[URL]http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1866-Cataclysm-Beta-Build-12479[/URL] <- Mmochamps post about it
[URL]http://www.wowtal.com/#k=.9mn.priest[/URL] <- Talent Calculator
This is something i definently look forward too
These will obviously have minor or major configuration done to them over time, even before game gets released.
PS: Glyphs does not show
Look like absolute shit if I'm honest.
pretty cool
Don't know what to think of the warrior ones, victory rush becoming a skill to actually bother using now?
what is Lunar/Solar energy?
I like the idea, if they get it right it should be good. I'm not going to judge by the current ones since it's very early on.
[QUOTE=catch33;23367088]Look like absolute shit if I'm honest.[/QUOTE]
Well what they did was that they removed the boring talents, and the one you just specced in to come to next tier, so they made talents much more fun, although they will change this alot during Cataclysm and before that probably.
That looks terrible for warlocks. I know it is a very early concept for it but i don't want to combine shadow and fire talents so i have better incinerate and better shadow bolt just to get further down into the tree. The same for other specs, there are talents i don't want but i want to get further into the tree so i have to get them.
I like it! :biggrin:
I'm not saying the current trees confuse me, but I think this is easier to understand. It's a little more clear what talents you've got, it's easier to follow all of them. Especially if you're new to the game and you can't keep track of all these points in a tree... Sometimes you forget you have things available to you.
I can't wait to level up a lowbie character, to get deal breaking spells straight at level 10. So awesome!
Hunters - Aspect of the Fox
Hmmmmm.
EDIT: 1,300th post.
EDIT2: Check out the hunter BM talent tree. It's a little messed up.
[QUOTE=PayamT;23367552]Well what they did was that they removed the boring talents, and the one you just specced in to come to next tier, so they made talents much more fun, although they will change this alot during Cataclysm and before that probably.[/QUOTE]
So what happens to all the benefits from those 'boring' talents I had previously? Are they just generally nerfing all classes, because it certainty seems like it.
Also, I think it's a bit stupid to call these talents 'boring' (as in Blizzard, not you), they are hugely generalizing the opinion of their userbase. All it is doing is damaging the people who like these talents, as the 'fun' talents are still in place.
So far I'm very displeased with these changes! Another thing that really fucking annoys me is what they're doing to the druid tree form. I recently started levelling a new druid with the intention of healing end game content, and I like the tree forms appearance more than the actual Tauren model. Now I'm going to be stuck in fucking cow mode. Ugh.
I agree with you on the tree form being a thing like metamorphosis. You are a shapeshifting druid, that seems just as stupid as making bear form, cat form, and moonkin form temporary boosts.
[QUOTE=Ithae;23369461]Hunters - Aspect of the Fox
Hmmmmm.
EDIT: 1,300th post.
EDIT2: Check out the hunter BM talent tree. It's a little messed up.[/QUOTE]
Where is it messed up?
And yes, Hmmmmm.
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Venom? (See Chimaera Shot)
Sure, they removed the "boring talents", but I expected them to replace them all with "fun talents" and keep the 71-point formula.
This doesn't improve anything, it just makes for less variety in specs.
Cry more to those who think it sucks.
Also most are placeholder talents so they will change.
Some of this shit is pissing me off. You have to cast ardent defender now? Bullshit.
[QUOTE=NickFury666;23375210]Some of this shit is pissing me off. You have to cast ardent defender now? Bullshit.[/QUOTE]
uhh this is a good thing. adds an element of intelligence to one of the most brain-dead abilities in the game.
right now, Ardent Defender is a second chance and a slap on the wrist to get your act together. it should be something that requires some input, makes for a smarter player who should know what kind of challenge they're dealing with
[QUOTE=NickFury666;23375210]Some of this shit is pissing me off. You have to cast ardent defender now? Bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Cry more. That was a terribly overpowered talent in the first place.
As a very casual, on-off player of WoW, I don't think this is too terribly bad. The one thing that I have a HUGE problem with though is not being allowed to invest in other trees until you have 31 points in one of your trees. To me, that seems like they're forcing most characters into cookie cutter builds.
[QUOTE=Street_Wolf;23382876]As a very casual, on-off player of WoW, I don't think this is too terribly bad. The one thing that I have a HUGE problem with though is not being allowed to invest in other trees until you have 31 points in one of your trees. To me, that seems like they're forcing most characters into cookie cutter builds.[/QUOTE]
It looks like to me that there is going to be hardly any variation within each spec, which sucks dick. I really hate these changes, I might even stop playing because of them.
well ive been testing the game since 11 this morning and the new trees are SOOO much better it will help so any newbies to the game its incredibly clear and as blizz have said as soon as you slect a tree you get the affects right away such as if you go frost with mages you get your elemental straight away
[QUOTE=PayamT;23367552]Well what they did was that they removed the boring talents, and the one you just specced in to come to next tier, so they made talents much more fun, although they will change this alot during Cataclysm and before that probably.[/QUOTE]
Actually the 31 point talents made me a bit dissapointed..I thought they would delete the boring and have 51 fun ones, but instead they delete boring ones and instead of making new they just made it 31 point...
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Fuck I want a beta key but I have no gametime atm, gonna wait for cata launch since raiding ICC after you've killed LK is pretty pointless.
Stop crying everyone, it's all for the good, and it will be better else they wouldn't change it
They dumbed it down even more.
Aspect of the Viper is gone, replaced by Aspect of the Fox, right?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23391052]They dumbed it down even more.[/QUOTE]
all they have done is removed passives and lowered the points how is that dumbing it down ?
if any thing it makes it take alot more thought and planning before putting points in something
As it stands the rogue trees seem very bloated. Assassination has 3 talents I wouldn't like for PvP, and even then one of them is pretty good in certain combos. As for combat you could pretty much fill the entire tree and be happy given the points. I don't see the benefit of these smaller trees, other than simplicity for new-comers. They only cause problems for more interested players (lack of hybrid specs etc.). In addition to this many skills which are considered vital are being removed e.g Scatter Shot.
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[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;23393661]all they have done is removed passives and lowered the points how is that dumbing it down ?
if any thing it makes it take alot more thought and planning before putting points in something[/QUOTE]
No more hybrids?
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