Firstly i would like to tell that my english isnt good so please dont judge me.
OK so i ve been playing rust since legacy and i have 2.6k hours in game so i think i know something about the game. Also i ve got quite a lot of friends with more than 2k hours and i ve been discussing these ideas with few of them and they feel it pretty much as i do.
Lets start with the most important thing with me - blueprint system.
PART 1.1 When you re playing on vanilla servers with weekly or biweekly wipes thing that happens to me every wipe is that we re farming 20k scrap 24/7 first day and half so we ve got all the bps and then we got offlined by someone who dont like us so there is no point to keep playing on that server because they ll offline you again if you ll keep playing on that server. I mean im completely alright with this because this is rust if u cannot fight someone you ll offline him. Also when this doesnt happen server is dead after 3-4 days so there is no point to play anyways.
PART 1.2 OK G, why dont you play on servers where is full wipe every time. Well whats the point of bps then. I thought that bps re back to bring back that early game even tho its like 2 hours for me but i still like it and without early game there is no point to have bps.
PART 1.3 The very last thing that bothers me is that after u ve farmed 20k scrap during the first 36 hours built 3 secret cave bases with hqm cores and at one survives hqm is still needed like 90 for one full gear so its quite a lot so u keep farmin those components to get that little hqm but what to do with scrap? Suddenly everything changes there is useless scrap and need for hqm.
PART 1.4 Conclusion aka solution playing 4 wipes per month and every time farm so much scrap ll simply make game boring so what i would do is i would dubble scrap yield from boxes but also recycling - and there ll be still that early game because farm that much scrap solo/duo is possible only if u ve got pretty much locked launch site and second thing is why not to make possibility to smelt scrap into hqm 10->1 for example this would help a lot and scrap wouldnt be useless in the late game.
PART 2.1 Add one more slot to a small furnaces so we can easily split that sulfur, hqm or scrap ;) into quarters
Thank you for reading this post. Even though there is very little chance that my ideas ll be actually read by someone from facepunch developers but at least i ve tried.
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Your problem is vanilla and weekly/bi-weekly. Vanilla is played best on a monthly wipe (like all official servers are now). I strongly suggest you play official vanilla, or find a community server with the same set up - if you're into the "community stuff". A whole month gives you plenty of time to "relax" and farm scrap/comps/HQM at a normal pace - so you dont have to go crazy. Either that, or you have to accept that your weekly/bi-weekly game is gonna be with low tier (primitive?) BPs and dont try to max out to t3, but I'd rather not go that route and just play monthly wipe. On a side note all official servers dont die out on day 3 - they last around full capacity (200-250) all the way til the end of the month/wipe. So again - strongly suggested.
Im not sure about this complaint. Play full wipe monthly. You get the best of all worlds, and the best Rust experience IMHO. A month is enough to farm "casually" all the way to t3 BPs and enough to actually want to wipe all your BPs at the end. It gives you best primitive game, best mid game (SARs+pythons) and best lategame (AKs, C4, launchers) so that you get to enjoy each phase. Early game lasts about 3 days on officials...and even afterwards up to 1st week past wipe you see ppl in wood armor with bows/xbows.
20k scrap on officials in first 36 hours would be pretty insane and would probably put you on the "top of the food chain" in terms of having BPs and stuff researched. Problem is I feel that you're not playing official vanilla, so we're not comparing apples to apples. 20k scrap on some 5x server could be nothing, like something a noob can farm in 3 hours... Also HQM cave bases on vanilla especially with an armored core - can pretty much last you the entire wipe (month) unless you piss off the wrong people (zerg). Raiding armored bases on vanilla is very very hard (not impossible, but it makes people think twice, if not thrice)
Conclusion - dont play weekly/bi-weekly wipe - you're digging yourself a grave and burning your own self out. Play what feels fun/good, something you can enjoy - aka monthly wipe with vanilla farm settings.
Well i play vanilla and yeah farm 20k scrap in 36 hours is hard but i feel like rust is about the new beginnings and if u re stacked in one phase of game for too long it ll get boring. Current bp system with that scrap grind bound you on one server because after all that grind to get to the endgame you dont want to start somewhere else and grind again its just disappointing. Also basically when you get raided you dont want to keep playing maybe after one yes but when it happens again you might find yourself in position that you want to change server and start again start with the same nothing as everyone else but when u realise that u ll again spend that much time just by grinding components and scrap.... Geez... And when you said that on official server cave base with hqm core wont get raided after 2 days its not true because me and my 2 friends were able to farm scrap for all the bps 40 rockets and still we ve had enough time to pvp and make angry so many people by killing then that after first 2 days they raided 3 our bases ans spent 10k more gp on first cave attempt and very next day raided everything just because we were pain in the ass and i mean if they were willing to do this just to get rid of us my question is what would be point to play with monthly wipe? We would get raided after 4 days max anyway. I just feel like that rust should be more about the new beginnings. Why rustafied one of the biggest servers wipes bps only when necessary? Because no one want that grind. I like rust and bp/component system but i think it needs more balances.
Simple, stop playing in weekly wipe server. Start playing vanilla monthly wipe server.
Well then u probably didn't get what I've been trying to explain.
Your bigest part of trouble comes from you playing these officials, that wipe (bi) weekly, and wipe bp's at least once a month. If bp's got wiped once a 3 months, most of your problems should be fixed, so it's just you that gives yourself a bad experience, not rust.
Because official servers are almost full , they have to wipe that often to prevent "too much enteties on map what causes performance issues".
Fun thing about this: Yes, lots of enteties makes performance worse, but I can't find any difference on my (strong machine) own 2 servers, performance is exactly the same server side when the map is empty compaired to a full map.
Another fun thing: Rust / Facepunch only wipes monthly, and bp's forced, so bp's are not even monthly wiped, the server owners of that servers decided this is what players want.
In that way, your giving yourself a bad experience again, by joining these types of servers.
That the servers are "officials" would not say they do everything with the server how rust made it or wanted it, if they did, wipes where monthly, and bp's only got wiped when facepunch wipes it (not even bi-monthly)
I agree with your post for the most part, except a couple of points. If you notice - the OP gets wiped on day 4-5, so playing a longer cycle, will just completely destroy him and wipe him off the server. (another problem is that the OP is playing too aggressive and pissing too many people off - but thats his personal issue).
Playing on anything shorter then 1-month BP wipe seems silly (too much grind) and anything longer (assume 3 month BP wipe) would seem boring. Once everyone gets AKs+rockets/C4, there is really no more "progression". So 1 month seems to be the "sweet spot". Again - thats my personal experience/opinion.
Also - servers wipe because of what I said above (most optimal "fun" and feeling of pregression with all tiers of play), not because of performance. Upkeep took care of performance issues, as things despawn/decay pretty fast now.
Well i mean that facepunch implemented bp system because they do want us to be in early mid and end game so i dont see any point not to wipe bps when map is wiped. It ll just demotivate new people on the server when they hear aks 30 minutes after wipe.
The second thing is that i ve never met someone who would play longer on one server than two weeks. I mean if server dont die and u dont get raided there is simply nothing to do no progres no nothing just some pointless shooting because u ve a box of aks already.
Facepunch implemented the bp system again with the tought to reduce players going from server to server, and only wipe blueprints when needed to get players more bounded to 1 server.
I agree with most of your sentiments about rust in general mate, but I disagree with a monthly BP wipe, a 3 month BP wipe gives smaller groups and maybe even solos the chance to experience late game with all BPs, many clans/groups will play 4-6 weeks of a BP wipe on an official and then migrate to a monthly BP wipe or a weekly/fortnightly for the last part of the month.
Personally playing in a small group on an official it feels like the first month of a BP wipe is a grind and the second and 3rd the good times where youre on an even playing field.
We enjoy the struggle of starting up that first month, but if BPs wiped every month and we were never on that level field I think it would limit the appeal - the scrap struggle is real!
Well i mean if u all haven't ever experienced the real scrap hustle feel of dominance and stuff u don't know what i mean like getting scrap all month long? Dude if u would hit one barrel every day u would be in endgame solo and if small group cannot make it to the endgame in one week time that means u re probably doing something wrong and doesn't matter what server u re playing last time i ve connected eu 1 or something i ve been in midgame in 3-4 hours solo but progress like this is hard and u just don't want to spend every wipe by getting enormous amount of scrap and if facepunch thinks that adding boring grind to the game ll make people keep playing there they re wrong maybe newbie but servers get boring after few days. If u wont get raided there re no goals because there re only two ways- u ll get raided or u kill the server basically both happen in three days after wipe so tell me have u ever been the one ruling server because if u would u wouldn't be playing 3 months bp wipes and month wipe. Geez i really feel like there re only roleplayers farming nodes all wipe so they can build big bases and offline raid...
Hey mate, no disrespect to you, I was replying to captainrussia, and from your comments i feel like you're playing on a modded or very low pop server, or youre talking shit.
Well in my point of view roleplayer raiders re the guys who re up all night just to make sure you re offline because they would not raid you online. Also if im playing basic wipe i play vanilla playing on mods is just for fun when u got raided at 5 am. And yeah i play on low pop but just because I hate running so it have to be like 100 players online and max 3.5 map everything larger is shit rust isn't running simulator
a roleplayer that calls others roleplayers in a bad way, lol.
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