[QUOTE=blown25;29597313][url=http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html]alot.[/url][/QUOTE]
Anyway, I would guess that the VM is left with most of the optimization and that the compiler just does some basic stuff, so it won't really be of significance.
Unless you mean in terms of time and memory usage of the compiler, not the outputted bytecode. In that case, dunno.
[QUOTE=q3k;29597844]Sun Java (javac).[/QUOTE]
ok thanks
If you mean the best ide, then I like Eclipse
[QUOTE=OrYgin;29597601]C#[/QUOTE]
I remember when this joke was actually kinda witty.
[QUOTE=ZeekyHBomb;29597967]Anyway, I would guess that the VM is left with most of the optimization and that the compiler just does some basic stuff, so it won't really be of significance.[/QUOTE]
Judging by the bytecode I've looked at (compiled by Eclipse), this is very true. The bytecode is a simple and straightforward translation of the source code.
Blown, you can't even code lua and it's simple as shit. You should probably keep practicing languages with simple syntax before trying a C based language
[QUOTE=c-unitV2;29698536]Blown, you can't even code lua and it's simple as shit. You should probably keep practicing languages with simple syntax before trying a C based language[/QUOTE]
I happen to think (and this might be just me) that things like python and lua are way more difficult to start with than java. The syntax as seems sort of confusing to a non-coder, at least it did to me, I like the fact that in other languages you have to do things a certain way and everything has it's own place.
Also it puzzles me when people say there's like an evolution of languages to learn,
"Well, first you wanna learn x, then when you've got that down you can learn y. Once you've done that learn z because that's in right now."
"Right, well right can't I write this program I want to write in x then if I've already learned it?"
"No, don't be silly, you'll look like a proper dickhead. No one uses x anyway."
I'm not saying people shouldn't know multiple languages. If you think that's what I'm saying, that isn't what I'm saying. But these are the kind of conversations I end up having with people on my Comp Sci course who after 1 and a half semesters think they're Mark Zuckerberg and get annoyed at the course because it isn't advanced enough. These people are always not very good at the course.
[b]On topic[/b]: If by compiler you meant IDE, which I think you did, then I like Eclipse. If you're just learning you might want to go with something much simpler that doesn't autocomplete for you (so you learn to look things up) - in that case I recommend BlueJ. People might tell you not to use it, and they'll all be valid reasons - just they won't necessarily be applicable to you. There's a reason they use it for teaching.
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