[QUOTE]Ambulance services across England have spent hundreds of thousands of pounds to ensure vehicles can cope with a growing number of obese patients.
Bariatric ambulances are specially-designed and equipped in response to a 10-fold spike in hospital visits linked to obesity in the past decade
The number of admissions has increased from 52,000 in 2006 to 520,000 in 2016.
-London: Three bariatric vehicles and stretchers which can take patients up to 70 stone (444.5kg). For emergencies, it uses a third party provider.
-East Midlands: 225 bariatric capable vehicles for patients up to 50 stone (317.5kg). Six have hoists and lifts.
-East: Eight vehicles, with 16 bariatric stretchers, at a cost of £432,000 over three years.
-South Central: Has 10 bariatric vehicles arriving this year.
-South West: All ambulances have bariatric capability, including one 'Megasus trolley' for patients up to 60 stone (381kg).
-West Midlands: All 420 A&E ambulances are bariatric capable, but there are eight specialist vehicles and seven on the way, costing £114,000.
-Yorkshire: All ambulances are bariatric capable and the service has 109 bariatric stretchers.
-South East Coast Ambulance (Secamb) has spent £562,000 on three ambulances reinforced to take heavy loads since 2010.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39859428[/url]
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If that isn't the biggest sign of the time I don't know what is.
I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly
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This will go a long wait to helping EMTs and ambulance officers.
Imagine suffering a lifelong workplace injury whilst loading a patient onto a trolley or loading/unloading the trolley from the ambulance. The risk is always there.
In other news, will they be getting new helicopters?
I have a good suggestion:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ehJZfvP.jpg[/t]
Reminds me when the hospital in my city had to call a military black hawk helicopter so they could move an obese person
[QUOTE=Bucketboy;52213951]Reminds me when the hospital in my city had to call a military black hawk helicopter so they could move an obese person[/QUOTE]
I honestly can't tell if I find this funny or sad.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
It's not an easy situation to be in for the hospitals. On one hand, not many people will disagree that obese people are an unnecessary drain on something that is tax-payer funded, the train of thought your taxes will be increased to cover the health costs of obese people is true, and that obviously doesn't sit well.
On the other, you will get people arguing that the government has no right to police what people eat and force them to stop being fat. People arguing for the first part are more or less correct when they say there are many avenues to lose weight, but this means that fat people are still not taking them, and the government can't [I]force[/I] them to. UK already gets hit with the "nanny state" label enough, and it would just, plain and simple, be a bad move to legislate food in order to try and stop people from being obese. Put simply, people have a right to be fat, and the government can't really interfere here without huge amounts of criticism, and if people have a right to be fat, they also have a right to medical care.
[QUOTE=Samiam22;52213977]It's not an easy situation to be in for the hospitals. On one hand, not many people will disagree that obese people are an unnecessary drain on something that is tax-payer funded, the train of thought your taxes will be increased to cover the health costs of obese people is true, and that obviously doesn't sit well.
On the other, you will get people arguing that the government has no right to police what people eat and force them to stop being fat. People arguing for the first part are more or less correct when they say there are many avenues to lose weight, but this means that fat people are still not taking them, and the government can't [I]force[/I] them to. UK already gets hit with the "nanny state" label enough, and it would just, plain and simple, be a bad move to legislate food in order to try and stop people from being obese. Put simply, people have a right to be fat, and the government can't really interfere here without huge amounts of criticism, and if people have a right to be fat, they also have a right to medical care.[/QUOTE]
The fact that you think policing what people can eat (How the fuck would you even enforce this?) is the solution to obesity says it all.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
I mean, they are still people after all, we invest in plenty of other things to save people from of which destroy people slowly but surely, like smoking or drug use, or drinking, over eating is hardly the acceptation, but seems to be the one people hate the most.
None of those people who do those things deserve to be left to die however bad it might seem, plus you have to take into account the number of reasons [I]why[/I] people take up "life destroying" things, like depression, mental illness, just a generally shit life, where eating or smoking or taking drugs is there only outlet of "good" even if it's self destructive.
Plus, the trip to the hospital might be the one thing they need to finally change there ways, like my step father who was overweight, borderline ready for a heart attack and told he would be dead in two years if he didn't change his ways, this gave him the kick up the arse that he needed to loose the weight and finally start eating better.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
so we should only heal people on a strict zen diet of pure vitamins and minerals and water only.
or perhaps you have a family member whose obese but they don't matter as much to the world purely because of fat cells.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;52213982]The fact that you think policing what people can eat (How the fuck would you even enforce this?) is the solution to obesity says it all.[/QUOTE]
When you're morbidly obese... maybe that is the solution?
and maybe you should stop healing those who got into a fight, or have liver problems.
there's plenty of self-destructive people there, maybe you should now have a fine system to determine whose fault the illness is.
Then you get the same people like yourself moaning about the NHS.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;52213935]This will go a long wait to helping EMTs and ambulance officers.
Imagine suffering a lifelong workplace injury whilst loading a patient onto a trolley or loading/unloading the trolley from the ambulance. The risk is always there.
In other news, will they be getting new helicopters?
I have a good suggestion:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ehJZfvP.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
The air ambulance in the UK is a charity, it isn't funded
[QUOTE=jamzzster;52214024]The air ambulance in the UK is a charity, it isn't funded[/QUOTE]
I was pretty confounded when I first heard that to be honest.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
There's a good amount of overweight people who are overweight due to some other physical issue or even psychological issue. There's even some genetic diseases which can more or less cause people to get fat.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
this sounds a lot like when people say "wow more help for the depressed? they need to grow up and stop crying"
a lot of obesity comes from real physical health issues and mental health issues like depression.
>be obese
>die
Problem solved
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[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
What you said can apply to drug users, people suffering from depression and alcoholic with life issues.
So why should we be investing in saving people who destroy other people's lives willingly then?(Murderers and death penalty)
Governments need to invest in pro-health/ healthy weight loss campaigns, it's less costly and it is more effective than most people think. Some people literally dont know that you have to eat healthy.
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I found out the worlds largest ambulance is a bus. Should be able to carry more than enough weight on them.
[QUOTE=AutismoPiggo;52214082]>be obese
>die
Problem solved
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Most ironic username. Checks out.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
So you would prefer private healthcare over single payer?
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;52213982]The fact that you think policing what people can eat (How the fuck would you even enforce this?) is the solution to obesity says it all.[/QUOTE]
IIrc, you get tax or health insurance cost breaks as long as you aren't overweight in Japan (but the people there will also make you very aware of your weight problem regardless of that afaih).
[QUOTE=Tamschi;52214226]IIrc, you get tax or health insurance cost breaks as long as you aren't overweight in Japan (but the people there will also make you very aware of your weight problem regardless of that afaih).[/QUOTE]
healthcare is free in the UK
I'm an EMT, the bari truck/bari stretcher is the bane of my existence
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
do you think obesity solely occurs from bad eating habits or something
for all you know, you could be genetically dis-positioned to be more likely to be fat as something completely out of your control unless you try damn hard to fight it
eating disorders are often deeper issues like depression or trauma
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;52214426]I'm an EMT, the bari truck/bari stretcher is the bane of my existence[/QUOTE]
How so? It's a dedicated unit that takes bariatric patients of your hands?!
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;52214470]How so? It's a dedicated unit that takes bariatric patients of your hands?![/QUOTE]
I meant when I'm the one assigned to it. Also, there are more bariatric stretchers than trucks sometimes, so that means if there is a bariatric patient and I'm in a regular rig, I have to jam the bari stretcher in there, leaving barely any room for patient care
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52213915]I don't really see why we should be investing in saving people who are destroying themselves willingly[/QUOTE]
if you drink, smoke or don't exercise someone might put you in the same group
NHS should be inclusive to avoid the possibility of someone having to make the decision "this person should die because they ate too much pie"
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