EDIT: ------------------------------------------ I have been called out on my mistakes and i can accept them. So this post is just a wast of time at this point. Sorry for wasting your guys time -------------------------------
Holy s***t i cant stand stackoverflow right now.
I am currently trying to get from c to c++ and for me it hasnt been the best journey so far.
I used to go on stackoverflow a lot but since i started doing c++ stuff i just cant.
If you ever posted something on stackoverflow you know how strict its quality standard is, which i can respect, however i recently came into contact with the sheer amount of people
that abuse the vote system.
Since Im just trying to go from old c functions to newer c++ stuff, all my programs usually have 1 or 2 c++ beginner mistakes that hint to me still trying to code like I was back when i was using c.
On stackoverflow some people that are "professionals" get triggered by these mistakes and down vote my post, without giving an answer, which has already let to the closure of one of my accounts ( not closed just with too much negative rep = it doesn't want you questions anymore. I had alot of positive reputation on that account as well ( about 4* the negative rep ), however the algorithm that decides if it wants to accept more questions from you doesn't care about that apparently).
Now my 2nd account already has negative rep, even tough i tried very hard to follow all the guidelines. Ive only posed a few questions and none of them got answered, only spammed with negative rep. All of those contained beginners mistakes.
I dont care how "professional" stack overflow wants to be, the user base should still accept beginners mistakes and not burn the posts to the ground until the writer has to delete them, just so it doesnt get worse.
And if you get a reply its most of the time a comment that asks you to give him a completely useless piece of information that doesn't help in any way and is not even used in the solution ( for example: You are having a problem with a class and its functions and someone wants to see your main even though the compiler is screaming about something in a class function )
In contrast we have this forum which, sometimes after a day ( due to me not being in a timezone where all the users are online ), always seemed to deliver an answer at some point and i could rely to users, while sometimes harshly, reminding me of my beginners mistakes.
This is what stack overflow should have. (not the harshness but professional and consistent answers from users that arent afraid to call you out on every mistake you made in your program ).
With an easily exploitable voting system, a sometimes lowkey toxic userbase and posts that get burried easily, I simply cant see how stackoverflow is considered the #1 programming forum on the internet. Id rather post 1000 posts on facepunch that 2 on stackoverflow.
Now since I mainly make test programs for a game i want to make, I also tried the Game Development forums by stack exchange but they just never had anyone respond within 2 days. But thats a "rant" for another day.
Now I hope you didn't mind me dropping my opinion on stackoverflow on here. It used to be a decent source of information but ever since i started with c++ it has become a sh*thole.
This was my first rant and I dont even know if im allowed to post this in the dev forums, but i didnt see a rule thread and there is a Icon for it so...here you go!
Please give me you opinions!
They mostly downvote questions which has been answered before. Users are too lazy to use search engines.
I'm 99.999999999% sure that this is your case judging by your posts history on facepunch.
Also if you don't like some website/forum, there is no need to post about it on other forums.
You have also been spamming this subforum with your questions (there is general thread for question, but you keep making new threads for each single question).
[QUOTE=Nicolas;51249096]They mostly downvote questions which has been answered before. Users are too lazy to use search engines.
I'm 99.999999999% sure that this is your case judging by your posts history on facepunch.
Also if you don't like some website/forum, there is no need to post about it on other forums.
You have also been spamming this subforum with your questions (there is general thread for question, but you keep making new threads for each single question).[/QUOTE]
Last post I made outside the "What do you need help with post" was 2 weeks ago and that was about books. The last programming related post i made outside the megathread was in august. Im not spamming the forum. Get your facts straight.
And I only post in stackoverflow after ive tried looking it up on google and havent found a suitable answer.
some questions you're asking are basically asking people to debug your code, and I've also found the answer (on stackoverflow) to some of the questions you're asking by googling them - and these aren't the one's you've deleted, which means those were likely worse
just get better at googling & ask your 'debug my code' questions on a site like FP
I'm not too surprised. If it's a beginner mistake, it has been done before and fixed too, so use search functionality to find the solution. SO does not like duplicate questions since all they do is shit up the place and potentially hide actually good questions. Imagine if every beginner started flooding SO with questions about their code where all they forgot was a semicolon or other silly thing. Getting rid of duplicate questions reduces fragmentation and helps people actually find answers.
At this point I'd imagine SO has answer to pretty much every beginner mistake in a relatively popular technology or language.
If you hit a snag, spend some time researching before asking.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51249462]I'm not too surprised. If it's a beginner mistake, it has been done before and fixed too, so use search functionality to find the solution. SO does not like duplicate questions since all they do is shit up the place and potentially hide actually good questions. Imagine if every beginner started flooding SO with questions about their code where all they forgot was a semicolon or other silly thing. Getting rid of duplicate questions reduces fragmentation and helps people actually find answers.
At this point I'd imagine SO has answer to pretty much every beginner mistake in a relatively popular technology or language.
If you hit a snag, spend some time researching before asking.[/QUOTE]
Alright. Sorry for wasting your guys time with this.
[QUOTE=MoustacheSpy;51251777]Alright. Sorry for wasting your guys time with this.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry about it, just try to look things up first in the future. You'll probably get a lot faster at it with practice, too.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;51251899]Don't worry about it, just try to look things up first in the future. You'll probably get a lot faster at it with practice, too.[/QUOTE]
I am actually looking things up. I only post when i cant find something that works for me. However I should probably just keep trying until i find something rather than stop after i found 2 posts that didnt work.
[QUOTE=MoustacheSpy;51251982]I am actually looking things up. I only post when i cant find something that works for me. However I should probably just keep trying until i find something rather than stop after i found 2 posts that didnt work.[/QUOTE]
Thanks to lots of beginner questions floating around and staying unanswered (:wink:), you're probably looking more towards five to ten results you'll have to check on average.
It also helps to break down the problem as much as possible, since you very rarely find anything that fits perfectly for your given problem.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;51251996]Thanks to lots of beginner questions floating around and staying unanswered (:wink:), you're probably looking more towards five to ten results you'll have to check on average.
It also helps to break down the problem as much as possible, since you very rarely find anything that fits perfectly for your given problem.[/QUOTE]
Ok thank you ;)
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