• Hasbro tells investors Transformers 6 is cancelled, universe reboot sometime in the future
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[quote]Although there were early signs that ambitious plans for a Transformers cinematic universe were in trouble, following the disappointing reception for The Last Knight, the most damning evidence yet is the omission of the seventh film in the blockbuster franchise from the Hasbro-Paramount movie slate. Originally announced for release in 2019, the untitled seventh Transformers film was set to follow the spinoff Transformers: Bumblebee (initially referred to as Transformers 6), which opens Dec. 21. However, Hasbro’s new promo image for its upcoming film schedule shows no releases in 2019, and no Transformers movies at all through 2021. According to fan site TFW2005, the toymaker said at its annual Toy Fair 2018 Hasbro Investor Preview that the live-action franchise will be rebooted following Bumblebee. A promo image for the Hasbro-Paramount slate still includes the previously announced release dates in 2020 and 2021 for the “Hasbro Universe” films G.I. Joe, Micronauts, Dungeons & Dragons and an untitled “event.” The Last Knight, Michael Bay’s fifth and final Transformers film as director, had been characterized as both “a final chapter and a new beginning” that would lay the foundation for a growing cinematic universe that, in addition to sequels and a spinoff, was believed to include an Autobots vs. Decepticons origin movie. Just last year, Bay teased that there were already 14 stories in development, the fruits of a Transformers writers room. The group’s head, Oscar winner Akiva Goldsman, revealed in August that he’s no longer involved with the franchise.[/quote] [url=https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-dropped-hasbro-paramount/]CBR[/url]
[QUOTE]The Last Knight, Michael Bay’s fifth and final Transformers film as director, had been characterized as both “a final chapter and a new beginning” that would lay the foundation for a growing cinematic universe[/QUOTE] Pffff hahaha!
There might be a God, especially if that fully cgi Cybertron prequel still happens.
putting my money on jj abrams for first one
[quote]cinematic universe[/quote] This should be categorized as a buzzword from now on, just like "dinamic synergy" is in the professional world.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;53136754]This should be categorized as a buzzword from now on, just like "dinamic synergy" is in the professional world.[/QUOTE] Kind of sucks though cause Transformers could easily sustain a cinematic shared universe.
Hopefully this reboot will actually focus on what almost everyone watched the last five movies for: robot on robot violence. The shrapnel flying when a Decepticon's arm gets blown off, only to have an Autobot's head caved in by an axe, with the spray of motor fluid punctuating the fatal blow. That is one thing I'll give Bay credit for. He somehow managed to make completely synthetic machine fights feel bloody and gory. And I'm really hoping if they stay in the "realistic CGI" realm that they'll focus entirely on that in the next movie. The only purpose other fellow humans will serve is to be slaughtered when they try and fail to shoot them with a 5.56 rifle.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;53136754]This should be categorized as a buzzword from now on, just like "dinamic synergy" is in the professional world.[/QUOTE] I don't understand how having the same characters in sequential films counts as a cinematic universe. To me, a CU is something like Marvel's MCU or Star Wars, in which you have multiple films with different characters and arches but within the same setting. Transformers is not a CU and should never be considered as such.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53136823]I don't understand how having the same characters in sequential films counts as a cinematic universe. To me, a CU is something like Marvel's MCU or Star Wars, in which you have multiple films with different characters and arches but within the same setting. Transformers is not a CU and should never be considered as such.[/QUOTE] Well they are doing that bumblebee side movie.
reboot it with G1 artstyle thank im tired of overcomplicated robots
[QUOTE=Wii60;53136896]reboot it with G1 artstyle thank[/QUOTE] I dont think you have to necessarily go full G1, you can keep a certain level of visual and mechanical complexity, but give them more clearly defined shapes and cleaner, more saturated color palettes in the vein of G1, like the IDW comics. [editline]16th February 2018[/editline] [t]http://c2.78dm.net.cn/forum/201703/17/135558bmsev6zzse6t600m.jpg[/t] This kind of look would probably be ideal.
yeah i like that style alot too i just dont want it to be like this [t]https://i.imgur.com/6Ixbx8a.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Wii60;53136946]yeah i like that style alot too i just dont want it to be like this [t]https://i.imgur.com/6Ixbx8a.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] What the hell? Is that supposed to be Optimus Prime?
[QUOTE=Krandel;53136955]What the hell? Is that supposed to be Optimus Prime?[/QUOTE] yeah the transformer movies are basically a textbook example of how to not make robot designs imo [t]https://i.imgur.com/BMTY9Tj.jpg[/t][t]https://i.imgur.com/pr0Uqv7.png[/t][t]https://i.imgur.com/KaCRkJy.png[/t][t]https://i.imgur.com/p4ctbgM.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Krandel;53136955]What the hell? Is that supposed to be Optimus Prime?[/QUOTE] It looks like a Terminator reject.
[QUOTE=Wii60;53136969]yeah the transformer movies are basically a textbook example of how to not make robot designs imo [t]https://i.imgur.com/KaCRkJy.png[/t][t]https://i.imgur.com/p4ctbgM.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] The first movies designs were an interesting experiment i think, and definitely had the strongest designs of the movies (they were at least distinguishable from one another) but yeah it got real dumb.
It's weird how they kept redesigning the characters. Like, it makes sense for Iron Man to keep changing across movies because Tony builds different suits. But why should Optimus Prime look totally different? Surely just changing the model of truck he turns into shouldn't have [I]that[/I] much of an impact? [IMG]https://i2.wp.com/www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Movie-Prime-Comparison.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Wii60;53136969] [t]https://i.imgur.com/BMTY9Tj.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] why does he have a Mass Relay on his arm?
[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;53137054]why is does he have a Mass Relay on is arm?[/QUOTE] I think a better question is why does he use a fucking sword when he is a mechanical marvel that could use any sort of long range weaponry instead Also good lord that fucking samurai robot, I knew MBay Transformers movies were cheesy and at times a bit racist, but that is just absurd
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;53136989]It's weird how they kept redesigning the characters. Like, it makes sense for Iron Man to keep changing across movies because Tony builds different suits. But why should Optimus Prime look totally different? Surely just changing the model of truck he turns into shouldn't have [I]that[/I] much of an impact? [IMG]https://i2.wp.com/www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Movie-Prime-Comparison.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] When I first saw the trailers for the movie, my first thought was that something happened to Optimus Prime at some point where he lost most of outer shell that, when transformed, made him look like a truck. Seeing the two side by side, though, I don't know what to think. He doesn't even have wheels on him anymore. He just looks like a generic robot.
Hopefully whatever new Transformers movies that may come will have a much better premise than "Autobots fight Decepticons over some artifact in a major city with humans helping them". There's literally so much more interesting shit in Transformers lore that they could use instead of re-hashing the same schlock over and over again 5 times. Do something different with the series for fucks sake. I get that people like giant robots fighting other giant robots but at least do it well. They could easily take a page from the IDW comics set after the war is over. Have Autobots and Decepticons try to get along on a post-war Cybertron or some shit.
[QUOTE=Wii60;53136969]yeah the transformer movies are basically a textbook example of how to not make robot designs imo [t]https://i.imgur.com/BMTY9Tj.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]He looks more like a massively overdesigned Dark Souls boss in that one.
I thought the first Transformers was a pretty good film actually. The opening reveal of the first transformer was actually a cool moment, and the whole movie really focused on how contemporary humans would deal with an attack from something advanced like that. The line "Is it the Koreans?" in a [i]transformers[/i] movie is IMO a really neat idea. May have been pretty flat story wise but the attention to detail was great in that one. Sure it was cool when the transformers fought but in my mind the good moments were the ones where they explored the idea of humans facing the transformers. If there's a reboot coming just give us some of that please.
Bumblebee? Didn't the last movie had a post credits scene for Unicron? Honestly if they kick out Bay and get someone else I'm intrigued, maybe then we can finally get an actual good Transformers movie.
[QUOTE=Wii60;53136896]reboot it with G1 artstyle thank im tired of overcomplicated robots[/QUOTE] With things like Thor Ragnarok happening and a return to a more candid and colorful style for films I could see all those MCU copycats try the same and actually stick close to the source material since clearly the gritty reboot approach has long since lost whatever luster these people thought it had.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;53136986]The first movies designs were an interesting experiment i think, and definitely had the strongest designs of the movies (they were at least distinguishable from one another) but yeah it got real dumb.[/QUOTE] I remember being at a talk with the folks from ILM shortly after the movie's release. Apparently, they actually tore apart the vehicles to nuts, bolts and base assembly (due in part to their tie-in with the vehicle manufacturers who helped with schematics) and constructed the general shapes and forms of the robots based exactly on the shapes and forms of the pieces from the vehicles. That's actually what makes it stand out - exactly like the argument for the first Pacific Rim, the first movie had established certain rules that unfortunately, the subsequent movies seem to have tossed out in order to make things more 'aesthetically pleasing' than 'true to subject matter'. :disappoint:
Kind of sad they cancelled 6. I was really excited to see how they were gonna fuck Unicron up and probably give him a giant dick. Also real talk, don't watch 5. I paid money to see it and I'm still pissed off.
cmon hasbro, you know where your cinematic universe has to go. [sp]My Little Ponyverse 2020[/sp] [editline]16th February 2018[/editline] on another note though, like with the dramatic raising of the stakes in each movie, in quick succession too, earth would just be a totally fucked up disaster, the global economy and political systems just can't handle near constant city wrecking alien invasions. hell by the third movie basically everybody should have become either unified xenophobes or each country would have become police states due to the massive destabilizing forces (of course for censorship purposes, china is still perfect and not totally dissolving into anarchy) don't know if later movies really focused heavily on that, don't really care either, they wanted to go hyper realistic so that has to be brought up.
[QUOTE=Kurahk;53137096]Hopefully whatever new Transformers movies that may come will have a much better premise than "Autobots fight Decepticons over some artifact in a major city with humans helping them". There's literally so much more interesting shit in Transformers lore that they could use instead of re-hashing the same schlock over and over again 5 times. Do something different with the series for fucks sake. I get that people like giant robots fighting other giant robots but at least do it well. They could easily take a page from the IDW comics set after the war is over. Have Autobots and Decepticons try to get along on a post-war Cybertron or some shit.[/QUOTE] I'd be [B][I]fucking down[/I][/B] with a new TF series set in the IDW universe. The new comics have the best characterizations of the human characters, Optimus Prime, Bee, and Megatron plus some interesting stories now that the war is over. I'd protest the Bumblebee movie so that we live in a timeline where I can [sp]hear Megatron say "Roll out" while fighting Rock Lords.[/sp] [QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;53136989]It's weird how they kept redesigning the characters. Like, it makes sense for Iron Man to keep changing across movies because Tony builds different suits. But why should Optimus Prime look totally different? Surely just changing the model of truck he turns into shouldn't have [I]that[/I] much of an impact? [IMG]https://i2.wp.com/www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Movie-Prime-Comparison.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Fun fact: The reason for the dramatic change in design was because the writer's room wanted a "Knights" theme for the new movies. This is also why Galvatron suddenly becomes Megatron again in The Last Knight and looks like the Black Knight and Optimus for some reason has NO GUNS to defend himself. Makes fuck all sense, and did they REALLY need to hide his truck parts?
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;53142356]I'd be [B][I]fucking down[/I][/B] with a new TF series set in the IDW universe. The new comics have the best characterizations of the human characters, Optimus Prime, Bee, and Megatron plus some interesting stories now that the war is over. I'd protest the Bumblebee movie so that we live in a timeline where I can [sp]hear Megatron say "Roll out" while fighting Rock Lords.[/sp] [/QUOTE] I'd pay so much money to watch an hour long movie of anything IDW related. Just gimme an animated movie about Megatron coming to terms with what he's done and trying to move past it. That or a collection of the misadventures of Team Rodimus on the Lost Light or the Scavengers. I'm just so tired of looking at the live-action designs for the Transformers. They're way too detailed and cluttered, go back to the good-old blocky designs that emulate the toys and give the characters more personality than "I shoot bad guys/good guys".
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