People are pissed about 'Star Wars Battlefront II' loot boxes
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[QUOTE]The [I]Star Wars Battlefront II[/I] beta kicked off this weekend and players discovered a problem: the loot box system is horrible.
Loot boxes in [I]Battlefront II[/I] are how players obtain new abilities and crafting materials to make and improve weapons, although it takes hours of playing to get a single loot box and the items inside are completely random. Of course, if you want to speed up the process to get better stuff, you can always spend real money on loot boxes.
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Petition to change UK gambling laws regarding games:
[URL]https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/201300[/URL]
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They could've at least went the overwatch way and make lootboxes contain purely cosmetics, but nooo, gotta get more sweet cash out of a $80 game
people are still going to buy it because theyll swallow anything with a label on it. "oh its star wars well i have to have that"
Damn and I was kinda looking forward to this
Yeah, I'm not even gonna consider this as a purchase. Real shame too, since the open beta was still fun to play.
I mean I'm ok with microtransactions, but not in every.... fucking.... game.
[QUOTE=Thomo;52765570]Welcome to the new age of AAA gaming where a season pass is not enough, gotta drain you for everything you've got.
Well they aren't getting my money and I made sure I told my friends about it as well who aren't in the know.[/QUOTE]
To be fair the new battlefront 2 is doing free dlc. Regardless, this practice is sitll terrible.
[QUOTE=Noah Gibbs;52765588]To be fair the new battlefront 2 is doing free dlc. Regardless, this practice is sitll terrible.[/QUOTE]
Free DLC is part of the scheme.
Just look at the fucking shit they are pulling with GTAO.
Nothing is reasonably priced.
Wow that crafting system is ludacris. The game requring you to obtain crafting matrial via the loot crates that may or may not actually have crafting matrial. The amount of unnecessary griding that is required just to unlock new guns and attachments is completely off putting. This is a pay to win system in my opinion, seeing how you can either purchase lootcrates or spend a considerable amount of time earning credits from games.
The beta’s lock boxes are not representative of the final game, it even says in the text on the UI.
I’m not defending the practice, just saying the beta version shouldn’t be taken as fact.
take a look at this:
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/?st=J8LMNHXN&sh=90b47980"]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/[/URL]
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/comment/do4s0v5?st=J8LMOVJ7&sh=bf55d3c3"]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/comment/[/URL]
Paid lootboxes have no place in full price games, not even for cosmetics.
This stupidity will persist while people buy their games. Vote with your wallet.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;52765635]Paid lootboxes have no place in full price games, not even for cosmetics.[/QUOTE]
I’d rather this then paid DLC splitting up the community
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765645]I’d rather this then paid DLC splitting up the community[/QUOTE]
Remember when multiplayer games just got updates over time and you didn't have to pay for DLC or microtransactions?
The good old days.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765645]I’d rather this then paid DLC splitting up the community[/QUOTE]
I would rather have dead games than rampant unregulated gambling.
I'm not even going to bother buying this off a secondhand site.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765645]I’d rather this then paid DLC splitting up the community[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have fully cosmetic microtransactions rather than either shit thats plaguing the community as a whole. Lootboxes are a cancer, especially ones that actually give you p2w-style content.
Don’t forget that they recently fixed the multiplayer for classic Battlefront 2! Just play that again, it’s a far better game.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765622]The beta’s lock boxes are not representative of the final game, it even says in the text on the UI.
I’m not defending the practice, just saying the beta version shouldn’t be taken as fact.
take a look at this:
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/?st=J8LMNHXN&sh=90b47980"]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/[/URL]
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/comment/do4s0v5?st=J8LMOVJ7&sh=bf55d3c3"]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/comment/[/URL][/QUOTE]
What incompetent entity at EA/DICE decided it would be best to leave the unfinished, unrepresentative version of the progression system that is bound to attract controversy and criticism in the public beta?
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765622]The beta’s lock boxes are not representative of the final game, it even says in the text on the UI.
I’m not defending the practice, just saying the beta version shouldn’t be taken as fact.
take a look at this:
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/?st=J8LMNHXN&sh=90b47980"]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/[/URL]
[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/comment/do4s0v5?st=J8LMOVJ7&sh=bf55d3c3"]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/comment/[/URL][/QUOTE]
So you can target more specific classes with RNG. Slightly better on the random nature of the progression, but still pay to win. Still, they cocked up if it takes a leak to get this info and only have themselves to blame.
Good. People should get pissed about this.
Battlefront 2 is, from what I've played, a genuinely fun game. If it wasn't for this bullshit it could have been great.
It's good to see people sending a message that shit like this isn't something we'll stand for.
Disappointed, especially since I actually enjoyed playing the beta.
My only hope is that the backlash from this ends up being too big for them to ignore.
Can we as an overall community at least attempt to take a stance on this? Please don't use the "it could be worse/At least it's not..." argument, that was used last time, and the time before.
EA has already been trying to get away with more and more each time with their sports games, they're just pushing what people will accept just [i]that little bit[/i] that you think "it's still fine" but by the time you notice it's too late.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHSso2vufPM[/media]
Jim also made a pretty good video regarding this subject. Not just about Battlefront but the scam scheme in general.
Didn't buy the first one and I won't buy this one. Play the original Battlefront 2 now that it's back if you want your fix.
You cannot support this kind of behavior, or else it'll keep happening.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765645]I’d rather this then paid DLC splitting up the community[/QUOTE]
Too fucking bad that we arent given a choice and have to put up with both this garbage AND DLC!
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52765645]I’d rather this then paid DLC splitting up the community[/QUOTE]
You've already been conditioned to think it's necessary to do some scummy shit, Rainbow Six: Siege has free maps and it sustains itself with season pass/cosmetic DLC. This is Ubisoft too for fucks sake.
I won't have a problem if they remove damage boosting cards.
i don't understand, if i was making all the money in the world i wouldn't do stuff like this, how do these people live with themselves?
[QUOTE=NA_PREDATOR;52765772]i don't understand, if i was making all the money in the world i wouldn't do stuff like this, how do these people live with themselves?[/QUOTE]
It's a business. They aren't benevolent, they want to milk you for as much money as possible.
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