Medieval II: Total War - Great Turn based/Real time tactics game!
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:siren:This is my first thread that has this much text, and will probaly suck:siren:
In the game you control one of 17 different Empires, You get to build armies, seige cities, build cities, fight huge battles, Fight sea battles (Not really, wait till Empire: total war for that), and take over all of europe, parts of africa, and the middle east.
There can be up to 10,000 soldiers in a single battle if there was anymore your computer would die. There is also a Expansion, Medieval II: Total War: Kingdoms, which makes the game a lot better.
There is 21 Factions, 17 of those you can play. (Copy paste :()
Kingdom of England (Gules, in pale three lions passant gardant Or) - Has excellent archers (Retinue longbowmen, Sherwood archers), and strong heavy infantry (heavy billmen) but little variety in cavalry, and completely lacking in late-period spearmen (infantry preferring to wield polearms). Goals include the destruction of Scotland and France, and the capturing of Jerusalem.
Kingdom of France (Azure, three fleurs-de-lis Argent) - Possesses superior heavy cavalry (gendarmes, lancers), strong professional armies and good all round units in the late period, however lacks effective early period infantry. Goals include the destruction of England and the capturing of Jerusalem.
Holy Roman Empire (Sable, a double-headed eagle displayed Or) - Strong all around, but lacks specialized late-period units. Goals include the destruction of Milan and Denmark and the capturing of Rome,
Republic of Venice (Gules, a winged lion or) - Excellent infantry (Venetian heavy infantry), militia (Italian spear militia, broken lances etc) and colonial units, but poor cavalry. Goals include the destruction of Milan and the Byzantines and the capturing of Constantinople.
Kingdom of Castile/Spain (Or, a castle triple-towered gules) - Powerful early-game cavalry (Jinetes), good late-period technology and have professional armies. Goals include the destruction of the Moors and Portugal, and the capture of Granada and Jerusalem.
:siren:You have to beat the game campaign once to get these factions.:siren:
Byzantine Empire - purple and white (purple dominant); Byzantine units show a blend of Western (good heavy infantry) and Eastern (excellent missile cavalry and archers) influences. Excellent all around Early Period infantry units like Varangian Guard and missile cavalry, but lack of Late Period units and gun technology (highest level of artillery is bombard) and cavalry are weak. Can recruit professional soldiers in cities (Byzantine Infantry, Varangian Guard) with proper construction of barracks. At the beginning of their campaign, you are Emperor Alexius Comnenus, and his historical daughter Anna Comnenus.
Kingdom of Denmark (white raven on a red field) - representing the Norse Scandanavian countries - Special units are Vikings (Viking raiders, dismounted huscarls); infantry mostly use axes instead of spears or swords, making them effective against armour but weak against cavalry; limited archers.
Egyptian Sultanate - representing the Fatimid and successive dynasties - yellow and black (yellow dominant) excellent cavalry, such as mamluks, but weak infantry.
Kingdom of Hungary - salmon pink and green (salmon pink dominant); Strong cavalry but lacking in effective basic infantry, can generate Battlefield Assassins with proper building of Assassins' Guild and/or Inn.
Duchy of Milan (linked with Genoa) - green and white (green dominant); strong Italian militias and excellent crossbowmen (Genoese Crossbowmen); excellent Late-Period technology; poor cavalry (with exception of Famiglia Ducale: elite heavy cavalry unit from the duke's family).
Moors - representing the Almoravid dynasty - orange and white (orange dominant); Useful fusion of Camel cavalry and spearmen; has few, but effective, late-period units like Camel Gunners.
Poland - red and white (white dominant, white eagle on a red field); Possess excellent cavalry (hussars and Polish nobles) but poor infantry.
Portugal - (linked with Pamplona) - white and light blue (white dominant); Many units (such as arquebusiers and javelinmen) improved over normal units and excellent late-period technology and best navy in the game, however lack late period professional armies and heavy cavalry tend to be fairly weak.
Russia - dark blue and red (dark blue dominant); Possess the best cavalry and missile cavalry in the game (Tsar's Guard, Dvor Cavalry) and some excellent archers (Dismounted Dvor archers), and great firearm troops, but poor Early Period infantry and lacking in powerful defensive heavy infantry.
Kingdom of Scotland - dark blue and white (dark blue dominant); Excellent pikemen and skilled archers and heavy infantry, but has little variety in cavalry and faction lacks any kind of notable gun technology aside from artillery.
Kingdom of Sicily - grey and black (grey dominant); mix of units including Muslim archers, Italian militia units and Norman knights, but cavalry is poor. However, it can field Chivalric Knights.
Turks - representing the Seljuk dynasty (Early Period) and Ottoman Empire (Late Period) - green and yellow (green dominant); Game's strongest siege artillery upon inclusion of gunpowder as well as powerful late game infantry and ranged units, especially janissaries, but poor armour.
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Second best game ever!
Rome: Total War is the best. ;)
Whoever took those screenshots needs to start reading his messages
Excellent game. Heavy cavalry are a bit strong, though, even against spearmen. I have all but conquered the map as the Holy Roman Empire. Mongols and Timurids seem unbeatable, though.
[QUOTE=Canesfan]Excellent game. Heavy cavalry are a bit strong, though, even against spearmen. I have all but conquered the map as the Holy Roman Empire. Mongols and Timurids seem unbeatable, though.[/QUOTE]
Do you have your spearmen stationary, so they can brace for the impact?
[QUOTE=MadAltm]Do you have your spearmen stationary, so they can brace for the impact?[/QUOTE]
Most would assume that if I knew enough to conquer 90% of the map that I would know how to use my spearmen :-)
[QUOTE=Canesfan]Most would assume that if I knew enough to conquer 90% of the map that I would know how to use my spearmen :-)[/QUOTE]
Well all I know is that I can handle heavy cavalry with spearmen just fine, on Very Hard.
Here's a very useful forum for all your Medieval, Rome, and other Total War games.
[url]http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php[/url]
They have shit loads of mods. Stainless steel is an excellent mod. It adds a bunch of factions, traits, and smarter AI. It also replaces thousands of skins, flags, and mechanics. However, it requires the expansion, Kingdoms:Total War (which you should add to the thread)
[url]http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126810[/url]
(Stainless Steel introduction of the latest version).
Also, you don't have to beat the game once to unlock all the other factions. All you need is a little tweak in the config.
[quote]1. Go to your "Medieval II Total War" folder.
2. Right click on the preferences.cfg file, select the properties tab and uncheck the read only box, then open it with notepad.
3. Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the file.
4. Add the following lines:
[misc]
unlock_campaign = true
5. Save and exit the file.[/quote]
SOURCE, and FAQ of the game.
[url]http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68830#allfactions[/url]
Hoped I helped some of you guys out. I'm reccomending this game to anyone who likes managing a nation on a large scale, and chaotic fights on an even huger scale.
Some pictures I just took from my last battle
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There's a ton of great mods for this game too.
Stainless steel and Broken Crescent for example.
I find that epic battles seem incredibly difficult to manage, but are actually quite easy
[QUOTE=tankkiller]Goals include the destruction of Portugal[/QUOTE]
Yay! I get to destroy my own country! :holy:
This is a really fun game and I conquered the world with Spain :)
Only problem is I can run everything on max except AA. If I even just put it on 2x AA my game will run like a slide show.
Something i have always wondered
Do you thing this will run on a Nvidia 6200?
Total War in general is a brilliant series and i can wait for Empires to release later this year.
Conquered the world with England, France and in my latest game i've only taken most of Europe with Venice.
I wish they'd make one where you could design your own defences, and maybe bring it into the gunpowder age with fortified blockhouses and proper unit cover and things.
[QUOTE=chris0132]I wish they'd make one where you could design your own defences, and maybe bring it into the gunpowder age with fortified blockhouses and proper unit cover and things.[/QUOTE]
Geez you don't ask for much do you?
WOOH DENMARK!
Vikings are epic.
I played the demo and I suck at it.
I thought the original was better to tell you the truth
I never liked managing the battles. I always just had the computer do it.
[QUOTE=gankspank]Geez you don't ask for much do you?[/QUOTE]
What's the point in asking for less?
Whenever I see a documentary or anything on battles where people line up in front of each other and go at it, I just keep thinking 'You total idiots. You could beat them easily if you just used a bit of thought rather than sitting there doing shite all. Just get archers to follow the column and pick off troops, you'll have hardly any losses and they'll lose guys like mad before you even start the battle.'
[QUOTE=chris0132]What's the point in asking for less?
Whenever I see a documentary or anything on battles where people line up in front of each other and go at it, I just keep thinking 'You total idiots. You could beat them easily if you just used a bit of thought rather than sitting there doing shite all. Just get archers to follow the column and pick off troops, you'll have hardly any losses and they'll lose guys like mad before you even start the battle.'[/QUOTE]
The problem is: when your archers can reach their troops, their archers can also reach yours.
Damnit I wish I could play this game. I bought it a few months ago when I had my old computer. I got a new one at Christmas and thought I should try this out again. After two days of updating, I get this marvelous, "Medieval II: Total War has encountered an unspecified error and is a fucking bastard.".
I've asked around on the Total War forums too and no one can help me. Could someone PM me if they think they could help? I've tried pretty much everything.
[QUOTE=Killuah]The problem is: when your archers can reach their troops, their archers can also reach yours.[/QUOTE]
Not if you're using longbows.
And not if you're on elevated ground.
And not if you're firing from woodland or hedgerows or other forms of cover.
This game annoyed me. Rome Total War was much better.
[QUOTE=chris0132]I wish they'd make one where you could design your own defences, and maybe bring it into the gunpowder age with fortified blockhouses and proper unit cover and things.[/QUOTE]
They are.
Empire: Total War. Napoleonic era and the American Colonies. Due out in 2008.
The medieval series is possibly the best RTS series ever. I'd disagree that Rome is better, Medieval has everything Rome has, only enhanced. I'd say people would only prefer Rome because they like the time period more.
I like the Medieval time period more than the Roman time period, but I haven't gotten around to picking this game up yet.
I will after I get my new computer though.
I find that RTW does not slow down as much as MTW2 does. I really do enjoy quantity over quality in a RTS.
[QUOTE=chris0132]Not if you're using longbows.
And not if you're on elevated ground.
And not if you're firing from woodland or hedgerows or other forms of cover.[/QUOTE]
Then by all means place your longbowmen on high ground and in bushes. If the rest of your force isn't directly surrounding them they'll just get run down by cavalry.
But yeah, at any rate, the total war series is the absolute best rts series ever.
I'm thinking I should buy this now even though I'm not getting my new computer for about a week.
I can't remember how well I ran the demo but I know it wasn't horrible.
Can someone post the minimum/recommended stats for me?
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