All-electric bus travels record 1,100 miles on a single charge - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE]US-based electric bus manufacturer Proterra upgraded its 40-foot Catalyst E2, now called ‘Catalyst E2 max‘, with a massive 660 kWh battery pack and brought it to the track at the Navistar Proving Grounds in New Carlisle, Indiana, to test it. Unsurprisingly with that insane amount of battery capacity in the vehicle, they beat the record for the most distance traveled on a single charge by an electric vehicle. The Proterra Catalyst E2 max traveled 1,101.2 miles before its battery pack was depleted.[/QUOTE] [url]https://electrek.co/2017/09/19/all-electric-bus-travels-record-1100-miles-on-a-single-charge/[/url]

Imagine if those batteries had a runway meltdown or whatever its called. That'd be one hell of an inferno [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] 1100 miles is wild though. That's like 4x what my Civic does on a full tank.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;52697529]Imagine if those batteries had a runway meltdown or whatever its called. That'd be one hell of an inferno [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] 1100 miles is wild though. That's like 4x what my Civic does on a full tank.[/QUOTE] Well considering a similar sized diesel bus has what a 600 litre tank(?) then it's significantly less than the the 6660 or so kWh in that tank.

As a friend just said, i bet it takes a fucking age to charge.

[QUOTE=madmax678;52697592]As a friend just said, i bet it takes a fucking age to charge.[/QUOTE] Two CCS plugs for charging, so in theory just under 4 hours from empty to full.

The test is probably done without passengers and interior though. Wonder what the actual mileage would be with those, and in city traffic.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;52697529]Imagine if those batteries had a runway meltdown or whatever its called. That'd be one hell of an inferno [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] 1100 miles is wild though. That's like 4x what my Civic does on a full tank.[/QUOTE] Modern EV batteries are compartmentalized, a fire that starts in one part of the pack won't spread to the rest. It's not fool proof, but an ICE car probably wouldn't fair much better in a situation that leads to the entire pack being compromised/on fire.

[QUOTE=winsanity;52697734]Modern EV batteries are compartmentalized, a fire that starts in one part of the pack won't spread to the rest. It's not fool proof, but an ICE car probably wouldn't fair much better in a situation that leads to the entire pack being compromised/on fire.[/QUOTE] Not to mention if you're in a crash severe enough to set the battery pack/fuel tank alight you're likely already dead. If it does randomly start to go you'll get smoked out of the car before you burn to death.

justify gas now bitch

[QUOTE=J!NX;52697759]justify gas now bitch[/QUOTE] Daddy needs his juice. [video=youtube;H6Qq3CTNqUk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Qq3CTNqUk[/video]

[QUOTE=J!NX;52697759]justify gas now bitch[/QUOTE] i dont take the bus to work

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;52698032]i dont take the bus to work[/QUOTE] Steal a bus and take it to work then tbh

Hold my beer Where can I get one of these bad boys

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;52698032]i dont take the bus to work[/QUOTE] My city doesn't even have normal busses because poor people might use them.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52697759]justify gas now bitch[/QUOTE] Because I want ICE under my hood is all the justification I need to keep on relying on moving pistons to pull me along.

Apparently a few people call it a PR stunt. There is no information available under what conditions it actually achieved those miles. Some think, based on some napkin math with its capacity, that it probably was empty and not with live/dummy load as well as having good road conditions, maybe a fixed track. Probably a nice bus and system but take the range with a grain of salt. (Like how a Tesla Model S has a record for 600+ miles but that would not be realistic in real world driving.)

[QUOTE=Morgen;52697623]Two CCS plugs for charging, so in theory just under 4 hours from empty to full.[/QUOTE] They could also probably make the batteries swappable. Potentially making "refueling" even faster than gasoline.

I wonder how much that bus must weigh, pretty cool. Someone in the article comments mentioned the battery pack may add about 4 tonnes to the overall weight... yikes. There were weight restriction limits with bridges that even Tesla's SUV's were crossing, right? Wondering if buses are exempt to a degree or how the extra weight will affect it. It's the little things that matter.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52698740]They could also probably make the batteries swappable. Potentially making "refueling" even faster than gasoline.[/QUOTE] is that even possible with such a large and complex component? Because if so that's a great idea that would actually do a lot to alleviate the range issues of a lot of current EVs. like, if I could have a current technology low-end EV that only goes 100 miles or so, okay, that wouldn't be so bad and I could actually use it for my 300 mile+ per day delivery job, if I had a full swappable battery that was ready to go to get me back onto the road immediately. It's the charging times that kill it for me and make it impossible because the whole car is useless because your one battery is useless. multiple batteries makes that a non issue. i know we're talking about busses here but honestly fuck that ish i'm trying to drive myself, for me to commute to work on a bus would be like a 3 hour ordeal, that's why i'm asking about cars

that's on par with buses of its size, and its much more efficient because of regenrative braking and not having to cycle through gears. They just have to get it so that the whole thing can be charged to full during its off time [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=thelurker1234;52698740]They could also probably make the batteries swappable. Potentially making "refueling" even faster than gasoline.[/QUOTE] you wouldn't need it for city routes where you won't surpass a few hundred miles a day anyways, this just makes it so these vehicles can do long haul routes that things like greyhounds and larger RTA systems have to deal with

[QUOTE=TestECull;52698689]Because I want ICE under my hood is all the justification I need to keep on relying on moving pistons to pull me along.[/QUOTE] What's the motorist equivalent to "Okay we get it, you vape."? Asking for a friend.

[QUOTE=laserpanda;52698205]My city doesn't even have normal busses because poor people might use them.[/QUOTE] At my high school if you felt you couldn't get rides to school consistently you could go the office and get a bus pass that let you ride the city bus for free. We didn't have school-buses and it wasn't because the school was small enough to justify it. :v: [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;52699313]What's the motorist equivalent to "Okay we get it, you vape."? Asking for a friend.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWbObKK_tg[/media] This?

Here's a video on Proterra from a few years ago [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JpMTWdPZ6c[/media]

[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;52699313]What's the motorist equivalent to "Okay we get it, you vape."? Asking for a friend.[/QUOTE] Well both are siding with massive and harmful industries so just use whatever they've pushed.

[QUOTE=J Paul;52699168]is that even possible with such a large and complex component? Because if so that's a great idea that would actually do a lot to alleviate the range issues of a lot of current EVs. like, if I could have a current technology low-end EV that only goes 100 miles or so, okay, that wouldn't be so bad and I could actually use it for my 300 mile+ per day delivery job, if I had a full swappable battery that was ready to go to get me back onto the road immediately. It's the charging times that kill it for me and make it impossible because the whole car is useless because your one battery is useless. multiple batteries makes that a non issue. i know we're talking about busses here but honestly fuck that ish i'm trying to drive myself, for me to commute to work on a bus would be like a 3 hour ordeal, that's why i'm asking about cars[/QUOTE] It's possible, as Tesla has demonstrated, but it's not very practical unless you... have the infrastructure to support it. To put a 660kWh battery into perspective, with current technology a single 18650 battery is around 3Ah * 3.7V = 11.1Wh. The battery in your laptop has around 4-9 cells usually for around a capacity of around ~100Wh. A 660kWh, or 660,000Wh battery made out of 18650s would require 59,460 18650s. A single 18650 weighs around 43g. 59,460 of them with no cabling or circuitry connecting them would weigh around 2557kg. That's the weight of two small cars. It's a nonissue here because a heavier bus can weigh around 13,000kg anyway, but you can't open the battery cover and slap a couple of AAs in.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52697759]justify gas now bitch[/QUOTE] I'll justify [b]diesel[/b] even. There isn't a single bus that can take me to work unless I get up an unknown number of hours before to wait for it, and because I use diesel instead of gas, I spend 1.280 eur a litre, instead of upwards of 1.5 eur, to do 20 km every single day. However, for the people that can use a bus, this is fantastic. If it replaced the shitty bus we have around here, I'm sure it would make a difference, since they're old as fuck.

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52712737]I'll justify [b]diesel[/b] even. There isn't a single bus that can take me to work unless I get up an unknown number of hours before to wait for it, and because I use diesel instead of gas, I spend 1.280 eur a litre, instead of upwards of 1.5 eur, to do 20 km every single day. However, for the people that can use a bus, this is fantastic. If it replaced the shitty bus we have around here, I'm sure it would make a difference, since they're old as fuck.[/QUOTE] Doesn't really justify diesel. Get a second hand EV, even the worst EV will easily do 20km a day for a fraction of the price. I do 65km a day in my Leaf.

[QUOTE=Morgen;52712801]Doesn't really justify diesel. Get a second hand EV, even the worst EV will easily do 20km a day for a fraction of the price. I do 65km a day in my Leaf.[/QUOTE] my uncle used to do 50 km on his roadster per day

Remember the VW scandal about the cheating software manipulating the emission values of diesel cars? Gotta need the specifications for this test. What speed? Temperatures? (In winter you might wanna turn up the AC) How much weight was transported?

[QUOTE=winsanity;52700602]Here's a video on Proterra from a few years ago [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JpMTWdPZ6c[/media][/QUOTE] wow he seems a lot more energetic now.