Pickup unveil in ~2 years
[media]https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/852581322451111936[/media]
Hnggg, thank you Tesla.
Cannot wait to see the pickup. Hopefully it actually looks like a standard American pickup truck, or looks like an old-school pickup from the 50's ~ 70's
[t]http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/PickupTrucks/1951_IHC_International_L110-july8.jpg[/t]
So pretty.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;52098973]Also announced a new conversible Tesla Roadster!
[media]https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/852581046625345536[/media][/QUOTE]
Lets hope they get Lotus in on it again. Or maybe not. The Roadster concepts were hilarious.
I can't imagine a fully electric semi truck will have much of a range
[QUOTE=joost1120;52099000]Lets hope they get Lotus in on it again. Or maybe not. The Roadster concepts were hilarious.[/QUOTE]
I would prefer if it was all new.
Probably going to be a cab-over, can't see Tesla making a conventional one, especially when they don't really require a giant engine room.
What means, probably going to be a lot less popular in the USA than it is going to be in Europe.
[QUOTE=tratzzz;52099011]Probably going to be a cab-over, can't see Tesla making a conventional one, especially when they don't really require a giant engine room.
What means, probably going to be a lot less popular in the USA than it is going to be in Europe.[/QUOTE]
It might not even have a cab. Autonomous semi trucks already exist. Tesla already has a huge preference for self-driving technology. I see no reason for Tesla to have a driver in their semi truck.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;52099005]I can't imagine a fully electric semi truck will have much of a range[/QUOTE]
It might actually have quiet a bit of range because it'd have the ability to store extra battery banks, not to mention the same would be true for the pickups.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;52098994]Hnggg, thank you Tesla.
Cannot wait to see the pickup. Hopefully it actually looks like a standard American pickup truck, or looks like an old-school pickup from the 50's ~ 70's
[t]http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/PickupTrucks/1951_IHC_International_L110-july8.jpg[/t]
So pretty.[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt it would look anything like that if they did make one, but I don't remember them announcing a pickup. The tweet is about a semi. Semi as in:
[t]http://www.macktrucks.com/-/media/images/trucks/mack_modelseries_pinnaclesleeper_lgpromo2_axleback.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;52099036]It might actually have quiet a bit of range because it'd have the ability to store extra battery banks, not to mention the same would be true for the pickups.[/QUOTE]
That, and couldn't you slap a few solar cells on the top of the cargo containers they ship? Boom, you got a source of power on the road, all you gotta do is stop to rest and let the cells charge.
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[QUOTE=Elspin;52099045]I seriously doubt it would look anything like that if they did make one, but I don't remember them announcing a pickup. The tweet is about a semi. Semi as in:
[t]http://www.macktrucks.com/-/media/images/trucks/mack_modelseries_pinnaclesleeper_lgpromo2_axleback.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Dude, he's referring to the tweet Musk made that Morgen posted above him stating a pick up reveal in 2018. I think he knows the difference between a pickup and a semi.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52099048]That, and couldn't you slap a few solar cells on the top of the cargo containers they ship? Boom, you got a source of power on the road, all you gotta do is stop to rest and let the cells charge.[/QUOTE]
Considering those cargo containers are stacked under heavy loads in dockyards, making the roofs solar panels without compromising on strength will be a challenge.
[QUOTE=OvB;52099027]It might not even have a cab. Autonomous semi trucks already exist. Tesla already has a huge preference for self-driving technology. I see no reason for Tesla to have a driver in their semi truck.[/QUOTE]
I'd say it would still have to have a driver due to legal reasons and bureaucracy. Like giving a signature when the package has been delivered.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;52099005]I can't imagine a fully electric semi truck will have much of a range[/QUOTE]
I can imagine a fully electric semi truck will have loads of space for batteries compared to a skateboard chassis sedan
[QUOTE=tratzzz;52099067]I'd say it would still have to have a driver due to legal reasons and bureaucracy. Like giving a signature when the package has been delivered.[/QUOTE]
the chassis could be designed to operate on its own with a sensor array and minimal excess body mass, then plop an operator cab on top for the ones who need it. Would likely start out with cabs and remove them as needs change.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;52099066]Considering those cargo containers are stacked under heavy loads in dockyards, making the roofs solar panels without compromising on strength will be a challenge.[/QUOTE]
Oh no no, have them so they could be installed at the docks when they get off the cargo ships if they're meant for road based transport. If they go by train, why put solar cells on them?
[QUOTE=snookypookums;52099066]Considering those cargo containers are stacked under heavy loads in dockyards, making the roofs solar panels without compromising on strength will be a challenge.[/QUOTE]
the stress is all on the corners and corrugated side walls, just indent the panel down and put a huge sheet of plexi over it or something
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52099078]Oh no no, have them so they could be installed at the docks when they get off the cargo ships if they're meant for road based transport. [B]If they go by train, why put solar cells on them?[/B][/QUOTE]
my best guess/idea to put forth would be to provide power to the train* or charge empty cells stowed away on a charger car somewhere along the train
would also probably be a bit pricey transplanting/storing solar units, especially if it runs more risk of damaging them
*imagine if train cars had electric motors in the wheels to aid the motion of the full train? Even just a little bit of added push would be a massive relief on the main engine, speeding up starts and stops
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52099048]Dude, he's referring to the tweet Musk made that Morgen posted above him stating a pick up reveal in 2018. I think he knows the difference between a pickup and a semi.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's my bad, I missed that tweet
[QUOTE=Morgen;52098988]Pickup unveil in ~2 years
[media]https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/852581322451111936[/media][/QUOTE]
Holy shit finally! I've been wanting an electric pickup on the market. This will be great for city construction crews.
[QUOTE=dai;52099089]to provide power to the train and save cost of transplanting/storing solar units, which runs more risk of damaging them[/QUOTE]
I can understand this, it's just most US trains aren't electric powered are they? I thought they were some form of gas or diesel driven engine, hence why I said why install cells on something driven by fuels?
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52099099]I can understand this, it's just most US trains aren't electric powered are they? I thought they were some form of gas or diesel driven engine, hence why I said why install cells on something driven by fuels?[/QUOTE]
The diesel engine only functions as a generator for electric motors in the locomotive's axles. Hybrid locomotives already exist here.
I doubt Tesla would require any kind of proprietary trailer or whatever. The guy leading the team at Tesla for the semi truck is Jerome Guillen, who led the development of Daimler's Cascadia truck.
[QUOTE=OvB;52099027]It might not even have a cab. Autonomous semi trucks already exist. Tesla already has a huge preference for self-driving technology. I see no reason for Tesla to have a driver in their semi truck.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't you need someone to watch over the load and and check out paperwork at warehouses? I see drivers go into the warehouses behind stores all the time to have someone sign some papers and unload the cargo.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;52099066]Considering those cargo containers are stacked under heavy loads in dockyards, making the roofs solar panels without compromising on strength will be a challenge.[/QUOTE]
The roof of the container doesn't actually bear any weight, all the weight is on the joints on each corner that latch containers together.
Note the ~2 inch gaps between the tops and bottoms of these stacked containers:
[img]http://www.containeralliance.com/informative-articles/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/red-stack1.jpg[/img]
Looking forward to see how far the range is on the semi truck. Either way, I hope it will set a precedent for a future of semis being electric.
[QUOTE=dai;52099076]I can imagine a fully electric semi truck will have loads of space for batteries compared to a skateboard chassis sedan[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that add some pretty considerable weight?
[QUOTE=OvB;52099007]I would prefer if it was all new.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see what Tesla could think of. The roadster won't be a sports car anyway, so it doesn't matter if they fuck up the handling.
It'll be a cabover no doubt. Better for international markets where it will most likely do best at first.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;52099066]Considering those cargo containers are stacked under heavy loads in dockyards, making the roofs solar panels without compromising on strength will be a challenge.[/QUOTE]
Thise aren't the only kind of trailers trucks can haul
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In fact I'd say they're less common than actual dedicated trailers
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[QUOTE=God of Ashes;52099317]Wouldn't that add some pretty considerable weight?[/QUOTE]
They're already heavy as fuck, it'll help with traction. :v:
[QUOTE=tratzzz;52099011]Probably going to be a cab-over, can't see Tesla making a conventional one, especially when they don't really require a giant engine room.
What means, probably going to be a lot less popular in the USA than it is going to be in Europe.[/QUOTE]
Is there a reason cab-overs don't sell well here? From what I can tell, they're popular in other countries because of size, but is it going to hinder sales if the truck is shorter? It's not like a normal cab-over where the engine is harder to access.
I could still see Tesla going with a conventional layout because of aerodynamics even if engine size is irrelevant, or something like the Nikola One
[t]http://icdn3.digitaltrends.com/image/nikola_one_white-fuel-cell-truck-1200x630-c.jpg[/t]
where it's somewhat cab-over like, but with a less flat front end.
Musk has previously mentioned targeting the Ford F150. I don't know anything about pickups but I'd expect it to be similar to that.
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