Russia apparently is hacking smarthpones of NATO soldiers - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=The Verge] NATO soldiers deployed to eastern Europe are scrambling to defend against smartphone hacks. [URL="https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-targets-soldier-smartphones-western-officials-say-1507109402"]The [I]Wall Street Journal[/I] is reporting[/URL] a new string of phone and account hacks launched against deployed US troops, targeting iCloud, Facebook, and even individual devices. Most of the attacks are not particularly sophisticated, but they could be enough to give away troop movements or other sensitive data if successful.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://nypost.com/2017/10/04/russia-has-been-hacking-smartphones-of-nato-troops/[/URL] [url]https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16418788/russia-phone-hack-nato-soldiers-eastern-europe[/url] Don't know how reliable The Verge and and NY Post are regarding this subject, but they are quoting the WSJ on this. Latvia's national news covered this aswell.

someone explain why russia refuses to stop acting like a bunch of supervillains

[QUOTE=c:;52748351]someone explain why russia refuses to stop acting like a bunch of supervillains[/QUOTE] Because they are supervillains

[QUOTE=Har Mar Super;52748356]Because they are supervillains[/QUOTE] Exactly, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Use_by_Soviet_and_Russian_leaders]whataboutism[/url] is their version of [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoDifferent]"We are not so[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH0YPXb49q0]different, you and I"[/url].

[QUOTE=CupUp;52748280]Don't know how reliable The Verge and and NY Post are regarding this subject, but they are quoting the WSJ on this. Latvia's national news covered this aswell.[/QUOTE] The Verge has a left bias and WSJ is right bias, but seem fairly reliable. NY Post has a tendency to report on things they can't verify or that turn out to be false.

[QUOTE=c:;52748351]someone explain why russia refuses to stop acting like a bunch of supervillains[/QUOTE] Because of your misguided reality that emphasizes moral choice and good conscience. These are ideas that do not work in "upper" society because of basic human nature and smart people who take basic humans for a ride. But to answer your question Russia does this because everyone else is doing it. Its just that everyone likes to point out how big and bad Russia is despite its shitty economy, aged military equipment and constantly breaking infrastructure costing a shit ton to repair making them effectively crippled since their fall.

[QUOTE=usaokay;52748413]It's not just Russia. My cousin is currently in the Marines and told me that when he was stationed in China, he had to forgo all of his internet-accessed electronics because the Chinese hack into it. He mentioned that the Marine base had to block their webcams with sticky notes, and he had to get a new cell phone because it was randomly turning on and off.[/QUOTE] Even military intranets are at risk of getting hacked I remember using the army internet, some guy plugged his thumbdrive and got caught for it, and he had no clue he was getting tracked.

And we hack Russia far more than they do us.

Cyber-warfare and intelligence gathering via this medium is just a part of espionage now. Major countries have been conducting espionage ever since the first world war, the UK and the US in particular have had a long history of it.

[QUOTE=c:;52748351]someone explain why russia refuses to stop acting like a bunch of supervillains[/QUOTE] They've been "losing ground" in many aspects compared to the west. Russia's idea of status quo is the Soviet Union, and just like North Korea they fear for their existence and will use all means to ensure their position in the global "race". They cannot compete with military might so they constantly seek other, subversive means of weakening the west. EDIT: In all likelyhood western nations probably spend a lot of effort on similar tactics.

[QUOTE=cartman;52748445]And we hack Russia far more than they do us.[/QUOTE] Source? Or is this just another "the west is just as bad you know".

The Russian Bear wants to return it's pride and influence so bad. [editline]5th October 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=cartman;52748445]And we hack Russia far more than they do us.[/QUOTE] You might wanna provide a source on that statement.

Who keeps supplying Russia with enough balaclavas to keep up all these hacking attacks?

[QUOTE=Loth;52748612]Source? Or is this just another "the west is just as bad you know".[/QUOTE] We don't really even know if Russia is this bad. The only source on this is a "nato official thinks so". They think it's Russia because it was sophisticated enough, but there is some very contradictory stuff in the articles: [QUOTE]Most of the attacks are not particularly sophisticated, but they could be enough to give away troop movements or other sensitive data if successful.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The Journal attributes the attack to Russian state actors, citing U.S. officials who believe drones and other sophisticated techniques were involved[/QUOTE] So "most of them" were not sophisticated but the Nato officials lead us into believing that some of them were. I'm not taking any sides here and I generally think Russia is a very fucked up state but they're not giving us any proof, or even claiming there is any.

There is this theory Going around that Russia will attack Europe When/ If The US goes to war with North Korea and that's why Russia is propping them up.

This is actually really clever, as you can get troop movement and positions from what soldiers leave their cell phones with GPS. Russia already ran into this problem in a way when their soldiers were taking pictures in illegal territory a few years back.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;52749274]Russia already ran into this problem in a way when their soldiers were taking pictures in illegal territory a few years back.[/QUOTE] This was a matter of lack of OPSEC and not Russian phones being hacked.

Not sure how relevant but shortly after reading this thread I tried to sign up for Uber and there was already an account with my MedicWine email. [quote]Здравствуйте, Rmsad! Мы получили запрос на сброс вашего пароля Uber. Перейдите по ссылке ниже, чтобы задать новый пароль[/quote] I guess I got [url=https://gimletmedia.com/episode/91-the-russian-passenger/]Russian Passenger'd[/url]?

I have no idea how people do this, like technically speaking.

[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;52749812]I have no idea how people do this, like technically speaking.[/QUOTE] WSJ say the attacks are not sophisticated, so they're probably just trying to man-in-the-middle some credentials or perhaps some targeted phishing.

[QUOTE=Ta16;52749742]This was a matter of lack of OPSEC and not Russian phones being hacked.[/QUOTE] That's why I said in a way. The general idea was that cell phones give away troop positions.

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52749270]There is this theory Going around that Russia will attack Europe When/ If The US goes to war with North Korea and that's why Russia is propping them up.[/QUOTE] those russian generals just can't keep their traps shut while playing EVE

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52748442]Even military intranets are at risk of getting hacked I remember using the army internet, some guy plugged his thumbdrive and got caught for it, and he had no clue he was getting tracked.[/QUOTE] Yup. S-2 (the battalion/brigade intelligence and security staff section, for you non-military types) is super fucking anal about us not plugging civilian devices like thumb drives or cell phones cords into government computers. And with good reason.

Every country hacks each-other, it's not really news. In fact .. countries are supposed to spy on each other. I would say that China, India and US are just as bad in that matter.

[QUOTE=usaokay;52748413]It's not just Russia. My cousin is currently in the Marines and told me that when he was stationed in China, he had to forgo all of his internet-accessed electronics because the Chinese hack into it. He mentioned that the Marine base had to block their webcams with sticky notes, and he had to get a new cell phone because his previous phone was randomly turning on and off a week or so after he arrived.[/QUOTE] Just got back from Eastern Europe after 9 months, can confirm that some people's phones randomly turned on/off after connecting to a Wi-Fi spot in base in Poland. They confirmed that a few were comprised and had to get wiped or something. It would make sense you wouldn't even need satellite to find troop locations just hack Pvt sniffy who wanted to talk to his family on a Wi-Fi spot and probably brings it on every field op with power banks so he can jerk off or play games while on downtime.