Why I am starting to hate TF2... And not ranting about Mann store or polycount - Games

PART ONE: HAT HATRED So... back in Febuary of 08, I got Tf2 as a gift, and fell in love. It was my game... everything about it made me happy. It was so much fun to participate in crazy update theory hijinks. But... somewhere between the Sniper/Spy Update and the halloween update... my dislike started to grow. Because... this is where hats came in. Suddenly, now stupid hats were held in high regards as objects of power. But at least they looked... okay on the characters. Then CLassless update. Hats were now being joked around by Valve about how they were so classy... A meme/joke which I would soon hate. But now, the hats look stupid. I know team fortress 2 is funny, but funny =/= stupidity. It's not funny just because the scout has a beverage hat... that takes away from part of the game if a badass mercernary is running at me while wearing a soda hat. And then, hats stopped even being part of the character... like in the community updates. Demoman has a pimp hat because he's black lololololololol... Why does a Scottish Badass Demolitions guy need a pimp hat? Not to mention Halos, Gibuses, and Bunny heads that ruin the atmosphere of this game. PART 2. FULL LIFE WEAPON HATRED Back in the day, every class had a set purpose. This was good! spy got in the other base, Sniper sniped, and demo blew stuff up. But let's look at the updates now. We have Demomen who charge the battlefield with only a fucking sword, Spies who hang back with the ambassador, and Snipers leading offensive charges with the huntsman. Wait... what happened? The updates completely flip all the characters around, and not all in a good way. I see so many times that teamwork has died in this game... And that nearly every server I join we have the usual rambo demo's going on his pretend little Viking spree. Also, I hate nearly every new weapon. What happened to guns? Why does every single update need to include alternate weapons? I'd much rather a GUN than a Sandwhich, Cola, or any other stupid alternates. Which brings me again to ridicioulousness. Most of the new weapons are just to silly for there own good. Yeah... Jarate.. that's kinda stupid. Oh well. I'll get over that. But seriously? We now have people running with trumpets, jars of jarate, fish, and what other stupid things valve has come up with. PART 3: I don't like Saxton Hale. At all. This is pure opinion, but I simply cannot stand the memetic love you have all fallen for him. I don't find any of it funny at all, and I really wish they would lay of him and all the Hat Class jokes for a long time. PART 4: I HATE SPUF. Finally... I hate SPUF. Everytime a weapon comes out, you people WHINE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW IT'S TOTALLY UNFAIR IF I CAN'T ONE SHOT A HEAVY AS SCOUT Let's take a look at the Sandman. Perfect weapon when it came out... but you all cried so hard because it stunnned, and it was unfair in your pro leauges... and Valve listend to you and now it's essentielly useless. Tl;DR TF2 is like a band. Started out awesome but is going to hell in a handbasket.

[QUOTE=DANKA;25281016] PART 3: I don't like Saxton Hale.... [/QUOTE] I stopped reading right there...

[QUOTE=ArsonBoy5996;25281063]I stopped reading right there...[/QUOTE] That was what everyone on SPUF gave me too.

I admit that the lines between classes has been blurred a little, but for the sake of keeping TF2 fresh, it has to be updated. It's a shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.

[QUOTE=DANKA;25281016]trumpets[/QUOTE] I agree with you mostly but if you don't get why he has a bugle you're kind of dense.

[QUOTE=Chilean;25281136]I agree with you mostly but if you don't get why he has a bugle you're kind of dense.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Reveille, okay I'll edit that out, that one at least makes sence. If he was in a camp. But he's on a battlefield.

Somebody needs to make a server plugin or something that makes it true vanilla. I'd bookmark that server and play there often.

dude, shit changes, in the society we live in, things NEED TO CHANGE. some will say how they miss the old days, you can make servers in TF, ban every new weapon then, live in the past. I just think you need to stop making a big deal of it, it's not like there is only shit servers where no one knows teamwork. being a pubber means you'll have lots of new people, never the same. and there's one thing, newcomers. some doesn't even know that in a CTF you have to capture the fucking intelligence. and to end this, deal with it :frogc00l:

You can't hate on TF2 because of SPUF. Valve has no control over them. Same with people's opinions on Saxton Hale.

Some guy I know got permabanned on spuf and said VALVE GIVE ME A REFUND ON ALL YOUR SHITTY GAMES ADASFAGASDFAGADFHKJADFJGHAD [editline]10:11PM[/editline] which was like all of his games on steam

yeah ok

I kinda agree that Saxton Hale has outlived his usefulness. I'd prefer it if they did something fresh in the next update.

[QUOTE=NeoDement;25281419]I kinda agree that Saxton Hale has outlived his usefulness. I'd prefer it if they did something fresh in the next update.[/QUOTE] Maybe Meet The Pyro? Thought we were long overdue for that.

I agree with the class updates, the newer ones anyway.

Finally, someone who understands why I quit after the demoman update. Class roles are class roles, dammit! I don't care about hats, I don't care about paint, I don't care about crafting, I don't even care that you're letting people buy their stuff, I'm just mad because you threw out gameplay balance for an "LOL, this gai haz a sword".

Someone can't take a joke.

[QUOTE=DANKA;25281016]:words:[/QUOTE] PART ONE: [img]http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/halolz-dot-com-teamfortress2-looktheychangedtf2.gif[/img]

About hats killing the enviroment of the game... Yeah, agreed, it has gone too far. Every hat should be Soldier's Stash-style: Something that changes how the characters look (and, really, I love that kinda change, makes it easier for a medic to recognize his favorite targets, and I play as a medic a lot) but still keeps the theme on. Shit like Brain Slug, those "Unusual Hats" and "Napper's Respite" should stay OUT. Not EVERY new weapon is stupid, even the "non-guns" ones. The medic is the main example. Kritzkrieg is lovely, the Ubersaw makes it so you have no reason to use the Bonesaw, the Blutsauger is a lovely option in pub servers where you'll often be left alone. The sandvich is also something that increases teamwork (I rarely ever see a heavy eating his own) rather than an egotistical shotgun. Many things can be said about how new weapons CAN add to the gameplay in relation to vanilla. And, really? Sandman was perfect? I don't think so. It takes way more skill to handle it now and it'll mostly work as a teamwork weapon. I don't think chaging a weapon according to player's reactions to it is bad or anything. ...Anyway, I didn't mean to rant, but... Meh.

Someone hates having fun.

[QUOTE=DANKA;25281016]PART 3: I don't like Saxton Hale.[/QUOTE] Opinion invalidated.

yeah hate tf2 because of a fish that was created by the community and voted into the game by the community uh what's your argument again?

Hats,new weapons and shit was maded to keep the game fresh And unlocks add more variety to the game,some combinations make subclases or change completly the role of the class,like demoknights or combat enginners If you hate TF2 now,just don't play it,or go to play the xbox 360/ps3 version [quote]PART 3: I don't like Saxton Hale. At all. This is pure opinion, but I simply cannot stand the memetic love you have all fallen for him. I don't find any of it funny at all, and I really wish they would lay of him and all the Hat Class jokes for a long time.[/quote] BLASPHEMY!

[QUOTE=Doomish;25281848]and voted into the game by the community[/QUOTE] oh yeah I remember voting on the polycount contest

I agree that the Eyelander and Chargin' Targe were fucking stupid ideas for the Demoman. And some of the newest hats are absolutely ridiculous. Like an Umbrella hat for the Heavy, and a Dr. Seuss hat for the Soldier. Don't get me wrong, Umbrellas are cool and so is Cat in the Hat, but they don't really have their place in TF2. I JUST only started thinking negatively around this update though. Because it's like Valve is specifically trying to put in unfitting hats and items now. But whatever, nothing I can really do about it so I'll just sit back and enjoy the game anyway.

Just make a black model for the hats if you don't like them. They don't even do anything, except the new ones. And all the new ones fit IMO, especially the croc hat

I do like Saxton Hale though. The comics are funny to read and everything needs its own Chuck Norris.

I'm going to have to agree.

Hat's don't actually affect gameplay, they just give an aspect of customization to the game. And I agree with most of the weapons, I've always hated the huntsman and chargin' targe, but you aren't gonna change the minds of people who do just because you made a thread about it. Just use the weapons that you like, don't whine about the ones you don't like.

These are the same complaints that have been tossed around for a while, and all of them are still mostly just opinionated about how the game's changed cosmetically. I personally think it's just fine. Old TF2 is nice but I'd rather have new TF2 since there's always a reason to still play it.

[QUOTE=Keychain;25282041]I do like Saxton Hale though. The comics are funny to read and everything needs its own Chuck Norris.[/QUOTE] Hale would destroy Norris.