[QUOTE]Facebook slaying suspect Steve Stephens was undone by a 20-piece Chicken McNuggets and an order of fries.
The man who police say shot a Cleveland retiree at random and posted video of the killing on Facebook pulled up to the drive-thru window of a McDonald's restaurant outside Erie, Pennsylvania, and waited for his order.
It was late Tuesday morning, almost lunchtime, and authorities were in the third day of an intensive manhunt for Stephens.
Now, more than 100 miles from the shooting, his time on the run was nearly up.
The attendant who took his money recognized the suspect and dialed 911. Stephens pulled up to the next window, where restaurant owner Thomas DuCharme Jr. and a supervisor tried stalling him by telling him his fries were delayed.
Stephens didn't want to wait. He took his McNuggets and whipped out of the parking lot, nearly hitting Gail Wheeler, 54, a retail operations manager from Erie who was on her way home from the grocery store.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-cleveland-facebook-suspect-mcdonalds-20170419-story.html[/url]
Its a shame the killer wont be facing the law after what he's done.
[QUOTE=spazthemax;52125346]Its a shame the killer wont be facing the law after what he's done.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't hurt my feelings much, I'm just glad he's no longer a threat to anyone.
chicken nuggies take down thuggies
Fun fact: He whipped out his pistol and offed himself while spinning out of control after a trooper conducted the PIT maneuver on his Fusion.
[quote]Stephens was spotted in a McDonald's parking lot in Erie County just after 11 a.m. by a member of the public who quickly contacted Pennsylvania State Police. After a 2-mile chase, [b]"troopers attempted a PIT maneuver to disable Stephens’ vehicle...As the vehicle was spinning out of control from the PIT maneuver, Stephens pulled a pistol and shot himself in the head,"[/b] a state police Facebook statement said.[/quote]
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/18/facebook-killer-steve-stephens-dead-police-say.html[/url]
McDonalds has killed more people than anyone could ever possibly imagine. Don't fuck with the clown.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52125376]Fun fact: He whipped out his pistol and offed himself while spinning out of control after a trooper conducted the PIT maneuver on his Fusion.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/18/facebook-killer-steve-stephens-dead-police-say.html[/url][/QUOTE]
He takes someones else life and is such a bitch he doesn't want to face the consequences. All because of some "Joy Lane".
Good riddance, at least. The world is better off now.
to think that if he didn't order the mcnugget he wouldn't have been found
i hope he ate them before he killed himself
Snippy
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52125393]He takes someones else life and is such a bitch he doesn't want to face the consequences. All because of some "Joy Lane".
Good riddance, at least. The world is better off now.[/QUOTE]
I somehow highly doubt it was [I]just[/I] an ex breaking up with the dude that caused him to snap like this. Don't jump to rash conclusions so quickly -- all you end up doing is demonizing the root causes and judging him for who you saw, not what led up to it. We've had plenty of "Steve Stephens" over the years, people who suffer deeply inside but never have anyone to turn to and end up bringing a few down with them. The dude worked in a behavioral mental health facility, and any cracks he may have had with him previously could have been exasperated by his work there.
Americans have almost no regard for mental health in general, we sit around on our keyboards telling others to simply "tough it up" while we suffer ourselves, not realizing that the calloused disguise we put on everyday just hides a bruised ego. A lot of people take the silent way out by hanging themselves from their ceiling fan, and those are the ones you never hear about. They all have the potential to become a "Steve Stephens".
I'm not saying what this guy did was right in any way, btw. Walking up to a [I]completely[/I] innocent and irrelevant bystander just to plug them in the head? That's something no sane person would do, because sane people have locks and self-defense instincts not to pull that kind of stuff. I'm glad this guy is off the streets, but it's a shame he killed himself before we could learn about his motives and reasoning, and why he went so far off the deep end. Hopefully it'll spark more discussion for how we regard mental health & therapy in this country.
Kudos to the employees trying to stall him. I would have been shitting myself knowing who and how volatile he was.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;52125414]Thats what you get for running from the cops in a [I][b]pt cruiser[/b][/I][/QUOTE]
[t]https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/nintchdbpict000317684990.jpg[/t]
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[QUOTE=aznz888;52125434]Americans have almost no regard for mental health in general, we sit around on our keyboards telling others to simply "tough it up" while we suffer ourselves, not realizing that the calloused disguise we put on everyday just hides a bruised ego. A lot of people take the silent way out by hanging themselves from their ceiling fan, and those are the ones you never hear about. They all have the potential to become a "Steve Stephens".[/QUOTE]
i think it is pretty damaging and stigmatizing to people with mental health issues to imply that everyone with them has a chance of breaking and murdering people.
[editline]19th April 2017[/editline]
like jesus dude the vast majority of people struggling with mental health will never come close to considering murdering people at random. that is the minority of cases
Considering where the McDonalds is, I think he might've tried to make a break for the Canadian border. Route 20 (where that McDonalds is in Wesleyville) runs parallel to I90 from Cleveland to Buffalo. He might have tried to stay on that road to stay off the interstate and try to cross the border. He probably wouldnt have made it considering his image has been splashed all over the news, but thats just my theory
i've been seeing this a lot recently, people saying "we need to end the stigma on mental illness in this country" and "everyone who is mentally ill has a chance of snapping and murdering". that is actively promoting the stigmas you want to get rid of.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52125569]i've been seeing this a lot recently, people saying "we need to end the stigma on mental illness in this country" and "everyone who is mentally ill has a chance of snapping and murdering". that is actively promoting the stigmas you want to get rid of.[/QUOTE]
Okayvwe just won't acknowledge reality then
Shootings and other events of that nature are disproportionally linked to mental health issues. I suffer/ed from depression for 20 years. Snapping is a real possibility I found. No one wants to end up like this guy, but there is a real stigma around getting help, it's just a fact that these incidents can be linked to higher instances of mental health. That's something that has to be dealt with
[url=http://nypost.com/2017/04/18/facebook-murder-suspect-died-hungry-for-chicken-nuggets/]I know NYPost isn't reliable but I pray to god that these were the actual words exchanged[/url]
[quote]“He was becoming very nervous,” franchise owner Tom •DuCharme Jr. told The Post.
He and his workers bravely stalled the order to buy time.
“It will be a minute for the fries,” DuCharme recalled telling Stephens.
But the killer wasn’t lovin’ it.
“No, I can’t wait!” Stephens snapped. “I need my nuggets now!”
After getting the nuggets and waiting a few more minutes, •Stephens peeled away.
Troopers were in hot pursuit seconds later and caught up with him about two miles away.
He turned his gun on himself just as cops were closing in, •police officials said.[/quote]
It reads like one of those "my autistic son when we're out of chicken tendies" memes
I'll always remember his last words
"I need my nuggets now!"
truly a message we all can find wisdom in
[editline]fake editline nigga[/editline]
seriously though, i wish he had been taken alive so that there could be some closure on why he did what he did, and maybe some indication on the truthfulness of the whole 13(?) other victims thing
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52125590]Okayvwe just won't acknowledge reality then
Shootings and other events of that nature are disproportionally linked to mental health issues. I suffer/ed from depression for 20 years. Snapping is a real possibility I found. No one wants to end up like this guy, but there is a real stigma around getting help, it's just a fact that these incidents can be linked to higher instances of mental health. That's something that has to be dealt with[/QUOTE]
framing it in the light of "get mental health help before you explode and kill someone" seems less effective to me than "get mental health help to improve your quality of life and help alleviate the daily anguish".
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52125590]Okayvwe just won't acknowledge reality then
Shootings and other events of that nature are disproportionally linked to mental health issues. I suffer/ed from depression for 20 years. Snapping is a real possibility I found. No one wants to end up like this guy, but there is a real stigma around getting help, it's just a fact that these incidents can be linked to higher instances of mental health. That's something that has to be dealt with[/QUOTE]
Yeah but that's not normal, even for people with mental health problems
the vast majortiy of people with mental health problems will be more likely to harm themselves than another person, or suffer from other things, and most will never want to 'snap and hurt other people'
when you apply 'well they might snap and kill a bunch of people!' to every mentally ill person you're just making us seem like fuckin'
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crazed killer lunatics like you see in movies, and that's the exact opposite of helpful
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52125590]Okayvwe just won't acknowledge reality then
Shootings and other events of that nature are disproportionally linked to mental health issues. I suffer/ed from depression for 20 years. Snapping is a real possibility I found. No one wants to end up like this guy, but there is a real stigma around getting help, it's just a fact that these incidents can be linked to higher instances of mental health. That's something that has to be dealt with[/QUOTE]
Simplifying mental illness and generalizing over such a large and varied group of people, saying that "Snapping is a real possibility I found" just because you were at a point in your life where you felt close to that is a very reckless thing to do and I'm sure you can see why.
Ninja'd but w/e
What the hell made him think he could broadcast to the entire world he was a psycho and claiming to be a serial killer...
and then stroll up to McDonalds thinking nobody would raise an eyebrow and recognize him?
Reminds me of Big Smoke
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Shit my bad i misread the article. Ignore me.
If people left alone and discouraged from getting mental help they will more likely snap. That's a fact and it shouldn't be "stigmatizing".
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52125770]Yeah but that's not normal, even for people with mental health problems
the vast majortiy of people with mental health problems will be more likely to harm themselves than another person, or suffer from other things, and most will never want to 'snap and hurt other people'
when you apply 'well they might snap and kill a bunch of people!' to every mentally ill person you're just making us seem like fuckin'
[t]https://spirit.scene7.com/is/image/Spirit/07262645-a?$CrossSell$[/t]
crazed killer lunatics like you see in movies, and that's the exact opposite of helpful[/QUOTE]
I think what he was meant to say was since there are so many disincentives to finding professional help for mental health problems (high costs, lack of insurance coverage, horrible social stigmas, etc...) the chance of a person snapping and harming either themselves or others is statistically higher than it should be due to people not receiving help they need.
[U]This doesn't mean all people with health problems are potentially dangerous[/U]. It means that our healthcare is shit and more resources for mental health wellness should be readily available to everyone without negative consequences for using those services.
As things are now, not everyone can get good help even if they wanted to, and that needs to be fixed.
Question, why do we assume evil is the result of mental instability? Is evil inherently insane, or are we afraid of the idea of sane people not being inherently good?
are we going to see this argument every time someone goes on a killing spree or commits a murder?
"Oh have some empathy, you don't know what it's like, have you any idea what mental illness is."
there isn't one single thread of evidence to prove this cowardly murderer was mentally ill.
do you think he spend a lot of time trying to fit "murder old man with pistol for no reason" into is schedule
[QUOTE=Mining Bill;52126192]do you think he spend a lot of time trying to fit "murder old man with pistol for no reason" into is schedule[/QUOTE]
Are you saying spontaneity only happens to the mentally unstable?
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