Reskinning models that are not original source models. - Developers

Im trying to get into this whole skinning thing. Ive done some tutorials ,but they`re not helping me reskin this one model. [B]Here`s what im doing. Open VTF file in VTF EDIT Export as PNG to desktop Use PAINT to add a dot on the boob just to check if it shows up ingame. (Jill nude model) Save -- Import back into VTF EDIT Save as [Jill_body] Overwrite. Something goes terribly wrong during this process... [/B]:rolleyes: In-game all i can see of the model is the head and hands. What am i doing wrong? Is the texture to complex? Does the conversion mess things up? Some help would be useful here. [B][U]Here`s the error i get spammed in the console after spawning it.[/U][/B] [CODE]Material models/jill_nude/jill_body does not support vertex format used by the mesh (maybe missing fields or mismatched vertex compression?), mesh will not be rendered. Grab a programmer! M[/CODE] Yes nude reskin bla bla. Im actualy trying to add some clothes(very thin clothes though) to that model. Cant have nude girls running around in my movies. :quagmire: The texture is kinda high resolution so that may be whats messing the process up ,i simply dont know. I have not done anything to the model itself... Simply messed around with the original VTF. Help :rolleyes:

This is a bad way of doing things. First, by converting to png and back there is a loss of quality, also when saving the image something probably goes wrong (as well as if there was an alpha channel it got lost too). In photoshop there are a lot of settings on export to vtf, maybe here you didnt notice them, or they were chosen for you (wrongly ofcourse). I recommend Photoshop with vtf plugin for those kinds of things. Also, adding clothes by editing skin textures will result in poor looks. Try adding them by modelling them (although this will probably be very hard for you if youre a beginner).

If you don't want nude women why are you USING a nude model?!

[QUOTE]This is a bad way of doing things. First, by converting to png and back there is a loss of quality, also when saving the image something probably goes wrong (as well as if there was an alpha channel it got lost too). In photoshop there are a lot of settings on export to vtf, maybe here you didnt notice them, or they were chosen for you (wrongly ofcourse). I recommend Photoshop with vtf plugin for those kinds of things. Also, adding clothes by editing skin textures will result in poor looks. Try adding them by modelling them (although this will probably be very hard for you if youre a beginner). [/QUOTE] I dont care how it looks. Why does everything have to be so fucking hard? [QUOTE]If you don't want nude women why are you USING a nude model?! [/QUOTE] The rest of the model`s fine. I just need to re-texture it

I'm pretty positive that what is causing your problem is the "Auto Create VMT file" is checked in your VTFedit, this means when you save its overwriting the VTF [b]and[/b] the VMT. By default, Auto VMT is setting the shader to "Lightmappedgeneric" which is the wrong shader for models. I assume your model VMT had a bunch of other stuff (like bumpmap, spec, ect ect) so its best to try to find the original VMT from your download or wherever you got it from and swap it back in.

[QUOTE=StopMotion20;32989185]I dont care how it looks. Why does everything have to be so fucking hard?[/QUOTE] Actually by using Photoshop things would be easier... And if you are satisfied with only editing textures then its ok I guess.

[QUOTE]I'm pretty positive that what is causing your problem is the "Auto Create VMT file" is checked in your VTFedit, this means when you save its overwriting the VTF and the VMT. By default, Auto VMT is setting the shader to "Lightmappedgeneric" which is the wrong shader for models. I assume your model VMT had a bunch of other stuff (like bumpmap, spec, ect ect) so its best to try to find the original VMT from your download or wherever you got it from and swap it back in. [/QUOTE] Turned off Auto VMT ,but it still doesn`t work. The werid thing is... I tried re-installing the addon and its still messed up. What heck did i do? :pwn: This model does have 4 body groups though. 2 of them still work. I export the VTF file to PNG. After my texture work is done i try to load the image back into VTFedit. then im greeted with "options". I do not understand ANY of the stuff i can change. Tried turned every option off ,but i realy dont know what im doing.. :rolleyes: I`ll buy photoshop if you guys think its easier. :yarr:

Have you tried with GIMP? It doesnt support alpha channels though... [url]http://www.gimp.org/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jinx786;33006621]Have you tried with GIMP? It doesnt support alpha channels though... [url]http://www.gimp.org/[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah, there is that "RGB transparent pixel destruction" thing that is bloody irritating... a lot of people on the Valve Developer Community have wrote about it: [quote][url=http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/GIMP]GIMP's developers consider the alpha channel to represent transparency, and are not interested in supporting other uses of it. This means that GIMP is quite happy to destroy or ignore RGB color data in pixels with 0% alpha, creating horrendous problems in most 3D engines: When the alpha channel is not being used for transparency, visible image data is replaced by jagged-edged areas of pure black When alpha is transparency, semi-black borders appear around the edges of materials with sharp edges (a result of realtime GPU filtering) Fortunately, so long as Layer masks are used the only operation known to trigger the problem in current versions of GIMP (future releases may be different!) is "Merge Layers". As a workaround, consider using "New from Visible" instead.[/url] [/quote] [quote][url=http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Alpha]Note:Some graphics editors (such as Photoshop Elements) will not be able to save alpha into TGA format. Some free alternatives that are able to save 32-Bit alpha TGA are Paint.Net and TOTGA32. Don't bother with The Gimp... it won't work.[/url][/quote] [quote][url=http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$translucent#Filtering_borders](Unfortunately for users of The GIMP, the program will automatically remove colour information for pixels with an alpha of zero whenever layers are combined. The developers are aware of the the problems such behavior creates but do not intend to change it.) [/url][/quote] There is a recent work around but I haven't tested it: [url]http://code.google.com/p/gimp-vtf/[/url] [QUOTE=StopMotion20;33005257]Tried turned every option off ,but i realy dont know what im doing.. :rolleyes: I`ll buy photoshop if you guys think its easier. :yarr:[/QUOTE] If you want to know more about material creation check this out: [url]http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Material_Creation[/url] But for about 80% of the stuff you make, simply leaving it as "normal format: DXT1, Alpha Format: DXT5, mipmaps checked" is fine. If you are absolutely at a loss, PM me.