[quote][B]Former US football star and actor OJ Simpson has been granted parole after nine years in a Nevada prison.[/B]"Thank you!" said the 70-year-old, bowing his head as the board approved him for release.
Simpson, who was acquitted for a double murder in 1995, has been serving time for armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and 10 other charges.[/quote]
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40676882[/URL]
I like that one of his victims testified in favor of him, shows strength of character.
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-Simpson appears to dab a tear during the testimony of Bruce Fromong
The 'Juice is loose! :v:
70 years old he definitely deserves to be outside walls for the time he has left.
holy shit oj is fucking 70 now? damn.
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I like that one of his victims testified in favor of him, shows strength of character.[/QUOTE]
I can't help but think it's all a publicity stunt. Unless I'm mistaken, the guy still owns a lot of OJ memorabilia that is probably losing value with OJ not being a public figure anymore. This news drums up interest in OJ and might get some new buyers for that memorabilia.
[editline]20th July 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=redBadger;52490241]70 years old he definitely deserves to be outside walls for the time he has left.[/QUOTE]
Considering he may have murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, my opinion isn't so rosy
[QUOTE=redBadger;52490241]70 years old he definitely deserves to be outside walls for the time he has left.[/QUOTE]
If he lives to be 90 are you going to retroactively declare that he shouldn't have been freed?
[QUOTE=redBadger;52490241]70 years old he definitely deserves to be outside walls for the time he has left.[/QUOTE]
Armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, kidnapping...
No, no he doesn't.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52490241]70 years old he definitely deserves to be outside walls for the time he has left.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no. Should we just let every prisoner "retire" when they turn to a certain age?
[QUOTE]Simpson, who was acquitted for a double murder in 1995, has been serving time for armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and 10 other charges[/QUOTE]
Whatever your opinions of him and the murders, this is how the law works. The parole board can't deny him because they don't like him for being acquitted decades ago. That's not justice
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Considering he [B]may[/B] have murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, my opinion isn't so rosy[/QUOTE]
Thats a very very flimsily may. There is DNA evidence along with an overwhelming amount of other evidence. It still mind boggling he was acquitted. OJ is truly a terrible person.
[QUOTE=catbarf;52490299]If he lives to be 90 are you going to retroactively declare that he shouldn't have been freed?[/QUOTE]
His condition ensures that is pretty much impossible. He has 5 years left at best.
Apparently he claimed to have "lived a conflict free life" during the hearing? Were there not victims present? Surprised he was paroled after that.
Given his health I don't really have much reason to believe that he's a threat to society anymore, so I don't particularly mind.
He's still a scumbag, after watching The People vs OJ (really good show btw that goes through the stages of the court process really well), I had suspicion that he may of murdered Nicole and so did Rob Kardashian later on in the trial (leading to him to not be friends with OJ anymore).
Armed robbery and all that shit though, absolutely unacceptable. He's old now so he probably isn't a real threat but the man's a piece of fucking shit.
[QUOTE=Govna;52490320]Armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, kidnapping...
No, no he doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Add first-degree murder to the pile.
[QUOTE=Potus;52490422]Whatever your opinions of him and the murders, this is how the law works. The parole board can't deny him because they don't like him for being acquitted decades ago. That's not justice[/QUOTE]
Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.
I'm glad to see he got out. He accepted his punishment, served his minimum years, and got released just like one should if they were model prisoners and have changed their ways.
This is the way the Justice System works, and today it worked exactly as it should.
[QUOTE=iownuall;52491610]Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.
I'm glad to see he got out. He accepted his punishment, served his minimum years, and got released just like one should if they were model prisoners and have changed their ways.
This is the way the Justice System works, and today it worked exactly as it should.[/QUOTE]
And I am happy we have a justice system like that.
The alternatives are ..very shitty.
[QUOTE=iownuall;52491610]Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.
I'm glad to see he got out. He accepted his punishment, served his minimum years, and got released just like one should if they were model prisoners and have changed their ways.
This is the way the Justice System works, and today it worked exactly as it should.[/QUOTE]
Incredibly naive. The American justice system is really fucked up, dude. The best way to win is not to play at all, but once you're in, it's *literally* a game.
[QUOTE=iownuall;52491610]Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.
I'm glad to see he got out. He accepted his punishment, served his minimum years, and got released just like one should if they were model prisoners and have changed their ways.
This is the way the Justice System works, and today it worked exactly as it should.[/QUOTE]
I agree that for the charges that did land him in jail it's fine that he's getting released now. It's still insane that he wasn't convicted of the murders he was blatantly guilty of 20-something years ago because of police incompetence and various other factors that have nothing to do with whether he's guilty or not. That's a fault of the Justice system, nothing to be proud of.
[QUOTE=iownuall;52491610]Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.
I'm glad to see he got out. He accepted his punishment, served his minimum years, and got released just like one should if they were model prisoners and have changed their ways.
This is the way the Justice System works, and today it worked exactly as it should.[/QUOTE]
No, he was just saying there isn't a legal basis for keeping him in jail, you're saying get over it.
The cops were called up to his place plenty of times beforehand over domestic abuse and Nicole even told them once that she was afraid he was going to kill her. Combine that with all of the blood and DNA n' shit and it's easy to see why nobody wants to see him get out.
Of course they were right to parole him, because this isn't about the murders. But it's possible to agree with that and also say with near certainty that he should be in jail for the murders.
[QUOTE=iownuall;52491610]Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.[/QUOTE]
You should really read up on the trial.
From the very beginning the defense built up the case emphasizing the racial angle which was completely irrelevant considering OJs character and popularity among all demographics, I mean at that point most of his friends were affluent white people. The defense even resorted to cheap tricks like completely redecorating his home before the jury visit, giving the impression that he was some kind of huge supporter of his old black community, which he clearly wasn't.
The successful effort on discrediting clear as day DNA evidence in the public eye and dismissing his history of domestic violence and crucial evidence like his escape gear was also baffling.
Sure the prosecution made mistakes too, including putting the questionable character of Fuhrman on the stand, and they majorly fucked up when they took the bait to let him try on the glove (apparently the defense were expecting this so he stopped taking his arthritis medicine weeks before so his hand became swollen).
And I haven't even touched on the jury selection process, and the way how both sides tried to expel like unfavorable jurors like it was a season of Big Brother (I'd imagine these are general problems), and the whole media circus around it, the size of which was unfathomable before.
At the end of the day the timeframe matched, the motive was clear and the evidence was there, but the jury still decided in favor of him, after an incredibly short deliberation. By all known facts it was not the right decision but the only logical one: the trial has been going for eleven months at that time, the jury was nearing their breaking point because of the isolation, and no one wanted to the relive the events of 1992.
I don't know what was triumphant that day, but justice wasn't for sure.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;52490532]Thats a very very flimsily may. There is DNA evidence along with an overwhelming amount of other evidence. It still mind boggling he was acquitted. OJ is truly a terrible person.[/QUOTE]
ye but didn't he write a book describing how he did it?
[QUOTE=iownuall;52491610]Exactly this. I don't know why people are still up in arms about him, he was acquitted of the murder charges years ago. A Jury decided he was innocent, let it go.
I'm glad to see he got out. He accepted his punishment, served his minimum years, and got released just like one should if they were model prisoners and have changed their ways.
This is the way the Justice System works, and today it worked exactly as it should.[/QUOTE]
Watch American Crime Story: The People VS OJ Simpson and then OJ: Made In America and come back and tell me that trial wasn't a major miscarriage of justice and that the system shouldn't be allowed to challenge it.
[QUOTE=AK'z;52491804]ye but didn't he write a book describing how he did it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah and it's bizarre
[QUOTE]Now picture this -- and keep in mind, this is hypothetical.[/QUOTE]
Even if it's hypothetical, there's some weirdly specific details in there, like him mocking Ron Goldman's attempts at karate to fight him off and him telling Nicole that he was "tired of being the understanding ex-husband."
That said, most of the pretense about but being a confession was added to the book after the Goldman family got the rights to the book in an equally bizarre series of events.
wot was sickening is knowing that if that became a bestseller then it would go down in history that a murder would have made him a rich celebrity again.
fortunately it was pulped before sale.
[QUOTE=Potus;52490422]Whatever your opinions of him and the murders, this is how the law works. The parole board can't deny him because they don't like him for being acquitted decades ago. [B]That's not justice[/B][/QUOTE]
While I absolutely do get what you're saying, that phrase always rubs me the wrong way. Justice and the law's dictation are not -- an can never be -- truly synonymous. Justice, however subjective, is a concept that does right by the victims of wrongdoing, and the perpetrators of it alike. The full extent of OJ's treatment by the legal system, even resulting in his parole? Whether it's the result of our system's conclusion or not -- it's not what I'd call justice. Not with two people dead and an essentially closed case.
I agree with you that we can't change it -- but I wouldn't call it justice.
[QUOTE=Govna;52490320]Armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, kidnapping...
No, no he doesn't.[/QUOTE]
OJ did not have a weapon during the robbery. His companion did.
[QUOTE=Kecske;52491796]You should really read up on the trial.
From the very beginning the defense built up the case emphasizing the racial angle which was completely irrelevant considering OJs character and popularity among all demographics, I mean at that point most of his friends were affluent white people. The defense even resorted to cheap tricks like completely redecorating his home before the jury visit, giving the impression that he was some kind of huge supporter of his old black community, which he clearly wasn't.
The successful effort on discrediting clear as day DNA evidence in the public eye and dismissing his history of domestic violence and crucial evidence like his escape gear was also baffling.
Sure the prosecution made mistakes too, including putting the questionable character of Fuhrman on the stand, and they majorly fucked up when they took the bait to let him try on the glove (apparently the defense were expecting this so he stopped taking his arthritis medicine weeks before so his hand became swollen).
And I haven't even touched on the jury selection process, and the way how both sides tried to expel like unfavorable jurors like it was a season of Big Brother (I'd imagine these are general problems), and the whole media circus around it, the size of which was unfathomable before.
At the end of the day the timeframe matched, the motive was clear and the evidence was there, but the jury still decided in favor of him, after an incredibly short deliberation. By all known facts it was not the right decision but the only logical one: the trial has been going for eleven months at that time, the jury was nearing their breaking point because of the isolation, and no one wanted to the relive the events of 1992.
I don't know what was triumphant that day, but justice wasn't for sure.[/QUOTE]
The case was a total farse and makes for fascinating TV / reading, but it all boils down to the same thing.
'Beyond all reasonable doubt', in your very post you show reasonable doubt with "questionable character of Fuhrman on the stand" comment.
And then there's the fact that while more incriminating evidence has come to light since, they cannot do shit about it because of the Double Jeapordy law.
Hell I think he did it, guy even wrote "If I did it" which was basically rubbing his dick in everyones face.
Anyway he got 33 years in 2008 for armed robbery and kidnapping, the sentance was / is widly beleives to have been the US justice System way of getting around the aformentioned Double Jeapordy law and their way of saying 'we know your a murderer so we're gonna sentance you as one'.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;52490532]Thats a very very flimsily may. There is DNA evidence along with an overwhelming amount of other evidence. It still mind boggling he was acquitted. OJ is truly a terrible person.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing mind-boggling about it. The LAPD ran a lazy investigation and Simpson's defense team was absolutely top-notch.
Sure the defense team took advantage of the racial situation in California at the time, but they were pretty evenly matched by how arrogant the prosecution was.
All they needed was a reasonable doubt that OJ committed the murders. And with the defense team's investigation and the LAPD's own half-assed investigation, the case against Simpson just wasn't strong [I]enough.[/I]
[editline]21st July 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=AK'z;52491804]ye but didn't he write a book describing how he did it?[/QUOTE]
It was ghostwritten, and it's just as likely it was bullshit so OJ could just get money in his pocket.
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