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Before I start, I'll get one thing across: I am not staff on the server, this is simply in my opinion and isn't totally in the favor of the server. 420 Servers are a network of servers with various gamemodes, with the main ones being TTT. Citywars (Basewars), Minigames, and the all new original gamemode Hunger Games. These two servers are very popular, but the others are somewhat dead excluding Minigames, a Mario Party style gamemode. The community is well-knit with a great staff that I personally think get the job done quickly and efficiently, with some even being from Crowbar Gaming. There's a lot of effort put into the gamemodes with custom content that's original for the most part that doesn't hinder gameplay. Now, on to the specifics about the gamemodes. You could always donate to further benefit the servers, which does not include in-game advantages other than a slight increase in chance of being D/T and Traitor/Det weapons on TTT otherwise inaccessible. (These weapons are not overpowered, and do not greatly benefit you. They are extras or Mega Versions of certain T weapons, and the game is perfectly playable with balance without donating.) You will also receive 1000 points/$1 to buy cosmetic items for the Pointshop. TTT TTT is greatly modified. The base game is still there, but a lot of tweaks are added, from fun rounds to hats. T's and Detectives get a large arsenal of balanced (for the most part) weapons and tools. With this also comes an Innocent shop, with things such as a Radar, an Ammo Pack, and a few weapons such as a Katana or a Flak Magnum. A few M9K weapons are added to the base game along with some CSS guns, like the P90, FN2000, Magnum, Mossberg, Winchester, and a few more. These cost points, however, and you can get points by betting on the Innocents or Traitors, surviving a bounty from killing Traitors as Innocent, keeping the Detective VIP alive (no changes to the Detective themself), and a few other ways. Fun rounds occasionally pop up from time to time, it is a newly added feature however, so there aren't many variations of them. The most popular one is Traitor Tag, where if you die as an Inno by a Traitor, you come back as a Traitor. IP: 64.94.100.114:27015 [url=http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/64.94.100.114:27015/][img]http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/64.94.100.114:27015/b_560_95_1.png[/img][/url] An image of a Traitor menu: [THUMB]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/540722836745309946/F431B4B00665DA5CA26E223DA3CAFA05A4A2AA4E/[/thumb] Citywars The purpose of City Wars is make or join a faction, build and fortify a base, buy raidables (items that make you money) then try to scan players in other factions to start raids on them, or defend yourself from a raid all the while making more money than you spend. If you've played Basewars, then you know what this is. [url=http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.146.44.17:27015/][img]http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.146.44.17:27015/b_560_95_1.png[/img][/url] Minigames Minigames is a gamemode heavily inspired off Mario Party and the mg_ maps of CSS. As it is a new gamemode and still being worked on, the variety of the minigames are a little scarce with 10-20, but with time it will evolve. You go through sets of minigames, earning a star and some points for the Pointshop on each win. It's pretty addicting once you get started, and the server is almost always full. [url=http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/74.91.118.11:27015/][img]http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/74.91.118.11:27015/b_560_95_1.png[/img][/url] Hunger Games It's exactly how it is from the movies and books. You will fight to the death in an environment (currently one map) using the various tools and makeshift weapons to find scattered around. Dead fighters can use their credits to send a care package to alive players, but 1 credit is given per win, so you should save them for when they are really needed. This is currently in beta as well and being revised. If you would like like to know more, or see what this is all about, visit [url]www.420servers.com/forums[/url] . It would be great to see a boost in the community. Black Phoenix and Vik are staff on the server and any questions you have can be answered by them.

[QUOTE=Extronic;42603008]Do you encourage the use of marijuana? [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] More seriously, I think the hud looks bad. The circle thing is okay, but the health and ammo are just too flat and dull compared to the circle.[/QUOTE] There is always staff on the forums if you actually want to make a suggestion about it. You're bound to get a response from both community and staff.

The server name makes it hard for me to take you seriously.

These guys are a bunch of content stealers. Who don't give credit to anyone, also it's a Pay4Admin and also Pay4Respect donations system. And when the owner of the server calms that I was a troll. He's right, I was trolling his donators because they kept kicking me for "Disrespect".

[QUOTE=IncogMouse;42604351]The server name makes it hard for me to take you seriously.[/QUOTE] I was wondering if it was an ironic thing or not. The TTT rounds like Traitor Tag sound interesting, but it must get a little confusing for randomers. Are the rules and such clear?

As much as the name is "420", the server isn't all about "blazing it up xD". It's really just a regular community. It isn't Pay4Admin for sure. Paying won't get you any rank that puts you in a position with power, as is really only to benefit the server. I don't know how regular Donators were kicking you, unless you were on a very long time ago because Donator+ used to have Votekick. There is a long list of rules that are clear to understand and the basic understanding of each round is displayed in chat as it starts.

i was hoping it'd be a chill as fuck server full of weed fiends but instead it's just a typical ttt serv loaded with shit

[QUOTE=TCB;42606258]i was hoping it'd be a chill as fuck server full of weed fiends but instead it's just a typical ttt serv loaded with shit[/QUOTE] The "420" part of the server is declining because of old admins/trusted not coming back because of a staff purge last month. You also got on at the wrong time really.

i haven't even played yet. these are first impressions based on the thread. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] i wish all threads had a gametracker embed so i can tell when there are people playing without having to go into my servers list [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] i saw a bunch of notices asking me to donate and there was some futa anime spray which was pretty weird. i get that people should be allowed to spray whatever they want but dickgirls raping dickgirls is a bit far for me. wasn't very fun or different to other ttt servers.

[QUOTE=TCB;42606300]i haven't even played yet. these are first impressions based on the thread. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] i wish all threads had a gametracker embed so i can tell when there are people playing without having to go into my servers list [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] i saw a bunch of notices asking me to donate and there was some futa anime spray which was pretty weird. i get that people should be allowed to spray whatever they want but dickgirls raping dickgirls is a bit far for me. wasn't very fun or different to other ttt servers.[/QUOTE] The little notices on the left show different things from time to time. "dickgirls raping dickgirls" what the fuck

it was someones spray

[QUOTE=TCB;42606424]it was someones spray[/QUOTE] Yeah, there's no rules about that so you get weird shit. Also, there is a gametracker, I just added it to the OP, but it's for TTT.

[QUOTE=Llamalord;42604934]These guys are a bunch of content stealers. Who don't give credit to anyone[/QUOTE] Yeah that's what they are known for, I know they stole from my server aswell as from SLA Gaming back in the day.

[QUOTE=gottifour;42602450](These weapons are not overpowered, and do not greatly benefit you. They are extras or Mega Versions of certain T weapons, and the game is perfectly playable with balance without donating.)[/QUOTE] Donor-only T items? I'll pass, thanks.

[QUOTE=TCB;42606300]i get that people should be allowed to spray whatever they want but dickgirls raping dickgirls is a bit far for me. [/QUOTE] i think that was me

Their whole Hunger Games script is just an edited version of TTT. Also it's just a lot garrysmod.org content edited slightly with no credit to the original creators. Also Citywars is just a pooped on version of Basewars. Finished by me and created by Partyvan.

[QUOTE=Det.Defective;42615349]Donor-only T items? I'll pass, thanks.[/QUOTE] Well, the problem with donor-only T weapons is that while it's a nice addition for those who have donated, it may alienate those without. The main worry I would have is that it might get other donators RDM'd or something like that. That's a very interesting and huge collection of TTT weapons, would you mind explaining some of the unique ones or items we may not have come across before?

What your mostly saying is wrong, first you don't pay for admin, most admins like the server enough to donate or donated to a charity event that Trop put together for a certain organization. Second most of the content on 420 is custom made like CW for an example, yes it uses the base wars source code but that source could be easily looked up for anyone who has google :/ Thirdly you weren't "kicked" from the server you were banned for protecting a speed hacker who was on your friends list, I bet if you were unbanned you wouldn't be saying shit about the server as well. And further more as proof that admins don't pay to get rank, I got staff before I donated so where is your proof on where admins pay for rank? Oh wait you're just making false accusations again. Not gonna lie we had some bad staff yes, but what server hasn't? So that's why we purged the server ranks completely so we can choose the admins that we think are fit for the position. Another thing is before you claim stolen content why don't you try to make it not so pubic, because quite frankly there are like 50 other gamemodes using your source code. I just think your comments are nothing more than childish revenge for being perma banned on our servers. So before you publicly accuse someone for "stealing content" get proof, oh you maybe wondering "who the hell does this guy is thinking he can talk to me as if he knows what happened" I happen to be one of the admins of the server community that you claim to have "stolen content" from your gamemode when it's for public use. Also you pretty much are a troll and we have 0 tolerance rule for disrespect, why are you a troll? Because you even said it in your own words. Honestly why not troll another community, like the one's on your very successful base wars gamemode. In conclusion you just made a big mistake on trash talking another server, well done. *slowly claps* And just to let people know that you were complimenting our server CW here's a link to his ban appeal you'll find his compliment on CW very interesting, you can find it on the second page of posts made on the topic. Funny how you talk shit about us when you also complimented us. [url]http://420servers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1531&start=10[/url]

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;42617840]Well, the problem with donor-only T weapons is that while it's a nice addition for those who have donated, it may alienate those without. The main worry I would have is that it might get other donators RDM'd or something like that.[/QUOTE] The main worry I have is being fair to my player-base. Making anything exclusive like that, be it for members, donors, or staff is a complete screw-over to those who aren't. Colored names, titles, even skins and other cosmetic pointshop crap, that's all fine to me, but giving somebody extra/exclusive T or D weapons/items makes it far less of a donation and more paying to win. From what I can tell from the icons, donors have access to an extra knife, a mini-gun, a grenade launcher, the jihad... doesn't really scream "balanced". Wouldn't mind being corrected on this, though.

[QUOTE=Det.Defective;42624057]The main worry I have is being fair to my player-base. Making anything exclusive like that, be it for members, donors, or staff is a complete screw-over to those who aren't. Colored names, titles, even skins and other cosmetic pointshop crap, that's all fine to me, but giving somebody extra/exclusive T or D weapons/items makes it far less of a donation and more paying to win. From what I can tell from the icons, donors have access to an extra knife, a mini-gun, a grenade launcher, the jihad... doesn't really scream "balanced". Wouldn't mind being corrected on this, though.[/QUOTE] The items Donators are given are balanced and fair. Although they aren't getting them, they aren't "pay2win" and are basically just extra weapons. The jihad is almost never used because it isn't overpowered like most servers have it. This is gottifour still by the way, currently on a friend's computer.

T weapons are there for fun, not to win. Sure they can benefit that cause but they are mostly there to have fun with and play around with.

Well, what are some of the donator weapons available?

Cloaking Knife for 4 credits: Makes you akin to the Hidden, you can jump far and high with a knife thatdoes about 30 damage with pretty good invisibility. Tron disks: 1 for regular, 2 for bouncy. One hit kill if it connects with somebody and can be thrown pretty far. Grenade Launcher for 3 credits: 16 grenades with a meh blast radius that does decent damage. Mega Artillery Strike/Black Hole: super buff versions of the Black Hole and Artillery Strike, 6 credits each UFO: 8 credits, NPC enemy that has a flamethrower, lasers, and electric bolts. Easily avoidable by being indoors. Mech: 8 credits, player-controlled vehicle with a massive array of weapons, can be killed with enough damage

There are ~70 Detective/Traitor/Inno items available in the respective shops, and there are 15-20 Donor-only items. These items are not "Pay2Win". They're variety items which are not available to non-donators. However, there are also many custom traitor items that are available to non-donators. There's a healthy mix. The extra knife is the Cloaking Knife from the Gmod gamemode The Hidden. Takes 6 hits to kill someone and the traitor is only invisible while standing completely still. The knife is time limited and has a higher credit cost. A single shotgun blast to the traitor's chest puts them down. I'd say it's fairly well balanced. The minigun is a Vulcan, which slows movement and provides continuous chaingun fire at a reasonable fire rate. Perhaps the same RoF as the Galil. Leaves the traitor vulnerable to headshots. It kills the traitor 60 seconds after it's first pulled out. The Berserker increases health by 100 (max of 200) and gives the traitor increased melee damage. It also forces the traitor to use only melee weapons... the traitor cannot switch to guns. After 60 seconds, Berserker wears off and the traitor's health is reduced by 100 (resulting in death if they did not have at least 101 hp) and they can begin using guns again. There are also high-cost (entire team of traitors has to pool credits) traitor items only available to Donors, such as the Mech which has 750 health and has various weapons including grav grenades, rockets, missiles, RPGs, gatling gun, etc. Fairly easy to destroy, but has great potential on maps like Rooftops or Sky Islands. Costs 9 credits. Or, Slenderman. Available to donors. Costs 9 credits and summons a slenderman which follows Innocents around killing them if they look directly at him. Admittedly has pathing issues and can become stuck on maps like Canyon or Rooftops. I could go on and cover each and every traitor/detective item, however I don't think it's necessary. A lot of judgments are being made here without much knowledge. Plenty of guessing without much fact to back any of it up. The donor-only traitor items are fun/amusing items and in no way equate to Pay2Win. There are 15-20 donor-only traitor items, and ~60 total traitor items most of which are custom and are not available elsewhere. As for Llamalord's statement... I have to say that I'm sure his opinion has been skewed by his permanent ban for staff disrespect. He had nothing bad to say about 420's servers prior to the permanent ban, and even complimented the owner on what he'd done with the City Wars gamemode. One of our staff members caught a speedhacker and banned him. Llamalord defended the speedhacker and went on a rant against our staff member, including telling the staff member to shut his fucking mouth and then calling the staff member a fucking faggot, among other things. We use the Steam Workshop for fast downloads of our custom content. Give our servers/gamemodes a shot before condemning them based on gossip and hearsay, alone. Plenty has been said here without any knowledge of what our servers or community are actually like. You'd be hard pressed to find a community that's better moderated than ours. The community's name is 420, which may put some people off, but we aren't a bunch of random children running around screaming and RDMing. We have a solid team of staff that are highly active and the owner is extremely involved in the community. When the players speak the owner listens and he's quick to make changes or additions.

[QUOTE=Vik;42624382]There are ~70 Detective/Traitor/Inno items available in the respective shops, and there are 15-20 Donor-only items. These items are not "Pay2Win". They're variety items which are not available to non-donators. However, there are also many custom traitor items that are available to non-donators. There's a healthy mix. The extra knife is the Cloaking Knife from the Gmod gamemode The Hidden. Takes 6 hits to kill someone and the traitor is only invisible while standing completely still. The knife is time limited and has a higher credit cost. A single shotgun blast to the traitor's chest puts them down. I'd say it's fairly well balanced. The minigun is a Vulcan, which slows movement and provides continuous chaingun fire at a reasonable fire rate. Perhaps the same RoF as the Galil. Leaves the traitor vulnerable to headshots. It kills the traitor 60 seconds after it's first pulled out. The Berserker increases health by 100 (max of 200) and gives the traitor increased melee damage. It also forces the traitor to use only melee weapons... the traitor cannot switch to guns. After 60 seconds, Berserker wears off and the traitor's health is reduced by 100 (resulting in death if they did not have at least 101 hp) and they can begin using guns again. There are also high-cost (entire team of traitors has to pool credits) traitor items only available to Donors, such as the Mech which has 750 health and has various weapons including grav grenades, rockets, missiles, RPGs, gatling gun, etc. Fairly easy to destroy, but has great potential on maps like Rooftops or Sky Islands. Costs 9 credits. Or, Slenderman. Available to donors. Costs 9 credits and summons a slenderman which follows Innocents around killing them if they look directly at him. Admittedly has pathing issues and can become stuck on maps like Canyon or Rooftops. I could go on and cover each and every traitor/detective item, however I don't think it's necessary. A lot of judgments are being made here without much knowledge. Plenty of guessing without much fact to back any of it up. The donor-only traitor items are fun/amusing items and in no way equate to Pay2Win. There are 15-20 donor-only traitor items, and ~60 total traitor items most of which are custom and are not available elsewhere. As for Llamalord's statement... I have to say that I'm sure his opinion has been skewed by his permanent ban for staff disrespect. He had nothing bad to say about 420's servers prior to the permanent ban, and even complimented the owner on what he'd done with the City Wars gamemode. One of our staff members caught a speedhacker and banned him. Llamalord defended the speedhacker and went on a rant against our staff member, including telling the staff member to shut his fucking mouth and then calling the staff member a fucking faggot, among other things. We use the Steam Workshop for fast downloads of our custom content. Give our servers/gamemodes a shot before condemning them based on gossip and hearsay, alone. Plenty has been said here without any knowledge of what our servers or community are actually like. You'd be hard pressed to find a community that's better moderated than ours. The community's name is 420, which may put some people off, but we aren't a bunch of random children running around screaming and RDMing. We have a solid team of staff that are highly active and the owner is extremely involved in the community. When the players speak the owner listens and he's quick to make changes or additions.[/QUOTE] Did you join JUST to comment a review for this server?

[QUOTE=Monkah;42624938]Did you join JUST to comment a review for this server?[/QUOTE] As said, they are staff and one of them got a hold of it and it went around. Vik is a Super Admin on the server and Black Phoenix is an Admin.

[QUOTE=TheSoviet;42614375]Yeah that's what they are known for, I know they stole from my server aswell as from SLA Gaming back in the day.[/QUOTE] I was accused of stealing by you and several others. Yes, I used ideas I had grown to like on other servers and implemented them myself. For instance, I liked how you could shoot down doors and decapitate heads on SLA and how the parkour fists worked on CG. If that's what you'd define as stealing then yes I'm a bloody thief, get over it. [QUOTE=Llamalord;42615976]Their whole Hunger Games script is just an edited version of TTT. Also it's just a lot garrysmod.org content edited slightly with no credit to the original creators. Also Citywars is just a pooped on version of Basewars. Finished by me and created by Partyvan.[/QUOTE] Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. 99% of 420's content was made solely by me. Hunger Games and City Wars were actually written mainly from scratch besides a bit of recycled TTT code and other small pieces at the start of development. You're right, I could of given credit. If I was releasing what I made then I definitely wouldn't be doing it this way. So what's with all the unjustified hate? If you don't like the servers then obviously that's fine but please don't accuse me of things I haven't done. Also, we've never given ranks for donating, not ever.

[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;42625491]I was accused of stealing by you and several others. Yes, I used ideas I had grown to like on other servers and implemented them myself. For instance, I liked how you could shoot down doors and decapitate heads on SLA and how the parkour fists worked on CG. If that's what you'd define as stealing then yes I'm a bloody thief, get over it.[/QUOTE] Except that isn't the case, big difference between expanding upon ideas and joining servers back in gmod 12 and stealing their code. I guarantee you a lot of that code isn't yours, some of your weapons are straight from SLA. If you are going to steal lua code through cache at least don't try and pretend like you created it.

[QUOTE=TheSoviet;42629226]Except that isn't the case, big difference between expanding upon ideas and joining servers back in gmod 12 and stealing their code. I guarantee you a lot of that code isn't yours, some of your weapons are straight from SLA. If you are going to steal lua code through cache at least don't try and pretend like you created it.[/QUOTE] And if you're going to make accusations on this where is your proof then? How would you know if that content is stolen or not? Wait, you obviously are just talking shit again. Trop works hard for the server and for you to make statements such as claiming "stolen" code without legit proof is really aggravating. I doubt you even play on 420 yet, you still make these allegations. Making a false accusation without proof is one thing but to publicly post about it is another. So next time before you try to publicly accuse someone for a certain reason, I suggest you get proof.

Hmm, they certainly sound interesting. I might give this a go anyway, it sounds like a really varied TTT server. I imagine every round is pretty different. It's a little weird that donator items are more than one credit, because the game isn't designed that way, but I assume it's to discourage overusing them.