Command & Conquer 4 - Not getting LAN support or Dedicated Servers - Games

[quote]Based on the precedent set by your reaction to similar news for StarCraft 2 and Modern Warfare 2, we're guessing you're not going to like the information Command & Conquer 4 lead designer Sam Bass recently shared with Destructoid. According to him, the FMV-filled strategy title won't provide any LAN or dedicated server support to its players. These two features were apparently struck from the game in favor of a server-based character progression system. Bass explained "if you go to another machine -- friend's house, Internet café -- whatever, you can login with your profile and all the stuff you've unlocked is accessible to you there. It all lives on a server so you can't really do dedicated servers with that." He also explained that the game's online networking is "a lot more solid," so you won't be left completely high and dry, as far as multiplayer skirmishes are concerned. Still, we're worried about the future of the LAN-friendly strategy game, which appears to be turning into an endangered species. We've contacted Bono to see if he'd lend his musical support to a charity concert event.[/quote] [url]http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/20/command-and-conquer-4-wont-have-lan-support-or-dedicated-servers/[/url] I know. It's Command & Conquer 4. Most the people here aren't looking forward to the game anyway, but this is getting stupid. How the hell is the game gonna be anything more than one campaign session and a couple of multiplayer games if there's no LAN support? I'll tell you, it doesn't. This is a game for the fanboys. The people who don't care about LAN because they've already alienated all their friends. I don't like blaming people, but I'm starting to get pissed at Activision/IW.

Even though EA ruined the CnC franchise a long while ago, this is still pretty damn stupid.

I was actually looking forward to CNC4. Well, there's another sixty dollars EA won't be getting.

What the fuck is going on? All of my favorite franchises are being butchered. when this shit will stop? fucking game developers don't even care anymore.

As soon as C&C3 came out, I thought "The C&C Franchise, is going down hill a a bit", then when C&C4 was announced I was pretty much dazzled and pissed off about "No base building! NO RESOURCE HARVESTING! NO FACTORIES!" and as soon as I read this thread, I was fucking shocked by lightning.

It's been known for ages that there wont be LAN support, hardly a surprise about the lack of dedis.

This is a piece of shit and the creators are making this shit just to get money from the fans.

What the fuck is going on? Are they doing this simply to bash the PC gaming market? I mean what the fuck. [editline]02:22PM[/editline] No one listens to the consumers anymore.

Did you really need to include the part about dedicated servers in the title? I can't think of a single RTS that has ever had dedicated servers.

[QUOTE=The_Marine;20350648]Did you really need to include the part about dedicated servers in the title? I can't think of a single RTS that has ever had dedicated servers.[/QUOTE] The Allies & Axis game had Dedi's World in Conflict had Dedi's. Most RTS's have dedi's.

They just keep digging a deeper grave for themselves.

Very few RTS' have dedicated servers anyway, COH is all P2P and I don't recall it having LAN (not sure about that) but no one complained about that. I am one of the very few people who are looking forward to the changes made in C&C4, I kinda like the whole class system, I usually like playing turtle in C&C and that pretty much meant I couldn't play online in the old games.

[QUOTE=James0890;20351208]Very few RTS' have dedicated servers anyway, COH is all P2P and I don't recall it having LAN (not sure about that) but no one complained about that. I am one of the very few people who are looking forward to the changes made in C&C4, I kinda like the whole class system, I usually like playing turtle in C&C and that pretty much meant I couldn't play online in the old games.[/QUOTE] If i read right from this: [quote] "No base building! NO RESOURCE HARVESTING! NO FACTORIES!"[/quote] then it's going to suck. There's no point in playing it if you don't have to get resources for yourself, make your own army..or bases..

[QUOTE=Armotekma;20351273]If i read right from this: then it's going to suck. There's no point in playing it if you don't have to get resources for yourself, make your own army..or bases..[/QUOTE] By that logic most Relic games suck, DOWII had no none of that in the campaign.

I loved C&C3 that was a really good game (NOD ftw), C&C4 will suck indeed BUT i'm still going to play it because of the story (Kane.....<3). [editline]12:07AM[/editline] [quote=armotekma;20351273]there's no point in playing it if you don't have to get resources for yourself, make your own army..or bases..[/quote] *COUGH!* Z *COUGH!*

Wow. Developers keep going downhill.

[quote]you can login with your profile and all the stuff you've unlocked is accessible to you there. It all lives on a server so you can't really do dedicated servers with that[/quote]battlefield series anyone? Dedicateds and stats are tracked by their servers and heck, EA published that shit didn't they? They're retarded for making an excuse when they've done it in the past already. Just an half assed excuse, just say that we can't be arsed spending extra time for dedicated support when we already created matchmaking.

[QUOTE=Pinut;20351583]battlefield series anyone? I'm sure battlefield works like this IIRC and heck, EA published that shit didn't they? They're retarded for making an excuse when they've done it in the past already.[/QUOTE] But Battlefield still has dedicated servers.

[QUOTE=Tac Error;20351625]But Battlefield still has dedicated servers.[/QUOTE] my point. after reading what I posted I realise it sounds like I'm meaning it works like they're saying C&C4 is... Will fix that :v:

Played the beta and it sucked bad, but this just crosses the line.

It's so you can't pirate it and play online through hamachi. That's the only reason

Yeah, whatever they say, just som DRM bullshit. Pathetic how they try to mask it - it's the same with Assassins Creed II.

[QUOTE=Dr Nick;20349246][url]http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/20/command-and-conquer-4-wont-have-lan-support-or-dedicated-servers/[/url] I know. It's Command & Conquer 4. Most the people here aren't looking forward to the game anyway, but this is getting stupid. How the hell is the game gonna be anything more than one campaign session and a couple of multiplayer games if there's no LAN support? I'll tell you, it doesn't. This is a game for the fanboys. The people who don't care about LAN because they've already alienated all their friends. I don't like blaming people, but I'm starting to get pissed at Activision/IW.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's a game for the fanboys. I'm a C&C fanboy and I have no desire to touch this game anymore. It's for the more profitable market; it's a game for the casuals now.

aka "register your game so you can't resell your copy". Nothing to do with piracy. Hey, as far as I know, Supreme Commander 2 is going to have LAN support and won't force people to stay connected to a server for nothing. Let's go see if that's any good...

[QUOTE=Jebus;20357312]I don't think it's a game for the fanboys. I'm a C&C fanboy and I have no desire to touch this game anymore. It's for the more profitable market; it's a game for the casuals now.[/QUOTE] More like a game for the many half-brained people out there that hail EA that seem to think that they actually DEVELOP games like Battlefield, L4D, etc. I play casual occasionally, and I wouldn't even BREATHE on this shit.

Command And Conquer died ages ago. Now its fucking festering in the ground.

Seriously, what the fuck is with the "No LAN or Ded. Servers" trend lately?

Let me start utorrent, i bet the fine for pirating is gonna be cheaper then the cnc4 itself...

And I though they could not fuck it up more then they had already. :geno:

[QUOTE=James0890;20351208]Very few RTS' have dedicated servers anyway, COH is all P2P and I don't recall it having LAN (not sure about that) but no one complained about that. I am one of the very few people who are looking forward to the changes made in C&C4, I kinda like the whole class system, I usually like playing turtle in C&C and that pretty much meant I couldn't play online in the old games.[/QUOTE] COH has LAN. I play using Hamachi with a friend as he pirated it. No, I didn't pirate it.