Does world of warcraft just keep gettling less challenging?? - Games

when i started i thought it was continue to be at least a little challenging, but its just not hard at all! damn what do you think?

Icecrown citadel is pissing me off... the final fight against the Lich King should be hard as hell however they are giving raid buffs and nerfing the bosses -.-

As you get better at your class it would seem pretty logical that WoW becomes less challenging.

[QUOTE=Spaztastik;20587570]Icecrown citadel is pissing me off... the final fight against the Lich King should be hard as hell however they are giving raid buffs and nerfing the bosses -.-[/QUOTE] turn the buff off then and stop crying.

Pray that Cataclysm will be as good as BC.

[QUOTE=Spaztastik;20587570]Icecrown citadel is pissing me off... the final fight against the Lich King should be hard as hell however they are giving raid buffs and nerfing the bosses -.-[/QUOTE] Please... Don't try to do whatever you do. If you do something for a long time, it's natural it becomes easy to you after a while.

WoW's not become easier. Players that have been playing for a while have become more accustomed to the mechanics of the game so it makes it harder for Blizzard to raise the bar when it comes to end-game content. They stick with what they know and for some it can seem easy.

Was it ever a challenge?

[QUOTE=Spaztastik;20587570]Icecrown citadel is pissing me off... the final fight against the Lich King should be hard as hell however they are giving raid buffs and nerfing the bosses -.-[/QUOTE] OH NO THEY WANT MORE THAN 2% OF PLAYERS TO SEE CONTENT THEY WORKED HARD ON FuCK YOU BLIZZZZZZZZ

The game is "easier" now because it isn't a buggy piece of shit like vanilla was. The bugs and imbalances caused vanilla to be artificially hard, a lot of people miss it because that's when they started, and when they learned to play. Foggy nostalgia goggles. On the battlecry page there's an interview with Tom Chilton that explains a lot [url]http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wowanniversary/interview/tomchilton.xml[/url]

[QUOTE=Spaztastik;20587570]Icecrown citadel is pissing me off... the final fight against the Lich King should be hard as hell however they are giving raid buffs and nerfing the bosses -.-[/QUOTE] They're making raid content accessible to all raiders, but still keeping the separation between normal and heroic mode. I believe that you can't activate heroic bosses with the buff active as well, so the serious raiders will still be that extra step ahead of casual raiders.

[QUOTE=Eluveitie;20589085]Pray that Cataclysm will be as good as BC.[/QUOTE] Yep. They should bring new shit. Nothing new was released in Wotlk except DKs and instances were just made simpler.

I believe the challenge in World of Warcraft is not the game itself but the retards who you have to group with. p.s. anyone who uses the icc buff in normal or heroic is a wet pussy bitch

[QUOTE=Jon1221;20599435]I believe the challenge in World of Warcraft is not the game itself but the retards who you have to group with. p.s. anyone who uses the icc buff in normal or heroic is a wet pussy bitch[/QUOTE] lol your post

[QUOTE=varj;20597554]Yep. They should bring new shit. Nothing new was released in Wotlk except DKs and instances were just made simpler.[/QUOTE] varj the pvp king *COUGH COUGH* thinks he knows pve

varj is a moron no doubt about it

[QUOTE=ketchup;20602860]varj the pvp king *COUGH COUGH* thinks he knows pve[/QUOTE] PreBC 40man and 15man instances, rank-farming PvP which was bad. BC brought new 25man instances and 10man instances, plus they brought whole new thing called Arena, which is pretty great imo. Also classes were made more deep. Druids could actually tank in BC, unlike in Vanilla. In wotlk, we got ridiculously easy opening wotlk content, nothing new pvp-wise except 2 arena maps (they were broken anyway). Sure, they finally did something about outdoor pvp, this wintergrasp, but then again it's only a free epics place, the fights are/were somewhat laggy and are ended quickly. Also, they didn't bring new races, they only brought this class which is for every race, was utterly overpowered (broken in a way) and thats it And now they think it's so good idea to have 2 different versions of bosses, separating hardcore pve people from rest rest of the crowd, so they can feel more better. [editline]06:38PM[/editline] That's just my opinion about Wotlk. All in all wotlk is the worst WoW so far. (Vanilla vs BC vs Wotlk, I mean) [editline]06:42PM[/editline] You might argue about these good new Wotlk features such as Built-in QuestHelper and all those, but in reality they are just (better?) copies of player made Add-ons. :v:

[QUOTE=varj;20611327]PreBC 40man and 15man instances, rank-farming PvP which was bad. BC brought new 25man instances and 10man instances, plus they brought whole new thing called Arena, which is pretty great imo. Also classes were made more deep. Druids could actually tank in BC, unlike in Vanilla. In wotlk, we got ridiculously easy opening wotlk content, nothing new pvp-wise except 2 arena maps (they were broken anyway). Sure, they finally did something about outdoor pvp, this wintergrasp, but then again it's only a free epics place, the fights are/were somewhat laggy and are ended quickly. Also, they didn't bring new races, they only brought this class which is for every race, was utterly overpowered (broken in a way) and thats it And now they think it's so good idea to have 2 different versions of bosses, separating hardcore pve people from rest rest of the crowd, so they can feel more better. [editline]06:38PM[/editline] That's just my opinion about Wotlk. All in all wotlk is the worst WoW so far. (Vanilla vs BC vs Wotlk, I mean) [editline]06:42PM[/editline] You might argue about these good new Wotlk features such as Built-in QuestHelper and all those, but in reality they are just (better?) copies of player made Add-ons. :v:[/QUOTE] Duuuude... you said it man

[QUOTE=Eluveitie;20589085]Pray that Cataclysm will be as good as BC.[/QUOTE] That's a good joke sir. [editline]09:20AM[/editline] [QUOTE=RetaDepa;20589314]WoW's not become easier. Players that have been playing for a while have become more accustomed to the mechanics of the game so it makes it harder for Blizzard to raise the bar when it comes to end-game content. They stick with what they know and for some it can seem easy.[/QUOTE] Nope, pretty sure it's just easier.

[QUOTE=varj;20611327]PreBC 40man and 15man instances, rank-farming PvP which was bad. BC brought new 25man instances and 10man instances, plus they brought whole new thing called Arena, which is pretty great imo. Also classes were made more deep. Druids could actually tank in BC, unlike in Vanilla. In wotlk, we got ridiculously easy opening wotlk content, nothing new pvp-wise except 2 arena maps (they were broken anyway). Sure, they finally did something about outdoor pvp, this wintergrasp, but then again it's only a free epics place, the fights are/were somewhat laggy and are ended quickly. Also, they didn't bring new races, they only brought this class which is for every race, was utterly overpowered (broken in a way) and thats it And now they think it's so good idea to have 2 different versions of bosses, separating hardcore pve people from rest rest of the crowd, so they can feel more better. [editline]06:38PM[/editline] That's just my opinion about Wotlk. All in all wotlk is the worst WoW so far. (Vanilla vs BC vs Wotlk, I mean) [editline]06:42PM[/editline] You might argue about these good new Wotlk features such as Built-in QuestHelper and all those, but in reality they are just (better?) copies of player made Add-ons. :v:[/QUOTE] Yep. DUNGEON FINDER IS A COPY OF AN ADDON. RANDOM BGS IS A COPY OF BETTER MADE ADDON. Arena was a mistake btw, so it's no surprise Blizzard didn't add onto it. As I said above, in case you missed my BLATANT sarcasm. Blizzard wants more than 3% of the players to see content. There is nothing wrong with that. It's like creating a beautiful piece of art, and have maybe 3 people out of 10,000 see it. If instances are really "easy" as you say, I would love to see your Algalon achievement, your Tribute achievement, your Heroic LK kill, all of it. If not, then would you kindly shut the fuck up? [QUOTE=hypermant;20612106]Nope, pretty sure it's just easier.[/QUOTE] Nope, pretty sure you're an idiot.

[QUOTE=varj;20611327]PreBC 40man and 15man instances, rank-farming PvP which was bad. BC brought new 25man instances and 10man instances, plus they brought whole new thing called Arena, which is pretty great imo. Also classes were made more deep. Druids could actually tank in BC, unlike in Vanilla. In wotlk, we got ridiculously easy opening wotlk content, nothing new pvp-wise except 2 arena maps (they were broken anyway). Sure, they finally did something about outdoor pvp, this wintergrasp, but then again it's only a free epics place, the fights are/were somewhat laggy and are ended quickly. Also, they didn't bring new races, they only brought this class which is for every race, was utterly overpowered (broken in a way) and thats it And now they think it's so good idea to have 2 different versions of bosses, separating hardcore pve people from rest rest of the crowd, so they can feel more better. [editline]06:38PM[/editline] That's just my opinion about Wotlk. All in all wotlk is the worst WoW so far. (Vanilla vs BC vs Wotlk, I mean) [editline]06:42PM[/editline] You might argue about these good new Wotlk features such as Built-in QuestHelper and all those, but in reality they are just (better?) copies of player made Add-ons. :v:[/QUOTE] 1. ok they brought different amounts of players to raids. 2. arena was the biggest mistake ever. It's shit and they balance classes around it, you can't do both. Either make it a pve game or a pvp game, both cannot be done. it can't. Not correctly at least. They want every class to be "balanced" for pvp but it shouldn't be that way for pve. Rogues SHOULD do the most dps in the game, hybrids shouldn't be viable as everything, but they should bring buffs that help everyone else which is why you still take them. Healers should have to communicate when healing, so they don't overheal (instead of getting tunnelvision from looking at grid and healing anyone who's heal is less than 100%) and tanks should do less damage and take less damage than they do right now. Why isn't it like this? Because of pvp. Class makeup should be a factor. But it's really not. 3. druids shouldnt be able to tank, they can already do everything else in the game. 4. Didn't bring new races? Boo friggen hoo, races dont do anything, they just look different. 5. Yes dk's were overpowered, they're not anymore. 6. the only thing i somewhat agree with you is the heroic and non heroic, each instance should either be heroic or non heroic and not be able to be set. They should stop making 2 versions of each raid and instead make more different ones. [editline]06:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=hypermant;20612106]That's a good joke sir. [editline]09:20AM[/editline] Nope, pretty sure it's just easier.[/QUOTE] no what's made it easier is totally the players faults. Looking at strategies on tankspot, getting addons that tell you when and where to move, watching videos of fights to see exactly what they're like. And you know what's terrible? The fact that people still suck at moving out of things. The majority of the WoW community is retarded, and that's why things seem "easier" because even retarded people can experience all of the content.

[QUOTE=ketchup;20612137]Yep. DUNGEON FINDER IS A COPY OF AN ADDON. RANDOM BGS IS A COPY OF BETTER MADE ADDON. [/QUOTE] I never said dungeon finder was a copy of an addon? Nor random BGs, please read what I say. You just found 2 example that aren't copies of add-ons and you think you made my post completely meaningless, good job with that you newb. :)

[QUOTE=varj;20613965]I never said dungeon finder was a copy of an addon? Nor random BGs, please read what I say. You just found 2 example that aren't copies of add-ons and you think you made my post completely meaningless, good job with that you newb. :)[/QUOTE] "new wotlk features" specify next time you idiot, don't generalize. [editline]02:02PM[/editline] n1 on ignoring the rest of my post btw

[QUOTE=christarpMILLIO;20613595]1. ok they brought different amounts of players to raids. 2. arena was the biggest mistake ever. It's shit and they balance classes around it, you can't do both. Either make it a pve game or a pvp game, both cannot be done. it can't. Not correctly at least. They want every class to be "balanced" for pvp but it shouldn't be that way for pve. Rogues SHOULD do the most dps in the game, hybrids shouldn't be viable as everything, but they should bring buffs that help everyone else which is why you still take them. Healers should have to communicate when healing, so they don't overheal (instead of getting tunnelvision from looking at grid and healing anyone who's heal is less than 100%) and tanks should do less damage and take less damage than they do right now. Why isn't it like this? Because of pvp. Class makeup should be a factor. But it's really not. 3. druids shouldnt be able to tank, they can already do everything else in the game. 4. Didn't bring new races? Boo friggen hoo, races dont do anything, they just look different. 5. Yes dk's were overpowered, they're not anymore. 6. the only thing i somewhat agree with you is the heroic and non heroic, each instance should either be heroic or non heroic and not be able to be set. They should stop making 2 versions of each raid and instead make more different ones.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding me? 2. You said you can't have a both pve and pvp game? Well, it's already here, WoW. Both aspects of the game are played by MANY. So.. I don't get your point. Also, rogues should do the most dmg? What? Mages are just as Pure DPS classes as rogues. 3. Druids shouldn't be able to tank? They are shapeshifters for a reason, I don't even bother with you here. 4. Whatever, I just hope the next "Hero class" won't be as ridiculous as DK. 5. k. 6. Yay, let's be friends. [editline]09:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ketchup;20614028]"new wotlk features" specify next time you idiot, don't generalize. [editline]02:02PM[/editline] n1 on ignoring the rest of my post btw[/QUOTE] All I'm saying is that Wotlk has been the worst WoW of all 3.

[QUOTE=varj;20614077] All I'm saying is that Wotlk has been the worst WoW of all 3.[/QUOTE] And all I'm saying is that you're an idiot.

[QUOTE=varj;20614077]Are you kidding me? 2. You said you can't have a both pve and pvp game? Well, it's already here, WoW. Both aspects of the game are played by MANY. So.. I don't get your point. Also, rogues should do the most dmg? What? Mages are just as Pure DPS classes as rogues. 3. Druids shouldn't be able to tank? They are shapeshifters for a reason, I don't even bother with you here. 4. Whatever, I just hope the next "Hero class" won't be as ridiculous as DK. 5. k. 6. Yay, let's be friends. [editline]09:06PM[/editline] All I'm saying is that Wotlk has been the worst WoW of all 3.[/QUOTE] shitty pve and shitty pvp make up this game. I'd rather have good pvp or good pve. By saying rogues should do the most damage i meant pure dps classes. I just used rogues as an example, that was my bad on explaining that. I still strongly believe that druids shouldnt tank.

Rofl don't say that shit about druids. If druids shouldn't tank, why should they heal? What are they supposed to do in the first place? Being a bear is 1/4 aspects of the druid. [editline]09:12PM[/editline] Also, I can't find any other MMO that has +12million players, and has a better pve/pvp combined. WoW is a good game, no doubt. [editline]09:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ketchup;20614135]And all I'm saying is that you're an idiot.[/QUOTE] Why? Learn this game already :v:

as i said, because even retards can do anything.

[QUOTE=varj;20611327]Druids could actually tank in BC, unlike in Vanilla.[/QUOTE] My Karazhan raid's main tank was a druid, and this was before they fixed Lacerate. I quit playing for a few years because the raid leader refused to accept it.

I havnt played in ages..but my friend was talking to me about it, I used to heal as a Pally...and I guess now they are primarily prot... kinda of pisses me off