Ford ups electric vehicle plans to $11 billion by 2022
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[quote](Reuters) - Ford Motor Co (F.N) will increase significantly its planned investments in electric vehicles to $11 billion by 2022, Chairman Bill Ford told reporters on Sunday at the Detroit auto show.
FILE PHOTO: Jim Farley, president of Global Markets, Ford Motor Company, speaks at CES in Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. January 9, 2018.
This is up from a previously announced target of $4.5 billion by 2020. The investments will be made in full electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles.
“We’re all in on this and we’re taking our mainstream vehicles, our most iconic vehicles, and we’re electrifying them,” Ford said. [/quote]
[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autoshow-detroit-ford-motor/ford-ups-electric-vehicle-plans-to-11-billion-by-2022-executive-idUSKBN1F30YZ[/url]
Ford has been really lagging behind other manufacturers so it's good to see they are investing more. Not sure that it's enough though.
As long as the option still exists for a V8 6-speed Mustang, knock yourselves out. Don't care if everything else is electric, hell I don't care if there's an electric Mustang, as long as the option is still there to get one with a proper, throaty V8 and a manual gearbox. But if you drop that model from the lineup, Ford, you're dead to me...
[QUOTE=TestECull;53053278]As long as the option still exists for a V8 6-speed Mustang, knock yourselves out. Don't care if everything else is electric, hell I don't care if there's an electric Mustang, as long as the option is still there to get one with a proper, throaty V8 and a manual gearbox. But if you drop that model from the lineup, Ford, you're dead to me...[/QUOTE]
Probably another 15-20 years before you won't be able to find a new gas engine driven car of some nature.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;53053321]Probably another 15-20 years before you won't be able to find a gas engine driven car of some nature.[/QUOTE]
The whole world is going to stop using gas engines in less than a quarter of a century? I have severe doubts about that, considering how unrealistic the prospect is. You clearly don't understand the market for petrol engine cars either, especially when you realize how big the market for collector cars is.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;53053338]The whole world is going to stop using gas engines in less than a quarter of a century? I have severe doubts about that, considering how unrealistic the prospect is. You clearly don't understand the market for petrol engine cars either, especially when you realize how big the market for collector cars is.[/QUOTE]
I forgot "new"
[QUOTE=TestECull;53053278]As long as the option still exists for a V8 6-speed Mustang, knock yourselves out. Don't care if everything else is electric, hell I don't care if there's an electric Mustang, as long as the option is still there to get one with a proper, throaty V8 and a manual gearbox. But if you drop that model from the lineup, Ford, you're dead to me...[/QUOTE]
This is the sort of mindset that is holding us back.
I don't think you have to worry about a V8 Mustang going anywhere anytime soon. If anything that'll fall victim to a v6 ecoboost automatic before an EV version.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53053278]As long as the option still exists for a V8 6-speed Mustang, knock yourselves out. Don't care if everything else is electric, hell I don't care if there's an electric Mustang, as long as the option is still there to get one with a proper, throaty V8 and a manual gearbox. But if you drop that model from the lineup, Ford, you're dead to me...[/QUOTE]
[quote]proper, throaty V8[/quote]
[quote]Mustang[/quote]
lmao look at this loser. Who'd want a Ford V8 haha (ignore the display picture)
[QUOTE=OvB;53053667]I don't think you have to worry about a V8 Mustang going anywhere anytime soon. If anything that'll fall victim to a v6 ecoboost automatic before an EV version.[/QUOTE]
That, or a performance hybrid version.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;53053338]The whole world is going to stop using gas engines in less than a quarter of a century? I have severe doubts about that, considering how unrealistic the prospect is. You clearly don't understand the market for petrol engine cars either, especially when you realize how big the market for collector cars is.[/QUOTE]
Its extremely optimistic that most of those countries pledged to do so will do it within the next 10-20 years, but we all can be hopeful. Electric seems to be hitting an inflection point where its going to take off with everybody offering enough models, one big obsticle though is the land yachts truck obsessed US drivers right now, if it isn't a big giant suv then they don't want it.
[QUOTE=PyroCF;53053650]This is the sort of mindset that is holding us back.[/QUOTE]
Car enthusiasts are hardly the reason we didn't go electric sooner. I doubt they're even a final thought in the bigger picture.
[QUOTE=PyroCF;53053650]This is the sort of mindset that is holding us back.[/QUOTE]
the emissions let off by car enthusiasts would be like, 0.5% of all the cars in the world.
I don't understand why it has to be a binary switch, either. It's entirely possible that such a change will be gradual once the EV's prove themselves to be reliable and capable, at which consumer response will dictate how the market moves - anything else is just theorycrafting.
For example, when automatics first came out, people [I]hated[/I] them for good reason - they were less fuel-efficient, repairs were ridiculously expensive, there were no practical upsides outside of just not wanting to change (which was also made into a silly social construct about masculinity being attached to tugging on a gearknob and depressing a clutch). That shit's changed considerably over time, with more cars than ever being sold as automatics, including sports cars. Doesn't detract from the fact that manuals still exist (they do) and they're still as fun to drive.
Just let the manufacturers do what they have to do - don't just pass judgement on the technology, [B]judge the product.[/B]. EV's are here to stay, now it's a matter of seeing how good they can get to match up, and exceed, the massive monolithic consumer experience that is ICE cars.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53053278]As long as the option still exists for a V8 6-speed Mustang, knock yourselves out. Don't care if everything else is electric, hell I don't care if there's an electric Mustang, as long as the option is still there to get one with a proper, throaty V8 and a manual gearbox. But if you drop that model from the lineup, Ford, you're dead to me...[/QUOTE]
Ford doesn't give a shit about your hobby. If they no longer see a reason to make and sell ICE sports cars (whether for profit or for image) then they won't.
If I were you I wouldn't worry too much: just as horse carriages and steam-powered cars are still around and kept alive by enthusiasts, so will ICE cars in the future. It's on you and other fellow hobbyists to do that, though, not private companies or the government.
[QUOTE=TestECull;53053278]As long as the option still exists for a V8 6-speed Mustang, knock yourselves out. Don't care if everything else is electric, hell I don't care if there's an electric Mustang, as long as the option is still there to get one with a proper, throaty V8 and a manual gearbox. But if you drop that model from the lineup, Ford, you're dead to me...[/QUOTE]
Somewhere there's an alternate universe where being a gearhead is an obscure obsession of autistic weirdos and Jeremy Clarkson is the creator of a very popular Sonic OC.
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