82 Chibok schoolgirls freed in exchange for five Boko Haram leaders - Sensationalist Headlines

[quote]Months of negotiations involving participants across two continents has resulted in a deal in which 82 Chibok schoolgirls – who were seized from their dormitories in April 2014 and held captive for more than three years by the Islamist group Boko Haram – have been released in exchange for five militant leaders. But joy at their freedom was quickly followed by concern for their privacy and fears that the thousands of other less high-profile prisoners still held captive by the extremists would be forgotten. The deal was negotiated by Mustapha Zanna, a barrister who is currently the proprietor of an orphanage in Maiduguri, but who was once the lawyer of the late founder of Boko Haram, Mohammed Yusuf. It also involved the Swiss government and the Red Cross. Picked up in Red Cross vehicles and given the agency’s branded T-shirts to wear, the young women boarded military helicopters and were flown to the capital, Abuja, to meet the country’s president, Muhammadu Buhari, as anxious families awaited an official list of the names of those released. Information was given out gradually: by mid-afternoon, only 20 names had been published. Buhari, who has not been seen in public for several weeks because of illness, later flew to London for medical checkups. His departure had been delayed so he could meet the Chibok women, according to his office.[/quote] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/07/chibok-schoolgirls-familes-await-as-82-are-freed-by-boko-haram-exchange-prison[/url]

you do what you gotta do for the kids.

That's a stupid trade. Boko Haram has the resources to kidnap whoever whenever in Nigeria. To give up 5 of what I assume are large leaders within the organization for 82 of the thousands they have already kidnapped is a ridiculously bad ratio. I understand Boko Haram is NOT the place to wind up in if your a woman (or a man but that's another matter) but ending the cult and tying up loose ends takes precedence when it runs a hostile micro-country actively recruiting and terrorizing your populace in an effort to destroy and absorb your government.

^82 lives saved is better than none at all.

wouldn't this just cause a new wave of kidnappings? good call idiots....

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52200294]That's a stupid trade. Boko Haram has the resources to kidnap whoever whenever in Nigeria. To give up 5 of what I assume are large leaders within the organization for 82 of the thousands they have already kidnapped is a ridiculously bad ratio. I understand Boko Haram is NOT the place to wind up in if your a woman (or a man but that's another matter) but ending the cult and tying up loose ends takes precedence when it runs a hostile micro-country actively recruiting and terrorizing your populace in an effort to destroy and absorb your government.[/QUOTE] To be fair, if these 5 leaders were caught once before...

[QUOTE=Amplar;52200352]^82 lives saved is better than none at all.[/QUOTE] Is 82 lives worth the homes of 2.5 million people who were displaced from 1/3 of the country due to the ongoing conflict? look we can argue this all you like but it serves everyone in Nigeria better to cut out the cancerous tumor called Boko Haram. Dealing with them only furthers their legitimacy to the public and gives them a voice. It's sad that innocents get caught up in the middle of this but unfortunately the only options are a long bloody civil war now, or a long bloody civil war later, as that is exactly what the Insurgent provisional government wants and with time will do.

[QUOTE=Amplar;52200352]^82 lives saved is better than none at all.[/QUOTE] One is better than none at all, would that for five be a good deal? I don't claim that they made a bad choice, there were no 'good' options here.

Boko Haram are on the defensive, losing in Nigeria anyway. It's better to save these girls now with a trade than to liberate their graves at some point. And if you really are feeling barbaric, these 5 leaders are no longer POWs and now valid military targets.

I guess it's nice and all to free people, but on the other hand, if you never negotiated or dealt with kidnappers/pirates, ever, then that trade would eventually die out. Throwing in and saying okay here you go just means it works and they'll continue doing it

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52200558]Is 82 lives worth the homes of 2.5 million people who were displaced from 1/3 of the country due to the ongoing conflict? look we can argue this all you like but it serves everyone in Nigeria better to cut out the cancerous tumor called Boko Haram. Dealing with them only furthers their legitimacy to the public and gives them a voice. It's sad that innocents get caught up in the middle of this but unfortunately the only options are a long bloody civil war now, or a long bloody civil war later, as that is exactly what the Insurgent provisional government wants and with time will do.[/QUOTE] I don't think if they let the leaders go they probably weren't all that important. You can't know how many of these five have meanwhile been turned into double agents, too.

"We do not negotiate with terrorists" is something not only made up by Hollywood, but a completely asinine, unrealistic policy to maintain.

I wonder what the chances are that all 5 of these leaders had some sort of tracking device planted on them. Not like, an implant or anything, idk if that shit even exists, but like a gps chip woven into some thick clothes or something.

[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;52202032]I wonder what the chances are that all 5 of these leaders had some sort of tracking device planted on them. Not like, an implant or anything, idk if that shit even exists, but like a gps chip woven into some thick clothes or something.[/QUOTE] Would be redundant as you can expect them to change clothes the moment they're free and there's no reason to believe the clothes they brought with them will remain with them when they changed.

[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;52202032]I wonder what the chances are that all 5 of these leaders had some sort of tracking device planted on them. Not like, an implant or anything, idk if that shit even exists, but like a gps chip woven into some thick clothes or something.[/QUOTE] Why not an implant? there's plenty of discreet rfid implant tech today. You would just need to inject a few extra components. I suppose there might be some sort of international convention against it.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;52202509]Why not an implant? there's plenty of discreet rfid implant tech today. You would just need to inject a few extra components. I suppose there might be some sort of international convention against it.[/QUOTE] I'd figure that's what they'd do, I just don't know if we have the tech tbh, always kinda thought discrete GPS tracking implants were kinda tinfoil-hat stuff. [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52202042]Would be redundant as you can expect them to change clothes the moment they're free and there's no reason to believe the clothes they brought with them will remain with them when they changed.[/QUOTE] Yeah I figured, but if they have implants that can do it or something, idk. I'm mainly just proposing them having the means to track them in some way, it wouldn't matter if you traded prisoners then, because it'd only see benefit to you in the end.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;52202509]Why not an implant? there's plenty of discreet rfid implant tech today. You would just need to inject a few extra components. I suppose there might be some sort of international convention against it.[/QUOTE] There's probably really no need. Nigeria already knows where the Boko Haram strongholds are. If anything, they can just keep an eye on them via satellite, or even by plane.

[QUOTE=Shirt.;52200294]That's a stupid trade. Boko Haram has the resources to kidnap whoever whenever in Nigeria. To give up 5 of what I assume are large leaders within the organization for 82 of the thousands they have already kidnapped is a ridiculously bad ratio. I understand Boko Haram is NOT the place to wind up in if your a woman (or a man but that's another matter) but ending the cult and tying up loose ends takes precedence when it runs a hostile micro-country actively recruiting and terrorizing your populace in an effort to destroy and absorb your government.[/QUOTE] Why don't you go look up what they do to women and girls. No one including yourself cannot say what is bad decision. They saved 82 fucking children, 82.