What's wrong with hoodoo? - Games

Ive seen quite a few people in this area of the forums bitching about hoodoo, and I don't understand what's so bad about it. It is does have a couple chokepoints for red to use, but that provides a nice challenge for blu. It isn't really unbalanced toward either team, unless yours sucks. So I really want to know why people keep on bitching about it.

Because it IS unbalanced. Also, the douchebag named Youme made it, which makes it suck further. [editline]05:51PM[/editline] [url]http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php[/url] Go to the bottom, and to round win %. look at Hoodoo.

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;17233210]provides a nice challenge for blu.[/QUOTE] [img]http://filesmelt.com/downloader/lol9.PNG[/img]

[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;17233237]Because it IS unbalanced. Also, the douchebag named Youme made it, which makes it suck further. [editline]05:51PM[/editline] [url]http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php[/url] Go to the bottom, and to round win %. look at Hoodoo.[/QUOTE] oh lookie thar, its 9/31 on most played thats REALLY underplayed

Sniperfest 2008

The last time Hoodoo was won was.... well, when did they fix the Cart glitch?

Every single corner in Hoodoo is a sentry spot.

[QUOTE=bigbadbarron;17233334]oh lookie thar, its 9/31 on most played thats REALLY underplayed[/QUOTE] Just because it's played quite a bit doesn't make it a good or balanced map.

Too crampt, everywhere is a good sentry spot

[QUOTE=HeckXX;17233271][img]http://filesmelt.com/downloader/lol9.PNG[/img][/QUOTE] To be fair a lot of this is due to spamfest 32 man servers. I'm not really a fan of Hoodoo either, but I think people exaggerate their hate for Youme. Most people just cite that he doesn't like Facepunch and just assume "Well gee anyone who doesn't like Facepunch must be a dick!" I've also seen people say he has an ego problem, which may be true, I never really noticed though. You learn to tune that out in a small town where everyone's an arrogant fuck.

BLU seems to win a good bit of the time when I play it.

[QUOTE=Mexican;17233737]To be fair a lot of this is due to spamfest 32 man servers.[/QUOTE] Works for all the other maps in the game. Hoodoo is just shit. It's flat, it's boring, and it's payload. Also the last point is terrible. The latest version is better, sure, but it's still fucking hoodoo.

[QUOTE=NOT King Shit;17233801]Works for all the other maps in the game.[/QUOTE] Valve tested in 32 man games I'm assuming. Youme didn't really bother I don't think. And yeah there was something about the map that just felt bland to me, but I try to be polite about it. I can still have fun there at least.

[QUOTE=Mexican;17233855]Valve tested in 32 man games I'm assuming. Youme didn't really bother I don't think.[/QUOTE] another reason why it is shit.

The map's horribly unbalanced, also, the creator of it is a dick that hates FP.

I enjoy hoodoo on a small server but too many people go spy/sniper

[QUOTE=Octo pie;17233879]another reason why it is shit.[/QUOTE] I agree he probably should have tested there, but 32 man servers had it coming.

As someone who knows Youme pretty well and has received plenty of mapping advice from him, I wouldn't go hating on him blindly. Hoodoo is not his best work and is in fact no improvement on the typical spamfest gameplay payload usually devolves to. I prefer halfacre, but even that is still a mess of corners. Hoodoo definitely has improved since it was released though, and is still the best 3-stage community payload map. (IMO)

[QUOTE=FreeLanceFoX;17234092]Hoodoo definitely has improved since it was released though, and is still the best 3-stage community payload map. (IMO)[/QUOTE] Isn't it only a [b]2[/b]-stage payload map?

No, 3 stages. Also Hoodoo Stage one, cap one+PSG +excessive+Drugs+ Medic. :lsd: I recorded it once, but I only had WeGame at the Time it decided to be a little fgt and not upload.

[QUOTE=FreeLanceFoX;17234092]As someone who knows Youme pretty well and has received plenty of mapping advice from him, I wouldn't go hating on him blindly. Hoodoo is not his best work and is in fact no improvement on the typical spamfest gameplay payload usually devolves to. I prefer halfacre, but even that is still a mess of corners. Hoodoo definitely has improved since it was released though, and is still the best 3-stage community payload map. (IMO)[/QUOTE] you know youme? can you give him a message for me? your maps are shit

hoodoo is like a meat grinder

The newer fixed version is far better...I don't really mind the map now. They fixed up the choke points that were too bad and I think it works out just fine now. That bad win ratio is culminated from both the old version of the map and the new version. Same goes for Egypt and Goldrush; they aren't so bad now that they reworked the layouts, but the win ratios are still tarnished. [QUOTE=NOT King Shit;17233801]Works for all the other maps in the game.[/QUOTE] No it doesn't. Doesn't really matter what map, it becomes a clogged spamfest if the server has 32 players. Every official map is built specifically to accommodate 24 players, which is how TF2 is SUPPOSED to be played.

Poodoo, it's a badly planned map with no explosion at the end, I mean HELL, WHERE THE FUCK IS THE AMAZING EXPLOSION. Even cashworks got that one right.

There is a triggerhurt. And a loud boom.

[QUOTE=FreeLanceFoX;17234092]As someone who knows Youme pretty well and has received plenty of mapping advice from him, I wouldn't go hating on him blindly. Hoodoo is not his best work and is in fact no improvement on the typical spamfest gameplay payload usually devolves to.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=15197017&postcount=16]I wouldn't go defending him blindly.[/url]

I like hoodoo. :confused: [editline]07:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Anonymuzz;17234727][url=http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=15197017&postcount=16]I wouldn't go defending him blindly.[/url][/QUOTE] Oh I get it, people hate him because he hates FP. It all makes sense now.

Hoodoo is fun as an offensive blu engie, people will use your teleporter like no tomorrow.

I'm new to facepunch, as you can see. I wouldn't know what you all are like yet. >_>

[QUOTE=FreeLanceFoX;17234800]I'm new to facepunch, as you can see. I wouldn't know what you all are like yet. >_>[/QUOTE] "full of hatred, idiotic people posting stupid things and a general lack of respect towards anything"