Harvey is a 1,000-year flood event unprecedented in scale - Sensationalist Headlines

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/31/harvey-is-a-1000-year-flood-event-unprecedented-in-scale/"]Harvey is a 1,000-year flood event unprecedented in scale[/URL] [QUOTE]As Harvey’s rains unfolded, the intensity and scope of the disaster were so enormous that weather forecasters, first responders, the victims, everyone really, couldn’t believe their eyes. Now the data are bearing out what everyone suspected: This flood event is on an entirely different scale than what we’ve seen before in the United States. A new analysis from the University of Wisconsin’s Space Science and Engineering Center has determined that Harvey is a one-in-1,000-year flood event that has overwhelmed an enormous section of Southeast Texas equivalent in size to New Jersey. ... Harvey puts an exclamation mark on the pattern of disastrous rain events in recent years and may be a harbinger of more such events in the coming decades. “Expect Harvey flood record will be broken in 5, 15, 25 years from now — sooner rather than later,” tweeted David Titley, professor of meteorology at Penn State.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/what-would-harveys-rainfall-impact-in-canada/85555/"]If Harvey's rainfall were to somehow fall on Toronto, as unlikely as it would be for a hurricane to power its way into Canada and stick around for a few days, the city would be flooded 90 meters deep.[/URL] [t]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36740830931_7bac63ff18_b.jpg[/t]

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Keep in mind this doesn't mean it has chance of happening once in a thousand years. Houston has had many 500 year floods. It's a way of saying the statistical likelihood of it happening each year. A 10 year food has a 10% chance of happening each year, a 100 year flood has a 1% chance of happening in a year, an 500 year flood has a .2% change of happening each year, etc, etc.

[QUOTE=OvB;52634185]Keep in mind this doesn't mean it has chance of happening once in a thousand years. Houston has had many 500 year floods. It's a way of saying the statistical likelihood of it happening each year. A 10 year food has a 10% chance of happening each year, a 100 year flood has a 1% chance of happening in a year, an 500 year flood has a .2% change of happening each year, etc, etc.[/QUOTE] The article addresses that and links to something about how what is currently a 500-year flooding event could become commonplace in the not-too-distant future. Disaster event definitions are going to have to change.

Sort of related, here's a representation of just how big Houston is. Keep in mind this is just the Houston city limits, not the rest of the metropolitan area that is generally referred to as "Houston." Much of which has flooded: [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Bve7cQx.jpg[/img_thumb] The highway loop that surrounds the greater Houston area will be around 170 miles once completed. It's a big city. A big area that has flooded.

My brother, 32, was talking about how NASA used geoengineering to create the hurricane and said why do you think it's just staying in Houston, they concentrated it in that spot. I had no words.

[QUOTE=Reaper33;52634264]My brother, 32, was talking about how NASA used geoengineering to create the hurricane and said why do you think it's just staying in Houston, they concentrated it in that spot. I had no words.[/QUOTE] Why would NASA use geoengineering to destroy the city in which NASA Mission Control is?

[QUOTE=OvB;52634268]Why would NASA use geoengineering to destroy the city in which NASA Mission Control is?[/QUOTE] There's no such thing as logic when it comes to someone who thinks each and every event in life is a government conspiracy.

[QUOTE=Reaper33;52634264]My brother, 32, was talking about how NASA used geoengineering to create the hurricane and said why do you think it's just staying in Houston, they concentrated it in that spot. I had no words.[/QUOTE] That sounds like a bad movie plot. And what would NASA have to gain from it? I truly don't understand how people can think like this.

[QUOTE=OvB;52634268]Why would NASA use geoengineering to destroy the city in which NASA Mission Control is?[/QUOTE] In order to get their flood insurance. It's all a big scam I tell ya!

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52634160] [URL="https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/what-would-harveys-rainfall-impact-in-canada/85555/"]If Harvey's rainfall were to somehow fall on Toronto, as unlikely as it would be for a hurricane to power its way into Canada and stick around for a few days, the city would be flooded 90 meters deep.[/URL] [t]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36740830931_7bac63ff18_b.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] As someone living in Toronto, damnnn

[img]http://i.imgur.com/EjJqiVZ.png[/img] After [img]http://i.imgur.com/3Y7xRjq.png[/img] Jesus christ

We'll probably see worse in the coming decades

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52634160] [URL="https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/what-would-harveys-rainfall-impact-in-canada/85555/"]If Harvey's rainfall were to somehow fall on Toronto, as unlikely as it would be for a hurricane to power its way into Canada and stick around for a few days, the city would be flooded 90 meters deep.[/URL] [t]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36740830931_7bac63ff18_b.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] This visual is fucking terrifying to think about

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52634160]If Harvey's rainfall were to somehow fall on Toronto, as unlikely as it would be for a hurricane to power its way into Canada and stick around for a few days, the city would be flooded 90 meters deep. [t]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36740830931_7bac63ff18_b.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Dude, toronto would just be... [I]gone.[/I]

[QUOTE=OvB;52634268]Why would NASA use geoengineering to destroy the city in which NASA Mission Control is?[/QUOTE] It has made contact with them seriously tough, to say the least, over the past week or so and we're getting close to payload launch. On that note several suppliers of space-grade hardware that we need to source parts from are now literally underwater and some of these were long-lead items, so there's a worry that we'll have a hard time being ready for launch on time. I've got family in Texas too, and despite being relatively far inland they even experienced new heights in flooding that caused a bit of a scare for them. One of them said that "maybe this climate change thing has some merit, after all", so I guess there might be some hope from all of this?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52634160] [URL="https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/what-would-harveys-rainfall-impact-in-canada/85555/"]If Harvey's rainfall were to somehow fall on Toronto, as unlikely as it would be for a hurricane to power its way into Canada and stick around for a few days, the city would be flooded 90 meters deep.[/URL] [t]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36740830931_7bac63ff18_b.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] That's a picture of if all the rainfall Texas recieved fell soley into Toronto. The actual flooding Toronto would see from a Harvey-like event would be less. Check out this article by the Washington Post to see something more reasonable and interesting: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/30/what-the-harvey-deluge-would-look-like-where-you-live/[/url] Chicago, for example, would recieve 4-5ft flooding. Still horrible, but not that ridiculous and stupid nearly 300 ft your picture shows for Toronto.

[QUOTE=Spartan8907;52634305]That sounds like a bad movie plot. And what would NASA have to gain from it? I truly don't understand how people can think like this.[/QUOTE] No, see, if they [I]didn't[/I] flood the city that houses Mission Control, then people would catch on to them! Ah, but catch on to what, you may ask? Wake up, sheeple! It's all a part of their plan to push Global Warming on us against our will so we have to give up our sweet rides in exchange for gay-lord Prius'! /s

[QUOTE=Reaper33;52634264]My brother, 32, was talking about how NASA used geoengineering to create the hurricane and said why do you think it's just staying in Houston, they concentrated it in that spot. I had no words.[/QUOTE] Okay I had to look these up when I saw this. Tell him not to believe everything he hears on YouTube :v: Evidently the one that got your brother: The National Weather Service, NOAA, and the Geoengineers of the military and NASA have known about how to create and dissipate weather, including hurricanes. You will learn in this video exactly how they are making Hurricane Harvey into a never before seem deluge that started with a tiny front back on Aug. 16th. This vid/doc covers how they are controlling the hurricane for maximum duration and intensity directly over SW Texas as well as New Orleans getting battered again and again and again. [URL]https://youtu.be/WzHSuT1z-I4[/URL] Harvey entirely manmade, 'refuels' with 'water vapor bursts' [URL]https://youtu.be/Fw6OFamw4oo[/URL] 100% Proof HAARP may have controlled Hurricane Harvey! [URL]https://youtu.be/SDDPyZKfSYA[/URL] WEAPONIZED WEATHER [URL]https://youtu.be/tMUNOScuKjA[/URL] Harvey created with nuclear fusion reactors! [URL]https://youtu.be/XKnC2hnuPq4[/URL] We have giant excavators, therefore Harvey is manufactured [URL]https://youtu.be/DGvoXkujAUo[/URL] The list goes on. What really boggles the mind is that these channels all have tens or hundreds of thousands of views and overwhelmingly positive feedback. :conspiratard:

[QUOTE=ferrus;52635827]Okay I had to look these up when I saw this. Tell him not to believe everything he hears on YouTube :v: Evidently the one that got your brother: The National Weather Service, NOAA, and the Geoengineers of the military and NASA have known about how to create and dissipate weather, including hurricanes. You will learn in this video exactly how they are making Hurricane Harvey into a never before seem deluge that started with a tiny front back on Aug. 16th. This vid/doc covers how they are controlling the hurricane for maximum duration and intensity directly over SW Texas as well as New Orleans getting battered again and again and again. [URL]https://youtu.be/WzHSuT1z-I4[/URL] Harvey entirely manmade, 'refuels' with 'water vapor bursts' [URL]https://youtu.be/Fw6OFamw4oo[/URL] 100% Proof HAARP may have controlled Hurricane Harvey! [URL]https://youtu.be/SDDPyZKfSYA[/URL] WEAPONIZED WEATHER [URL]https://youtu.be/tMUNOScuKjA[/URL] Harvey created with nuclear fusion reactors! [URL]https://youtu.be/XKnC2hnuPq4[/URL] We have giant excavators, therefore Harvey is manufactured [URL]https://youtu.be/DGvoXkujAUo[/URL] The list goes on. What really boggles the mind is that these channels all have tens or hundreds of thousands of views and overwhelmingly positive feedback. :conspiratard:[/QUOTE] Imagine just how much money is in making conspirationally retarded videos about how NASA and HAARP create natural disasters and other things. It's [I]just[/I] good enough money to tempt me into quitting my career and making dumb YouTube scaremongering videos...but my conscious just won't let me :v:

[QUOTE=ferrus;52635827]Harvey entirely manmade, 'refuels' with 'water vapor bursts'[/QUOTE] so the vape craze was actually a government plant it all makes so much sense now

[QUOTE=ferrus;52635827]Okay I had to look these up when I saw this. Tell him not to believe everything he hears on YouTube :v: Evidently the one that got your brother: The National Weather Service, NOAA, and the Geoengineers of the military and NASA have known about how to create and dissipate weather, including hurricanes. You will learn in this video exactly how they are making Hurricane Harvey into a never before seem deluge that started with a tiny front back on Aug. 16th. This vid/doc covers how they are controlling the hurricane for maximum duration and intensity directly over SW Texas as well as New Orleans getting battered again and again and again. [URL]https://youtu.be/WzHSuT1z-I4[/URL] Harvey entirely manmade, 'refuels' with 'water vapor bursts' [URL]https://youtu.be/Fw6OFamw4oo[/URL] 100% Proof HAARP may have controlled Hurricane Harvey! [URL]https://youtu.be/SDDPyZKfSYA[/URL] WEAPONIZED WEATHER [URL]https://youtu.be/tMUNOScuKjA[/URL] Harvey created with nuclear fusion reactors! [URL]https://youtu.be/XKnC2hnuPq4[/URL] We have giant excavators, therefore Harvey is manufactured [URL]https://youtu.be/DGvoXkujAUo[/URL] The list goes on. What really boggles the mind is that these channels all have tens or hundreds of thousands of views and overwhelmingly positive feedback. :conspiratard:[/QUOTE] Just consider how successful you could be if you chose to become a con man.

[QUOTE=Reaper33;52634264]My brother, 32, was talking about how NASA used geoengineering to create the hurricane and said why do you think it's just staying in Houston, they concentrated it in that spot. I had no words.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, and what would the point of that even be? Does NASA want a new mission control and the only way they can get one is to spend a billion dollars to engineer a hurricane to cause several billions in damage just to destroy their property so the government will give the OK to spend a few hundred million on new facilities? How can people be so uneducated and stupid in a first world country Moon Hoaxers... Rainbows are chemicals, not refractions... flat earthers... Contrails....

[QUOTE=ferrus;52635827]Okay I had to look these up when I saw this. Tell him not to believe everything he hears on YouTube :v: Evidently the one that got your brother: The National Weather Service, NOAA, and the Geoengineers of the military and NASA have known about how to create and dissipate weather, including hurricanes. You will learn in this video exactly how they are making Hurricane Harvey into a never before seem deluge that started with a tiny front back on Aug. 16th. This vid/doc covers how they are controlling the hurricane for maximum duration and intensity directly over SW Texas as well as New Orleans getting battered again and again and again. [URL]https://youtu.be/WzHSuT1z-I4[/URL] Harvey entirely manmade, 'refuels' with 'water vapor bursts' [URL]https://youtu.be/Fw6OFamw4oo[/URL] 100% Proof HAARP may have controlled Hurricane Harvey! [URL]https://youtu.be/SDDPyZKfSYA[/URL] WEAPONIZED WEATHER [URL]https://youtu.be/tMUNOScuKjA[/URL] Harvey created with nuclear fusion reactors! [URL]https://youtu.be/XKnC2hnuPq4[/URL] We have giant excavators, therefore Harvey is manufactured [URL]https://youtu.be/DGvoXkujAUo[/URL] The list goes on. What really boggles the mind is that these channels all have tens or hundreds of thousands of views and overwhelmingly positive feedback. :conspiratard:[/QUOTE] I love the title of the third one. [b]100% proof[/b] that HAARP [B]MAY[/b] have controlled Harvey. :v:

these are only starting to be talked about but harvey might turn out to be an enviromental nightmare thanks to deregulation on the federal level, no regulation on the state level and no zoning laws on the local side which has lead to chemical plants and silo farms being built in residential areas, all of which have been severely danaged and are leaking thousands of tons of who knows what since they don' t have to have detailed plans, and the contaient systems that might have prevented this were not required. these areas of texas might become toxic brownfields after the flood waters receed, thanks in large part to the immense concentration of chemical plants and storage around there and the very lax attitude towards safety and emergency response

[QUOTE=OvB;52634268]Why would NASA use geoengineering to destroy the city in which NASA Mission Control is?[/QUOTE] Make real estate cheaper maybe? They need to make good use of their budget :v:

[QUOTE=EcksDee;52634492][img]http://i.imgur.com/EjJqiVZ.png[/img] After [img]http://i.imgur.com/3Y7xRjq.png[/img] Jesus christ[/QUOTE] Pretty sure this is from another flood a few years ago? Seem to remember those images at least.

[QUOTE=Sableye;52636460]these are only starting to be talked about but harvey might turn out to be an enviromental nightmare thanks to deregulation on the federal level, no regulation on the state level and no zoning laws on the local side which has lead to chemical plants and silo farms being built in residential areas, all of which have been severely danaged and are leaking thousands of tons of who knows what since they don' t have to have detailed plans, and the contaient systems that might have prevented this were not required. these areas of texas might become toxic brownfields after the flood waters receed, thanks in large part to the immense concentration of chemical plants and storage around there and the very lax attitude towards safety and emergency response[/QUOTE] I'm sure some of the acts passed to deregulate industrial safety were Democrat-led or bipartisan, so Dems are to share in the blame, but fuck me if this doesn't sound like a Republican wet dream: Deregulation on the federal level (read: this problem is probably nationwide to varying degrees), no regional/local regulations, nothing to stop the entrepreneurial spirit from storing vast amounts of dangerous chemicals near densely-inhabited areas. Praise God and collect those profits. Don't worry, private industry can be trusted to police itself! Hands-off policies build a stronger economy and everyone benefits! Except for a little fourth factor called climate change, something humanity didn't particularly understand until long after creating the conditions for dramatic permanent change and something the GOP still wants to ignore for economic and political expediency. Oops. Presenting America's newest Superfund site: The Greater Houston Metropolitan Area, all 10,000 square miles. God, I hope not. :cry: I know that before I die we'll see something worse than Harvey. It's going to keep happening. And the summer season looks like it may not even be done fucking up America's southern/eastern coastline.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52636560]I'm sure some of the acts passed to deregulate industrial safety were Democrat-led or bipartisan, so Dems are to share in the blame, but fuck me if this doesn't sound like a Republican wet dream: Deregulation on the federal level (read: this problem is probably nationwide to varying degrees), no regional/local regulations, nothing to stop the entrepreneurial spirit from storing vast amounts of dangerous chemicals near densely-inhabited areas. Praise God and collect those profits. Don't worry, private industry can be trusted to police itself! Hands-off policies build a stronger economy and everyone benefits! Except for a little fourth factor called climate change, something humanity didn't particularly understand until long after creating the conditions for dramatic permanent change and something the GOP still wants to ignore for economic and political expediency. Oops. Presenting America's newest Superfund site: The Greater Houston Metropolitan Area, all 10,000 square miles. God, I hope not. :cry: I know that before I die we'll see something worse than Harvey. It's going to keep happening. And the summer season looks like it may not even be done fucking up America's southern/eastern coastline.[/QUOTE] there's a reason why almost all of the largest chemical safety related disasters in the US have been in Texas, nowhere else are you allowed to build silo farms or gas centers, or chemical plants [I]in residential neighborhoods[/I]

[QUOTE=Sableye;52636577]there's a reason why almost all of the largest chemical safety related disasters in the US have been in Texas, nowhere else are you allowed to build silo farms or gas centers, or chemical plants [I]in residential neighborhoods[/I][/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/08/the-urban-oil-fields-of-los-angeles/100799/"]Los Angeles might be a bit of a contender in certain ways.[/URL] :v: