I really don't get it. GTA4 had all these fancy DRM measures, and people cracked it within a week. The new Batman game had this fancy DRM that was supposed to stop people from beating the game, it got cracked the same day the game was released. I hear Sims 3 had some shit where you couldn't go to the second city or something, and that got cracked too. I'm sure there's other instances but I don't remember them.
I don't see why game developers even bother anymore. It's a waste of their time and money, trying to delay the inevitable. GTA4 especially had all sorts of hoops to jump through for DRM. People who downloaded it have an easier time running the game than people who bought it.
I'm not saying that it's a good idea to pirate games, quite the contrary. But why inconvenience your actual customers just to slightly inconvenience the people who don't pay for their games?
They don't have any better anti-piracy protections
yeah you're right.
Prevents 0day leaks and keeps the game secure for the few first days in which most of the sales take in place.
They just want to show they can and that they are improving.
Best drm ever:
steam
if we make everything like steam we will be ok.
[QUOTE=BlueSaint;17326398]Best drm ever:
steam
if we make everything like steam we will be ok.[/QUOTE]
Cracked steam.
I think it's going to end soon. EA is releasing a few games with only cd-keys soon I believe. I think they've realized that people are going to find a way no matter what and that it's pointless to pour money into something that does no good for anyone.
Plus, digital distribution is getting bigger and bigger, and that's helping a lot. It makes games a little bit cheaper, and allows for additional content to be added, like TF2 or L4D.
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[QUOTE=KrAzY_nikomo;17326329]Prevents 0day leaks and keeps the game secure for the few first days in which most of the sales take in place.[/QUOTE]
Batman was a 0 day leak. Actually it was more like a -7 day leak.
[QUOTE=BlueSaint;17326398]Best drm ever:
steam
if we make everything like steam we will be ok.[/QUOTE]
Steam really only works if the game is multi-player. Single-player games can be pirated to hell on steam, and the only reason multi-player is mostly immune, is because they have to go through steam servers(Aka, they need cracked servers to play, most are shit and few people play).
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[QUOTE=jivemasta;17326409]I think it's going to end soon. EA is releasing a few games with only cd-keys soon I believe. I think they've realized that people are going to find a way no matter what and that it's pointless to pour money into something that does no good for anyone.
Plus, digital distribution is getting bigger and bigger, and that's helping a lot. It makes games a little bit cheaper, and allows for additional content to be added, like TF2 or L4D.
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Isn't EA looking for alternative protections, like in the new batman game?
Not to mention Sims 3 and Spore were cracked before they were even released.
[quote=_sniper_;17326619]not to mention sims 3 and spore were cracked before they were even released.[/quote]
GTAIV
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[QUOTE=BlueSaint;17326398]Best drm ever:
steam
if we make everything like steam we will be ok.[/QUOTE]
Steam can be cracked to get you just about all of Valve's games and even multiplayer games will work on it (on some special servers, which there are lots of)
(That, and can be cracked to work with normal games.)
Usually to prevent zero-day cracks, to encourage people to buy hyped games. Unfortunately they leave the DRM in afterwards which is fuckin annoying.
Even then Steam is annoying, the times I want to replay single player games is when my internet goes out... Wait, that won't work.
[QUOTE=benjgvps;17327433]Even then Steam is annoying, the times I want to replay single player games is when my internet goes out... Wait, that won't work.[/QUOTE]
Offline Mode?
I spent about an hour activating GTA 4 when I didn't have internet. I had to keep running back and forth between my grandparent's house to use their internet. All that work when people who pirated it were already playing.
[QUOTE=B1N4RY;17326408]Cracked steam.[/QUOTE]
You can't play multiplayer with cracked steam.
[QUOTE=TheServer;17327616]Offline Mode?[/QUOTE]
Offline Mode doesn't work.
The only way to play Steam offline is through "illegal" methods.
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It's why impulse is better than steam :3
Don't need to have it running to do anything besides install/update games
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;17328325]It's why impulse is better than steam :3
Don't need to have it running to do anything besides install/update games[/QUOTE]
You only need steam on for valve games only. If you just go to common you can lunch games from there.
so that you they can arrest you for warez and cracking the drm also.
it's a conspiracy, google black helicopters
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[QUOTE=BlueSaint;17326398]Best drm ever:
steam
if we make everything like steam we will be ok.[/QUOTE]
I regularly see people running FEAR 2 as a non-steam game when the game needs a steam account to be played
[QUOTE=BlueSaint;17326398]Best drm ever:
steam
if we make everything like steam we will be ok.[/QUOTE]
I've cracked plenty of steam games. It's one of the better ones, but there is no way Steam is the best.
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[QUOTE=sleepyperson;17328368]You only need steam on for valve games only. If you just go to common you can lunch games from there.[/QUOTE]
Not true at all. You don't need steam for valve games.
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[QUOTE=The Epidemic;17328098]Offline Mode doesn't work.
The only way to play Steam offline is through "illegal" methods.
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I'm not sure what the heck you're doing, but my offline mode works just fine.
I use it all the time for the Steam games I have on my laptop.
For the most part they still use DRM to increase the initial sales at release, it only needs to work for a short time for it to be worthwhile.
However, in my opinion the fact that they have to rely so heavily on release day sales isn't very good at all, especially on the PC where many games get more of their sales in the following months than they do in the first week of release. It's yet another example of console ideology being applied to PC.
[QUOTE=B1N4RY;17326408]Cracked steam.[/QUOTE]
it's a bitch to get working and most of the time you have to find the GCF files on the internet. plus, no multiplayer support. i used to use a 3rd party app to launch steam games because offline mode used to be really broken.
Thanks for rating me dumb earlier... then not saying anything
Impulse never forces you to run it, ever. For anything. Steam does.
That was my point
What about blockland, that game is virtually uncrackable.
ONE guy uses a system that beats systems created by teams of hundreds
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