Light_environment not working

[Nask]

Hello, i have problem with my Light_environment. It doesnt update, i have deleted, remade and used voodoo magicks but it still doesnt update. It just shows old settings of Light_environment, i only have 1 Light_environment. Check for problems doesnt show anything.

Here is the compile log:

** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (May 19 2009)
2 threads
materialPath: d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\materials
Loading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.vmf
Patching WVT material: maps/citytestlight/nature/blendrubbledirt001a_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/citytestlight/nature/blenddirtgrass001a_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 3026 detail faces...done (1)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
Creating default LDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day03_06*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Creating default HDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day03_06*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges.
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (842941 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 6307 texinfos to 3764
Reduced 87 texdatas to 69 (2339 bytes to 1699)
Writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
3 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -fast -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (May 19 2009)
fastvis = true
2 threads
reading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
reading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.prt
 648 portalclusters
2082 numportals
BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Optimized: 9994 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 326536
Average clusters visible: 503
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 636
visdatasize:106612  compressed from 114048
writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -bounce 2 -noextra -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (May 19 2009)

      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[48 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (2.40 seconds)
12430 faces
15 degenerate faces
1060569 square feet [152722000.00 square inches]
319 Displacements
117768 Square Feet [16958730.00 Square Inches]
12415 patches before subdivision
zero area child patch
zero area child patch
375181 patches after subdivision
sun extent from map=0.000000
61 direct lights
BuildFacelights:     0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (79)
BuildVisLeafs:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (243)
transfers 94892415, max 3351
transfer lists: 724.0 megs
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)
	Bounce #1 added RGB(156332, 140879, 77666)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)
	Bounce #2 added RGB(20865, 16985, 6891)
Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.2957 sec>
FinalLightFace:      0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (19)
FinalLightFace Done
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (18)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

Object names       Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness 
------------       ---------------  ---------------  -------- 
models                   3/1024          144/49152    ( 0.3%) 
brushes               2454/8192        29448/98304    (30.0%) 
brushsides           17805/65536      142440/524288   (27.2%) 
planes                8478/65536      169560/1310720  (12.9%) 
vertexes             21095/65536      253140/786432   (32.2%) 
nodes                 1618/65536       51776/2097152  ( 2.5%) 
texinfos              3764/12288      271008/884736   (30.6%) 
texdata                 69/2048         2208/65536    ( 3.4%) 
dispinfos              319/0           56144/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_verts            8647/0          172940/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_tris            11360/0           22720/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_lmsamples      313296/0          313296/0        ( 0.0%) 
faces                12430/65536      696080/3670016  (19.0%) 
hdr faces                0/65536           0/3670016  ( 0.0%) 
origfaces             7124/65536      398944/3670016  (10.9%) 
leaves                1622/65536       51904/2097152  ( 2.5%) 
leaffaces            14745/65536       29490/131072   (22.5%) 
leafbrushes           4805/65536        9610/131072   ( 7.3%) 
areas                    3/256            24/2048     ( 1.2%) 
surfedges            90157/512000     360628/2048000  (17.6%) 
edges                54038/256000     216152/1024000  (21.1%) 
LDR worldlights         61/8192         5368/720896   ( 0.7%) 
HDR worldlights          0/8192            0/720896   ( 0.0%) 
leafwaterdata            2/32768          24/393216   ( 0.0%) 
waterstrips           1513/32768       15130/327680   ( 4.6%) 
waterverts               0/65536           0/786432   ( 0.0%) 
waterindices         30381/65536       60762/131072   (46.4%) 
cubemapsamples           0/1024            0/16384    ( 0.0%) 
overlays                 0/512             0/180224   ( 0.0%) 
LDR lightdata         [variable]    23658652/0        ( 0.0%) 
HDR lightdata         [variable]           0/0        ( 0.0%) 
visdata               [variable]      106612/16777216 ( 0.6%) 
entdata               [variable]      103582/393216   (26.3%) 
LDR ambient table     1622/65536        6488/262144   ( 2.5%) 
HDR ambient table     1622/65536        6488/262144   ( 2.5%) 
LDR leaf ambient      6966/65536      195048/1835008  (10.6%) 
HDR leaf ambient      1622/65536       45416/1835008  ( 2.5%) 
occluders                0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder polygons        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder vert ind        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
detail props          [variable]           1/12       ( 8.3%) 
static props          [variable]           1/404      ( 0.2%) 
pakfile               [variable]      176372/0        ( 0.0%) 
physics               [variable]      842941/4194304  (20.1%) 
physics terrain       [variable]       67883/1048576  ( 6.5%) 

Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 37060
Writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
6 minutes, 6 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\maps\citytestlight.bsp"


** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\hl2.exe"
** Parameters: -allowdebug -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" +map "citytestlight"

[nerdygamer]

[url]http://www.interlopers.net/errors/index.php[/url]

You have 3 errors you might want to fix. Mabye that might help you.

[Nask]

[QUOTE=nerdygamer;18303988][url]http://www.interlopers.net/errors/index.php[/url]

You have 3 errors you might want to fix. Mabye that might help you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but only 2 problems are seen in fix as "Generally, this error may be ignored" cant they really be that much of a problem? Third is ignored.

[Sigfig]

Even if they're not the cause of the problem you should fix any errors in the map.

[Metallics]

That depends entirely on your definition of "errors", 1 of those "errors" is more of a notification (using fast vvis), the zero area child patch is a warning mroe than anything else, just fix those displacements.

[bunglist]

[QUOTE=nask;18301570]Hello, i have problem with my Light_environment. I doesnt update, i have deleted, remade and used voodoo magicks but it still doesnt update. It just shows old settings of Light_environment, i only have 1 Light_environment. Check for problems doesnt show anything.

Here is the compile log:

** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (May 19 2009)
2 threads
materialPath: d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\materials
Loading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.vmf
Patching WVT material: maps/citytestlight/nature/blendrubbledirt001a_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/citytestlight/nature/blenddirtgrass001a_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 3026 detail faces...done (1)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
Creating default LDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day03_06*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Creating default HDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day03_06*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges.
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (842941 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 6307 texinfos to 3764
Reduced 87 texdatas to 69 (2339 bytes to 1699)
Writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
3 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -fast -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (May 19 2009)
fastvis = true
2 threads
reading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
reading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.prt
 648 portalclusters
2082 numportals
BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Optimized: 9994 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 326536
Average clusters visible: 503
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 636
visdatasize:106612  compressed from 114048
writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -bounce 2 -noextra -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (May 19 2009)

      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[48 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (2.40 seconds)
12430 faces
15 degenerate faces
1060569 square feet [152722000.00 square inches]
319 Displacements
117768 Square Feet [16958730.00 Square Inches]
12415 patches before subdivision
zero area child patch
zero area child patch
375181 patches after subdivision
sun extent from map=0.000000
61 direct lights
BuildFacelights:     0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (79)
BuildVisLeafs:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (243)
transfers 94892415, max 3351
transfer lists: 724.0 megs
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)
	Bounce #1 added RGB(156332, 140879, 77666)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)
	Bounce #2 added RGB(20865, 16985, 6891)
Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.2957 sec>
FinalLightFace:      0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (19)
FinalLightFace Done
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (18)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

Object names       Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness 
------------       ---------------  ---------------  -------- 
models                   3/1024          144/49152    ( 0.3%) 
brushes               2454/8192        29448/98304    (30.0%) 
brushsides           17805/65536      142440/524288   (27.2%) 
planes                8478/65536      169560/1310720  (12.9%) 
vertexes             21095/65536      253140/786432   (32.2%) 
nodes                 1618/65536       51776/2097152  ( 2.5%) 
texinfos              3764/12288      271008/884736   (30.6%) 
texdata                 69/2048         2208/65536    ( 3.4%) 
dispinfos              319/0           56144/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_verts            8647/0          172940/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_tris            11360/0           22720/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_lmsamples      313296/0          313296/0        ( 0.0%) 
faces                12430/65536      696080/3670016  (19.0%) 
hdr faces                0/65536           0/3670016  ( 0.0%) 
origfaces             7124/65536      398944/3670016  (10.9%) 
leaves                1622/65536       51904/2097152  ( 2.5%) 
leaffaces            14745/65536       29490/131072   (22.5%) 
leafbrushes           4805/65536        9610/131072   ( 7.3%) 
areas                    3/256            24/2048     ( 1.2%) 
surfedges            90157/512000     360628/2048000  (17.6%) 
edges                54038/256000     216152/1024000  (21.1%) 
LDR worldlights         61/8192         5368/720896   ( 0.7%) 
HDR worldlights          0/8192            0/720896   ( 0.0%) 
leafwaterdata            2/32768          24/393216   ( 0.0%) 
waterstrips           1513/32768       15130/327680   ( 4.6%) 
waterverts               0/65536           0/786432   ( 0.0%) 
waterindices         30381/65536       60762/131072   (46.4%) 
cubemapsamples           0/1024            0/16384    ( 0.0%) 
overlays                 0/512             0/180224   ( 0.0%) 
LDR lightdata         [variable]    23658652/0        ( 0.0%) 
HDR lightdata         [variable]           0/0        ( 0.0%) 
visdata               [variable]      106612/16777216 ( 0.6%) 
entdata               [variable]      103582/393216   (26.3%) 
LDR ambient table     1622/65536        6488/262144   ( 2.5%) 
HDR ambient table     1622/65536        6488/262144   ( 2.5%) 
LDR leaf ambient      6966/65536      195048/1835008  (10.6%) 
HDR leaf ambient      1622/65536       45416/1835008  ( 2.5%) 
occluders                0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder polygons        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder vert ind        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
detail props          [variable]           1/12       ( 8.3%) 
static props          [variable]           1/404      ( 0.2%) 
pakfile               [variable]      176372/0        ( 0.0%) 
physics               [variable]      842941/4194304  (20.1%) 
physics terrain       [variable]       67883/1048576  ( 6.5%) 

Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 37060
Writing d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp
6 minutes, 6 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\sourcesdk_content\ep2\mapsrc\citytestlight.bsp" "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\maps\citytestlight.bsp"


** Executing...
** Command: "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\hl2.exe"
** Parameters: -allowdebug -game "d:\program files\steam\steamapps\tursikas\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" +map "citytestlight"

[/QUOTE]

I usually attribute problems like this to Hammer "going weird" (often after crashed compilations) and solve it by copying the entire contents of the map and pasting to a new file. Has worked every time I've discovered a strange problem with non-updating entities or entities appearing where they shouldn't be.

At worst, it's worth a try.

[Metallics]

Have you set the pitch on the light_env?

[Nask]

Sorry for the late responses.

[QUOTE=bunglist;18313436]I usually attribute problems like this to Hammer "going weird" (often after crashed compilations) and solve it by copying the entire contents of the map and pasting to a new file. Has worked every time I've discovered a strange problem with non-updating entities or entities appearing where they shouldn't be.

At worst, it's worth a try.[/QUOTE]

Didnt show anything new on compile log or Check problems.

[QUOTE=metallics;18317484]Have you set the pitch on the light_env?[/QUOTE]

Yes i have.

The displacement problem only affects the displacement so the light is not smoothed properly, but still when i deleted all of my displacements (I have alot of displacement detail in 3D skybox, i tried to look for the displacement that is "broken" but didnt find.) and compiled the Light_environment still didnt work.

Light_environment is working in 3D skybox tho (And there is no second Light_environment in there, as it is not needed) and it works on models in the map.
[media]
[url]http://ltsp.ekami.fi/JouniVillberg/Opinnaytetyo/citylighttest0001.jpg[/url]
[/media]

[Metallics]

map -> entity report, ensure you really do have only one light_env, its all I can think of.

[Nask]

[QUOTE=metallics;18364467]map -> entity report, ensure you really do have only one light_env, its all I can think of.[/QUOTE]

Only 1 in there, this problem confuses and irritates me alot.

[Skipcast]

Tried putting it in the "real" world?

[Nask]

[QUOTE=Dj-J3;18365219]Tried putting it in the "real" world?[/QUOTE]

If you by that mean putting light_environment in the gameplay area, it is already in there. But it is just lightning the 3D skybox and props in the gameplay area.

[HiddenMyst]

Is it inside/intersecting a brush?

[Nask]

[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;18380363]Is it inside/intersecting a brush?[/QUOTE]

Nope, its not.

[Nask]

I have to bump this thread as this problem still illudes me.

[HiddenMyst]

Anything in your 3d skybox?

[Nask]

[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;18412912]Anything in your 3d skybox?[/QUOTE]

There is quite alot stuff in there actually.

[HiddenMyst]

[QUOTE=nask;18419415]There is quite alot stuff in there actually.[/QUOTE]

Anything that intersects the area where you're play area would be?

[Nask]

[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;18419442]Anything that intersects the area where you're play area would be?[/QUOTE]

Not sure, I'll check.

EDIT: Nothing is intersecting the playable area.

[Missing User]

You do have a skybox right? Basically a box around your play area with tools/skybox texture on it.
Can't see any skybox in that picture, that's why.

[HiddenMyst]

[QUOTE=Hellsten;18419931]You do have a skybox right? Basically a box around your play area with tools/skybox texture on it.
Can't see any skybox in that picture, that's why.[/QUOTE]

Yes he does.

[Nask]

[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;18420024]Yes he does.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://i33.tinypic.com/25q93eu.jpg/]Indeed i have skybox.[/url]

[Firegod522]

Maybe you have your 3d skybox mis-aligned? have you tried moving the sky_camera a few units up or down?

[Nask]

[QUOTE=Firegod522;18427185]Maybe you have your 3d skybox mis-aligned? have you tried moving the sky_camera a few units up or down?[/QUOTE]

Yes, i have tried moving it around.

[HiddenMyst]

Disable the 3d skybox and then try it again.

[Nask]

[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;18435671]Disable the 3d skybox and then try it again.[/QUOTE]

Seems like the problem is on 3D skybox, without it Light_environment was wroking perfectly. Just need to pinpoint the problem in there now, thanks for the help all.

[HiddenMyst]

Well normally when something is intersecting the source of the light (in this case the skybox texture), it will cast light that affects models, but not the ground.

[Nask]

[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;18436552]Well normally when something is intersecting the source of the light (in this case the skybox texture), it will cast light that affects models, but not the ground.[/QUOTE]

The thing is, there isnt really anything intersecting it.