies are pretty shit, most of them won't pay you at all till the games released (also depends if it sells alright)[/QUOTE]
I heard that valve treats their employees amazingly, so this probably doesn't apply to all companies.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34338075]I heard that valve treats their employees amazingly, so this probably doesn't apply to all companies.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, valve is totally an indie company
Well you can say the same for a lot of other jobs.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34338075]I heard that valve treats their employees amazingly, so this probably doesn't apply to all companies.[/QUOTE]
Programmer heaven?
If you want to be involved in the pleasant part of game creation, learn art.
[QUOTE=Topgamer7;34334807]And grab several books, and read them cover to cover, many times.[/QUOTE]
If you fold the book the right way, ur done in no time :).
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34338075]I heard that valve treats their employees amazingly, so this probably doesn't apply to all companies.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure where Valve gets their employees considering lots of their programmers Majored in things like Law, etc. Some of them did Minor in Game Design though.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;34353027]I'm not sure where Valve gets their employees considering lots of their programmers Majored in things like Law, etc. Some of them did Minor in Game Design though.[/QUOTE]
Just because they majored in something, doesn't mean that they can't have a hobby. You prove you're good at something, and devoted, you can probably get a job.
[QUOTE=Topgamer7;34353189]Just because they majored in something, doesn't mean that they can't have a hobby. You prove you're good at something, and devoted, you can probably get a job.[/QUOTE]
Oh definitely, but it makes me wonder if most of their employees applied specifically for Valve or if Valve chose them? I know some modders have been hired onto Valve, but they don't have a lot of employees and they make more profit per employee than Google or Apple.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;34353290]Oh definitely, but it makes me wonder if most of their employees applied specifically for Valve or if Valve chose them? I know some modders have been hired onto Valve, but they don't have a lot of employees and they make more profit per employee than Google or Apple.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to compare a company with a specific genre to two companies that operate on a much larger market.
However I'm sure that Valve chooses its employees carefully ;)
I've not heard much about Programming but what I've heard from my uncle its pretty frustrating, most of his time is spent talking it through for weeks then in the end sending it off to India to be programmed elsewhere usually coming back with problems, not sure if this is the gaming side of programming though.
[QUOTE=ScaryNeko;34355698]what I've heard from my uncle its pretty frustrating, most of his time is spent talking it through for weeks then in the end sending it off to India[/QUOTE]
don't listen to your uncle
[QUOTE=ScaryNeko;34355698]I've not heard much about Programming but what I've heard from my uncle its pretty frustrating, most of his time is spent talking it through for weeks then in the end sending it off to India to be programmed elsewhere usually coming back with problems, not sure if this is the gaming side of programming though.[/QUOTE]
Your uncle is an idiot.
We send our jobs to Japan.
Japan??
[QUOTE=MCPeePants;34335740]Nothing gets the bitches like being the author of AccountProSoft 2012![/QUOTE]
Developing software for enterprise customers has many advantages in my experience. They have more technical knowledge, they do their own testing, they can do bug reports, there's no (mainstream) marketing, etc, etc. One even gave us awesome Swiss breakfast (it's a Swiss bank) because they were very satisfied with our product.
Programmers get lots of money in senior roles in the UK. I know people in the industry.
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[QUOTE=ScaryNeko;34355698]I've not heard much about Programming but what I've heard from my uncle its pretty frustrating, most of his time is spent talking it through for weeks then in the end sending it off to India to be programmed elsewhere usually coming back with problems, not sure if this is the gaming side of programming though.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much stopped these days.
India has a major brain drain problem because there aren't enough high paying programming jobs so all the moderately wealthy and smart Indian programmers are going to other countries to get their degree and they don't go back to India for a job.
Pretty much all that's left in India are the programmers who probably shouldn't be.
Employers have mostly figured out that if they want something high quality they need to hire American/European programmers.
I see a bunch of Indian kids at my university in the CS department and they all speak Indian.
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