Police shoot couple having sex while dressed as Joker and Harley Quinn at Melbourne party

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[QUOTE]MELBOURNE - Two people, dressed as the Joker and Harley Quinn from the movie Suicide Squad, were having sex at a Melbourne nightclub when they were shot in a police raid.They were at a swingers party - where people go to have sex with strangers - at Inflation nightclub.
Police received multiple reports of the 35-year-old man being armed with a gun in a room before 3am on Saturday (July 8), according to The Mirror.
The gun was reportedly a toy gun for his costume.

Victoria Police Superintendent Lisa Hardeman said local police arrived first, before the Critical Incident Response team decided what to do.
She explained that the officers had called out to the man, but he took the firearm from his pants and aimed it at them.

They shot him in the torso, and later tasered him too, according to news.com.au.
"A number of shots were fired. A number of police options were used after he was shot," said Ms Hardeman.
The Age reported that the man was taken to hospital in a critical condition but was later stabilised, while the woman was shot in the leg and was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.
The nightclub has accused police of overreacting, and says it has lodged a formal complaint with the Chief Commissioner of Police.
In a Facebook post, club owner Martha Tsamis said: "These events have been held for approximately 20 years at Inflation without any incident.
"Participants are generally older adults who come in costume and engage with each other in adult fantasies."
She added that in all the parties, participants' costumes and accessories have to be shown to security before they can enter.
Security had taken note of the plastic toy accessory, Ms Tsamis said, and the police were told that when they arrived.[/QUOTE]

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[Mr. Neighborson]

The last sentence says police were told it was plastic. It is inexcusable these people were shot and tasered.

[Pie_Savvy]

[QUOTE=antair;52450084]The last sentence says police were told it was plastic. It is inexcusable these people were shot and tasered.[/QUOTE]

Victoria Police Superintendent Lisa Hardeman said local police arrived first, before the Critical Incident Response team decided what to do.
She explained that the officers had called out to the man, but he took the firearm from his pants and aimed it at them.

Sounds like he made a really stupid move, even if it was plastic.

[Mickyan]

[QUOTE=antair;52450084]The last sentence says police were told it was plastic. It is inexcusable these people were shot and tasered.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to see you make the split second decision to gamble your life on what some nightclub bouncer tells you

If the guy actually took out the gun and aimed at them he's the only one to blame

[Nautsabes]

[QUOTE=Pie_Tony;52450109]Victoria Police Superintendent Lisa Hardeman said local police arrived first, before the Critical Incident Response team decided what to do.
She explained that the officers had called out to the man, but he took the firearm from his pants and aimed it at them.

Sounds like he made a really stupid move, even if it was plastic.[/QUOTE]

look at it from his perspective tho, given the circumstances, he prolly thought they were just other costumed swingers trying to horn in on his action

[coup]

[QUOTE=Pie_Tony;52450109]Victoria Police Superintendent Lisa Hardeman said local police arrived first, before the Critical Incident Response team decided what to do.
She explained that the officers had called out to the man, but he took the firearm from his pants and aimed it at them.

Sounds like he made a really stupid move, even if it was plastic.[/QUOTE]

No sure about Aussie police, but in the US police departments are known to lie extensively on reports to make it seem as though they're in the right. As an American, I can't help but be skeptical of that and wait for some actual proof.

[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=Nautsabes;52450139]look at it from his perspective tho, given the circumstances, he prolly thought they were just other costumed swingers trying to horn in on his action[/QUOTE]

Also this, lmao, this is a very real possibility I didn't even consider. This is just a bizarre situation all around.

[MR-X]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52450151]No sure about Aussie police, but in the US police departments are known to lie extensively on reports to make it seem as though they're in the right. As an American, I can't help but be skeptical of that and wait for some actual proof.

[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]

Also this, lmao, this is a very real possibility I didn't even consider. This is just a bizarre situation all around.[/QUOTE]

Oh boy here we go. Didn't take 4 posts before going into topic.

Please provide us proof that US Police lie extensively.
Just for shits and giggles lets say one whole police department is filled with corrupt liars. Does that necessarily mean every report that comes out globally is a lie too? Get a grip.

[Tuskin]

Please no, that isn't the topic at hand. Take it to PM's.

[evilweazel]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52450151]No sure about Aussie police, but in the US police departments are known to lie extensively on reports to make it seem as though they're in the right. As an American, I can't help but be skeptical of that and wait for some actual proof.

[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]

Also this, lmao, this is a very real possibility I didn't even consider. This is just a bizarre situation all around.[/QUOTE]

Just gonna ignore the junk in the 1st paragraph and say that pointing a toy gun at strangers is incredibly dumb and a fantastic way to get shot or tazed.

[Scratch]

I was wondering why he cops were called so I re-read the article. It should be made known that toy guns should be made well aware that they are of that, without much margin for error. Seeing as people at the club felt concerned or worried for their safety about it.
Cops do confiscate and destroy realistic looking toy weaponry.
There's just a number of things here that did go horribly wrong

[Fire Kracker]

fyi plastic guns can look pretty damn realistic

[t]http://www.blackfiregear.com/image/cache/catalog/Products/Pistol/Gas_Blowback/tokyo_marui/Tokyo_Marui_GLOCK_17_TM-GBB-G17_002-1138x640.jpg[/t] i doubt people could tell this is not a real glock

[t]http://img-cdn.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/MRUS-047914-1L.jpg[/t] or that this wasnt a real blackhawk

[Dr. Haxx]

Talk about the ultimate cockblock...

Fucking police ruining lives :D

[sp]They were told that all plastic 'accessories' were checked by the security team...[/sp]

[IKTM]

It sounds like they'll both survive, at least.

[redBadger]

Where can I find clubs like this tho

[Curls]

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;52450249]fyi plastic guns can look pretty damn realistic
i doubt people could tell this is not a real glock[/QUOTE]

Aren't many real glocks plastic though

[HighVoltage]

[QUOTE=redBadger;52450348]Where can I find clubs like this tho[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure they are invitation only to keep anybody from getting in

[Str4fe]

To be fair, just because its known that the guy has a toy gun doesn't mean he couldn't have a real gun also.

[c:]

Ethan and Mo are at it again. JOKER AND HARLEY SEX PRANK (GONE WRONG) (GONE VIOLENT)

[Fire Kracker]

[QUOTE=J!NX;52450353]Aren't many real glocks plastic though[/QUOTE]
only the frame

[Topzombie]

[QUOTE=Fort83;52450277]Entirely that guys fault. Real or not don't point a gun at police.[/QUOTE]

He most likely didn't know it was a real cop

[IAmIroningMyDog]

Don't toy guns have orange tipped barrels for easy identification?

[Fire Kracker]

[QUOTE=Citrus705;52450613]Don't toy guns have orange tipped barrels for easy identification?[/QUOTE]

only when sold

[Tuskin]

[QUOTE=Citrus705;52450613]Don't toy guns have orange tipped barrels for easy identification?[/QUOTE]

People can remove/paint over those.

[Pascall]

Did the cops identify themselves when they strolled on up there or - ?

I dunno I find it hard to blame the dude for thinking they were costumed cops instead of real ones, considering the party theme...

I find it hard to blame anyone in this situation tbh. It's just a weird one.

[Qwerty Bastard]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52450151]No sure about Aussie police, but in the US police departments are known to lie extensively on reports to make it seem as though they're in the right. As an American, I can't help but be skeptical of that and wait for some actual proof.

[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]

Also this, lmao, this is a very real possibility I didn't even consider. This is just a bizarre situation all around.[/QUOTE]

Oh I've met a few Melbourne cops and heard about their reputation while I was over there, they can be well shady and something like that wouldn't surprise me.

I remember a friend of mine accidentally tried to sell drugs to a cop in Melbourne, the cop showed him his badge, but said it was all good. Later he told us he was A) Part of a local gang, and B) On meth. That was pretty much par for the course for ol' Melly.

[Qwerty Bastard]

[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52450834]hmm

i lived in melbourne and every single cop i met was a straight shooter and incredibly nice and polite

youl get shit ones sure, but lmao its really hard to believe your friends story considering i met like at least 300 cops when i lived in the cbd and not a single one was rude to my drunk ass[/QUOTE]

Well he wasn't rude at all, I think the meth and the weed (which we smoked with him) mellowed him out. He was well known around the area for being chill, but also a bit of a druggie. All I'm saying is that when you've got gang members and drugfies on the force maybe you need to run a tighter ship. But if you've met that many cops (I've met maybe four and half of them were giving me fines) you definitely have a better idea of them than my extremely limited view :v:

[Sims_doc]

Wow, I didn't expect to see a headline like this in Melbourne.

[TheTalon]

Well when the police show up after multiple reports that a guy has a gun, even if security at the door tells them all props were checked in at the door before people were allowed to enter, the police are probably going to shoot you anyway if you fucking point it at them

And the sad part is he probably pointed it at them thinking they were in costume, not in uniform

[Araknid]

[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;52450818]Oh I've met a few Melbourne cops and heard about their reputation while I was over there, they can be well shady and something like that wouldn't surprise me.

I remember a friend of mine accidentally tried to sell drugs to a cop in Melbourne, the cop showed him his badge, but said it was all good. Later he told us he was A) Part of a local gang, and B) On meth. That was pretty much par for the course for ol' Melly.[/QUOTE]

Literally everyone that I've heard complain about Melbourne police were dropkick retards.

Someone I know posted a video of himself delivering a can of piss to a police station because a police officer warned him that he should wear a helmet (can't remember if he was fined though) while riding his bike. That's the law and it exists for peoples safety.

[Carlito]

[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52451064]depends on the area i guess

youd get a lot of iffy shit in the north/north west

i mostly dealt with CBD police[/QUOTE]

Maybe you shouldn't generalise all of the Melbourne police force based upon your anecdotal encounters? Melbourne police are notorious for being trigger happy in addition to Australian police being a bit shit in general.