juicero, maker of the doomed $400 internet-connected juicer, is shutting down - Sensationalist Headlines

[URL]https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/1/16243356/juicero-shut-down-lay-off-refund[/URL] [quote]Juicero, the company that made its name by creating a proprietary juice-squeezing machine, is shutting down. The announcement comes from Juicero's website. In its post, the company writes that it is suspending the sale of both its juice packets and its Juicero Press device. The last juice packet delivery will occur next week. All customers have up to 90 days to request a refund for their purchase of the Juicero Press, regardless of when they bought it. Fortune reports that employees are being given 60 days notice.[/quote] to the surprise of no one. for those who don't know what juicero was here's a video demonstrating it [video=youtube;PCRx78Zhj7s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCRx78Zhj7s[/video]

Feel bad for the employees but it's a good thing overall, it was daylight robbery

the funny thing is they are discontinuing the juicero brand juice bags. and the juicero can only press those bags. meaning that the moment they stop production you really are going to get stuck with 400 dollar presser that can't even do it's purpose. a literal paperweight

it was really only a matter of time

[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;52638271]the funny thing is they are discontinuing the juicero brand juice bags. and the juicero can only press those bags. meaning that the moment they stop production you really are going to get stuck with 400 dollar presser that can't even do it's purpose. a literal paperweight[/QUOTE] Anyone can request a refund regardless of when they bought it. So hopefully this gets around to all of those poor, misguided souls

[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;52638271]the funny thing is they are discontinuing the juicero brand juice bags. and the juicero can only press those bags. meaning that the moment they stop production you really are going to get stuck with 400 dollar presser that can't even do it's purpose. a literal paperweight[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]All customers have up to 90 days to request a refund for their purchase of the Juicero Press, regardless of when they bought it.[/QUOTE] ? edit: fuc

And here we see the final and greatest folly of the Juicero: having to buy a new juicer when its manufacturer is shuttered How anyone bought one seriously, and not as a joke, is beyond me

The employees if they had half a brain must have known it was a roller coaster ride coming to an end.

Didn't this thing even get funding and endorsements from a whole bunch of high profile people

[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;52638271]the funny thing is they are discontinuing the juicero brand juice bags. and the juicero can only press those bags. meaning that the moment they stop production you really are going to get stuck with 400 dollar presser that can't even do it's purpose. a literal paperweight[/QUOTE] nah man, surely they will release a software update that disables the drm actually, did anyone try to hack the thing?

[QUOTE=aurum481;52638353]nah man, surely they will release a software update that disables the drm actually, did anyone try to hack the thing?[/QUOTE] even if you hack it, it literally cannot do anything other than crush the pre-packaged fruit bags so there'd be no point to removing the DRM

[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;52638336]Didn't this thing even get funding and endorsements from a whole bunch of high profile people[/QUOTE] Google funded 120 million into it

[QUOTE=aurum481;52638353]nah man, surely they will release a software update that disables the drm actually, did anyone try to hack the thing?[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlVmppyflS0[/media] to sum it up: he tears out most of the electronics and just runs the motor directly.

Watch it come out in four or five years that the whole thing was a money-laundering front. :v: I mean, I just can't imagine how anyone would have the clout to get the funding, set up production equipped and skilled to build such a finely-engineered (if pointless) machine, but not have the brains to forsee exactly what was going to happen if they actually tried to market a $400 juice-bag presser with mandatory wifi DRM and pulp bag subscriptions. Then again, I've been told that living in Silicon Valley is a social bubble unlike anywhere else in the world, and if you make the dangerous mistake of coming to believe all of America lives like San Francisco does, I can see thinking a pulp bag presser would be great. I can honestly see this business model working, but you'd have to change things: - re-engineer the device to be something more clever than an automated press and reduce the cost under $100 or less instead of shipping a braindead overengineered hunk of metal - come up with a more clever solution for the juicing than shipping pre-pulped fruit bags, like little pre-measured packets of actual fruit with a crushing mechanism on the machine that filters out seeds and thick pulp, which will reduce preprocessing costs - keep delivery markets to [I]local[/I] only; establish a distribution market in San Francisco and deliver your fruit cups and bespoke yuppie hipster juicer within the metropolitan area; branch out with subscriptions into constrained delivery scenarios in neighbouring communities; repeat and scale in other major cities. If it isn't delivered on a truck the same day it's packed, you're doing it wrong, and if it goes in an airplane you fucked it all up and need to be fired. Doing this would actually create an inexpensive juicer, fruit "refills" that can be enjoyed as (expensive) snacks as well as requiring significantly less processing effort (no need to pulp and seal, you can hand someone a box with eight of [URL="https://www.berryhilldrip.com/images/P/clamshell.jpg"]these kinds of containers[/URL] full of mixed berries, a farmer's market could do this shit) and therefore cost, and the costs of transport would be dramatically reduced. As hipster millenial as it would be to have a subscription for pre-measured fruit packets because I'm too lazy to actually take handfuls of berries and throw them into my smoothie on my own, I'd do it. The convenience of having fresh fruit shipped pre-washed and sorted into my favourite blend at a relatively stable price that was only a bit more than mid-season median fruit prices would make me pull the trigger, because I wouldn't have to think about it and forget to pick fruit up on grocery runs and then go back for them and come out with $20 in shit I didn't need/mean to buy. Fucking, give me $100 million, Silicon Valley, I can put on a tie and smile a lot and show arbitrarily-sourced growth projection charts too.

[video=youtube;tOgIHOtSZGo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOgIHOtSZGo[/video] this is really a mandatory addendum to any thread about juicero i'm not surprised they crashed and burned with that sort of public response a product that becomes instantaneously useless when its company sinks (or your internet fucks up), made by a company with NO guarantee it won't immediately eat shit and die, is a massive risk for a consumer

[QUOTE=Luni;52638287] How anyone bought one seriously, and not as a joke, is beyond me[/QUOTE] To be fair anyone who paid $400 for this POS as a joke is pretty fucking stupid too.

Last time we saw this on FP I said this was a waste of resources and everyone who gave it money was completely retarded So I agree with elixwhitetail. It's a money laundering scheme. A very smart one. Or just people trying to do something thinking they are making something useful...when it's not.

[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52638376][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlVmppyflS0[/media] to sum it up: he tears out most of the electronics and just runs the motor directly.[/QUOTE] Worth mentioning: shitty practices aside like essentially DRMing fruit bags, its a really well made machine. Almost a sin to have such well made device fall like this.

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52638471]Worth mentioning: shitty practices aside like essentially DRMing fruit bags, its a really well made machine. Almost a sin to have such well made device fall like this.[/QUOTE] the problems were mostly 1. pr: shit (both originally, and in their puerile response to people squeezing the bags with their hands) 2. parts: way too expensive 3. practicality: not there (see: hands) 4. drm: uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh if there was a reason it failed, it wasn't just its merits as a thing-what-presses-juice, it was the heaving, asinine weight of silicon valley trends

[QUOTE=Vitisus;52638449][video=youtube;tOgIHOtSZGo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOgIHOtSZGo[/video] this is really a mandatory addendum to any thread about juicero i'm not surprised they crashed and burned with that sort of public response a product that becomes instantaneously useless when its company sinks (or your internet fucks up), made by a company with NO guarantee it won't immediately eat shit and die, is a massive risk for a consumer[/QUOTE] it still really really annoys me every time she says "juice" e: or "pack" e2: or "press" e3: or "it" or any word really her voice is really irritating

[QUOTE=Vitisus;52638484]the problems were mostly 1. pr: shit (both originally, and in their puerile response to people squeezing the bags with their hands) 2. parts: way too expensive 3. practicality: not there (see: hands) 4. drm: uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh if there was a reason it failed, it wasn't just its merits as a thing-what-presses-juice, it was the heaving, asinine weight of silicon valley trends[/QUOTE] What really killed it, imo, was the cost of the refrigerated coolers your fresh fruit pulp bags shipped in via airmail, so the subscription fees were ludicrous. It would be cheaper to go to the store, buy your own fruit at [U]off-season[/U] prices, blend it, pulp it, and pour it into a reused bag, and make your own hipster Capri Suns. If the Juicero hardware was $400 but the fruit bags were like $1 each and available in grocery stores everywhere, I think there'd be some Facepunchers enjoying the guilty pleasure of freshly-pressed DRM'd fruit juice today. I'd probably just buy the bags without the press, if the flavours were any good. :v:

Why are they giving refunds for the juicer? Like I'm not in any way against it, but how does it make sense for a company that is shutting down to refund people?

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52638539]Why are they giving refunds for the juicer? Like I'm not in any way against it, but how does it make sense for a company that is shutting down to refund people?[/QUOTE] Keeps the lawsuits, which would be for more than $400, away. Especially with California's steroid-abusing consumer protection laws.

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52638471]Worth mentioning: shitty practices aside like essentially DRMing fruit bags, its a really well made machine. Almost a sin to have such well made device fall like this.[/QUOTE] No, it's a shame that this level of engineering and design went into a fucking WORTHLESS JUICING MACHINE.

Why not release a product that's ~luxury~ where you just sell the juice bags in supermarkets... "Fresh squeezed, by you!"

[QUOTE=InfectedPotato;52638374]Google funded 120 million into it[/QUOTE] I don't see why people are surprised about the fact Google and other companies funded it, if you have a product that scans every item you're putting into it, you've built a data base on what that customer's eating. Wouldn't surprise me if they teamed up later with Google or Amazon later on and whoever was using it suddenly got ads talking about cold remedies if they were pressing a lot of vitamin C juices or workout gear for whey or whatever juices.

[QUOTE=Rastadogg;52638645]No, it's a shame that this level of engineering and design went into a fucking WORTHLESS JUICING MACHINE.[/QUOTE]As mentioned in the AvE video, this isn't engineered as there was no constraints, just overbuilt to hell and back.

weren't these things like stupidly overbuilt for a squeezer?

[QUOTE=Rastadogg;52638645]No, it's a shame that this level of engineering and design went into a fucking WORTHLESS JUICING MACHINE.[/QUOTE] *worthless bag squishing machine

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cp-BGQfpHQ[/media] ya this whole thing was obviously put together by someone who knew nothing of industrial design, mechatronics, machining, or anything really. Hell, i'm not a machinist but I know what it takes to make half this crap for aerospace and this is ridiculous [editline]1st September 2017[/editline] props on the design firm though, they must have been laughing their asses off after jucero approved their design