Eurogamer assures Pokémon Stars was real, reasons it died include the Switch being a huge success - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]A year ago, Eurogamer reported on Pokémon Stars, an expanded version of Pokémon Sun and Moon which sources had told us was then pegged for release on Nintendo Switch this Christmas. Except, as we now know, plans changed. So what happened to the Stars project? Why did Nintendo and The Pokémon Company change course, and what might Pokémon look like on Switch when it does arrive? A year on from our initial report, it's time to revisit Stars - and look to the future. Speak to a number of people with knowledge of the Stars project and a picture emerges that there was no single reason why development on Switch's first proper Pokémon changed course. A couple of points stand out, however. First, a growing belief in Switch's success - which meant Nintendo would not need a new Zelda, Mario and a new mainline Pokémon game within the console's first eight months. Stars - part-developed in parallel with Sun and Moon - would always have been a way to get Pokémon on Switch sooner rather than later. But, as the Switch's success has now borne out, Nintendo did not have to lean on Pikachu and friends to ensure it. Second to all of that was a desire to keep 3DS supported with games through 2017 - which lead to the birth of Ultra Sun and Moon, instead. While Nintendo was confident in Switch, moving Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon into development for launch on 3DS this Christmas instead ensured there was an established audience for this year's Pokémon game - and, more importantly, meant 3DS had a tentpole launch this winter. Lastly, while Stars had been planned and worked towards while Sun and Moon were in production, it never represented a true leap towards what a Pokémon designed for significantly more powerful hardware might be.[/quote] [url=http://archive.is/KrtPd]Eurogamer archive link[/url]

It seems outlandish to me that Nintendo would actually bring a dedicated, classic pokémon game to a home console, even one with a handheld mode. Isn't it a massive market for them to repeatedly sell upgrades to the same handheld system ? Wouldn't they lose that by allowing the handheld playerbase to shift to a console which is not upgraded as often and cannot really justify as many iterations as the 3DS got in its lifespan ?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52980436]It seems outlandish to me that Nintendo would actually bring a dedicated, classic pokémon game to a home console, even one with a handheld mode. Isn't it a massive market for them to repeatedly sell upgrades to the same handheld system ? Wouldn't they lose that by allowing the handheld playerbase to shift to a console which is not upgraded as often and cannot really justify as many iterations as the 3DS got in its lifespan ?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that when Nintendo said that the Switch wouldn't replace the wiiu or 3ds that it was when they were planning for anither potential flop. As the 3ds seems to be winding down in hardware production, the switch will no doubt take its place.

[QUOTE=Omali;52980472]I'm pretty sure that when Nintendo said that the Switch wouldn't replace the wiiu or 3ds that it was when they were planning for anither potential flop. As the 3ds seems to be winding down in hardware production, the switch will no doubt take its place.[/QUOTE] That's exactly what that "third pillar" statements means. They did the same thing with the DS, claiming that it wasn't replacing the Game Boy untill it did exactly that after making loadsamoney. While the Sun/Moon port is cancelled, the next Pokemon game is definately going to be on the Switch since the 3DS is on it's way out.

[QUOTE=Durrsly;52980483]That's exactly what that "third pillar" statements means. They did the same thing with the DS, claiming that it wasn't replacing the Game Boy untill it did exactly that after making loadsamoney. While the Sun/Moon port is cancelled, the next Pokemon game is definately going to be on the Switch since the 3DS is on it's way out.[/QUOTE] What if the future of Nintendo is full time Switch? No more strictly home, no more strictly handheld?

[url]http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/231/~/system-menu-update-history[/url] "Winding down", it's already dead aside from playing whackamole (they lost btw) with homebrew devs

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;52980532]What if the future of Nintendo is full time Switch? No more strictly home, no more strictly handheld?[/QUOTE] Sounds good to me. And I own 3 versions of the 3DS

I'm glad they're finally slowing down on the 3ds. I love the original ds like a baby and even I had major gripes with it. It just wasn't planned out well at all and was too underpowered. It feels very marked in the era of Nintendo that was best described as "Oh shit what the hell are you doing?" whereas the switch feels like they're learning from their mistakes.

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;52980561]I'm glad they're finally slowing down on the 3ds. I love the original ds like a baby and even I had major gripes with it. It just wasn't planned out well at all and was too underpowered. It feels very marked in the era of Nintendo that was best described as "Oh shit what the hell are you doing?" whereas the switch feels like they're learning from their mistakes.[/QUOTE] I disagree? The DS and 3DS were very successful and did their jobs well. The 3DS was actually satisfyingly powerful, for what it was, and I'm really sad to not see things such as StreetPass make a return. The only huge downside was how 3D was honestly "meh."

For dual screen games I'm guessing mobile will fill the role that the DS/3DS did. You can get VR/AR with it, portrait mode is like two tiny touchscreens and landscape offers widescreen gaming. You don't get the benefit of physical buttons but I see those "intense" games that require buttons staying on Switch and more experimental touch or dual screen type games to be made on mobile.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52980436]It seems outlandish to me that Nintendo would actually bring a dedicated, classic pokémon game to a home console, even one with a handheld mode. Isn't it a massive market for them to repeatedly sell upgrades to the same handheld system ? Wouldn't they lose that by allowing the handheld playerbase to shift to a console which is not upgraded as often and cannot really justify as many iterations as the 3DS got in its lifespan ?[/QUOTE] We also have news straight from Game Freak's mouth that states that Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were to be the last 3DS pokemon games. They've pushed the 3DS to its absolute limit. It would make sense to move to the Switch where there is more room to improve the game, and still retain the portability aspect of the series. I'm also fucking stoked to see what a Pokemon release on the Switch would be like. Maybe not as big a leap as say, 3DS Monster hunter vs. Monster Hunter World, but still an impressive leap regardless.

damn, feels like I just got my own 3ds :(

i'm glad they're done with pokemon on the 3ds, because the last two sets of games run like absolute arse on the both the o3ds and n3ds.

[QUOTE=Pen Straw;52980740]damn, feels like I just got my own 3ds :([/QUOTE] It did have a 7 year run....so we can't say it didn't have a good life. Plus, the good news about getting a 3DS now, you have an INSANE backlog of quality titles to pick from. Mario titles, monster hunter, bravely default, pokemon, LoZ link between worlds, and the list goes on and on.

I've always wanted a Pokemon game for a home TV console that had the mechanics of the main RPG games. I don't like fighting games so Pokken tournament wasn't for me, and I think that Pokemon Stadium and Colosseum refined the game down to just the combat which is the least appealing part of the game IMO. Without an overworld, exploration, sidequests, catching the pokemon in the wild etc. the game is unappealing to me. The only Pokemon games I liked outside of the main series were Mystery Dungeon and Pokemon Channel

here's hoping that Game Freak actually takes advantage of the technology to actually flesh out a complete RPG experience. the 3D games have been so feature-bare it hurts

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;52980672]I disagree? The DS and 3DS were very successful and did their jobs well. The 3DS was actually satisfyingly powerful, for what it was, and I'm really sad to not see things such as StreetPass make a return. The only huge downside was how 3D was honestly "meh."[/QUOTE] You're kidding right? The screen resolution was less than the psp, and the games were the same level of graphical fidelity. The system is anything but powerful, have you seen how gimped xenoblade chronicles and Hyrule warriors are on it? And those games are exclusive to the version with better hardware.

Sounds more like backpedaling

[QUOTE=Durrsly;52980483]That's exactly what that "third pillar" statements means. They did the same thing with the DS, claiming that it wasn't replacing the Game Boy untill it did exactly that after making loadsamoney. While the Sun/Moon port is cancelled, the next Pokemon game is definately going to be on the Switch since the 3DS is on it's way out.[/QUOTE] plus i'm pretty sure they announced the next pokemon is the last one on the 3ds.

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52981557]plus i'm pretty sure they announced the next pokemon is the last one on the 3ds.[/QUOTE] If you mean US/UM, that one already came out last month.