Coffee roasting competition in Melbourne out to find the best coffee in the world
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[quote]The quest to find the best coffee roaster in the world has kicked off in Melbourne, with a record number of 820 entries from nine countries in this year's Australian International Coffee Awards.
Key points:
- 300 milk-based entries, 200 espresso entries, entries for filter coffee, pour over, soy milk and immersion
- Judges assess different attributes like flavour, aftertaste, acidity
- The head barista says Australia is regularly breaking new ground in the coffee industry
A panel of almost 40 judges will be blind-testing up to 30 coffees a day over three days — not an exercise for the faint hearted.
"I've had some great coffee this morning," head judge Melissa Caia said.
"I've had probably 10, 12, 15 samples — I don't know, I lose count. I've just got to remember not to drink it all because I've still got the rest of the day to go, and I can drink up to 30 or 40 samples."[/quote]
Read more, including who's winning, the side effects experienced by judges, and the science of coffee, at [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/coffee-roasting-competition-out-to-find-the-best-in-the-world/8339276[/url]
Someone call Jerry Seinfeld, this would make for a great episode of Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee.
I would love to go to an event like this
I just fucking love coffee
I've noticed on my trips to Australia that they have a pretty solid coffee culture there. You Aussies seem to be [I]very[/I] particular about your coffee and some of the best coffee I've had has, coincidentally, been at Aussie cafes.
Is there any particular reason you decided to not go with the rest of the commonwealth and not favour tea as much?
[QUOTE=snookypookums;51938515]I've noticed on my trips to Australia that they have a pretty solid coffee culture there. You Aussies seem to be [I]very[/I] particular about your coffee and some of the best coffee I've had has, coincidentally, been at Aussie cafes.
Is there any particular reason you decided to not go with the rest of the commonwealth and not favour tea as much?[/QUOTE]
Coffee provides the caffeine hit to give us energy to escape our predators. But yes we are very particular about our coffee. Unless you like Blend 43, which is coffee for people who only pretend to like coffee.
[QUOTE=BF;51938540][B]Coffee provides the caffeine hit to give us energy to escape our predators.[/B] But yes we are very particular about our coffee. Unless you like Blend 43, which is coffee for people who only pretend to like coffee.[/QUOTE]
That....makes more sense than it should. :wideeye:
Having never heard of Blend 43, I shall take your word for it.
Imagine the unbelievably orgasmic miasma of coffee fumes. Oh! The sweetness of the air...
[QUOTE=DOCTOR LIGHT;51938550]Imagine the unbelievably orgasmic miasma of coffee fumes. Oh! The sweetness of the air...[/QUOTE]
It never ceases to amaze me that something that smells that fucking delicious can be so fucking bitter. It's like nature's ultimate troll.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;51938562]It never ceases to amaze me that something that smells that fucking delicious can be so fucking bitter. It's like nature's ultimate troll.[/QUOTE]
I always forget, as a person that drinks black coffee only, that to someone who doesn't have the acquired taste, it's a bitter flavour
that shows you how much I love coffee
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51938600]I always forget, as a person that drinks black coffee only, that to someone who doesn't have the acquired taste, it's a bitter flavour
that shows you how much I love coffee[/QUOTE]
Isn't it bitter regardless? I like dark chocolate but my tongue still recognizes that it's not as sweet as plain milk chocolate.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51938600]I always forget, as a person that drinks black coffee only, that to someone who doesn't have the acquired taste, it's a bitter flavour
that shows you how much I love coffee[/QUOTE]
Oh I drink black coffee too, it was an acquired taste over years of me being a lazy arse and forgetting to buy milk but needing my caffeine fix. :v:
Now, I find it weird and "fancy" to drink coffee with milk, so it's a "treat yo'self" moment when I do. :)
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51938600]I always forget, as a person that drinks black coffee only, that to someone who doesn't have the acquired taste, it's a bitter flavour
that shows you how much I love coffee[/QUOTE]
black coffee is really weird to me, having grown up in melbourne where cappucinos and lattes are the norm. it's hot brown dirt water. it's fucked that people have 'gotten used' to that shit
Black coffee is delicious. Not quite sure how I got started drinking it over coffee with cream but now that I'm accustomed to it, it's absolutely unbeatable
[QUOTE=Rusty100;51938638]black coffee is really weird to me, having grown up in melbourne where cappucinos and lattes are the norm. it's hot brown dirt water. it's fucked that people have 'gotten used' to that shit[/QUOTE]
I like lattes but I'm not going to order one for anything but a special occasion
typical coffee here is drip brewed and having grown up with that, everything else seems excessive and fancy and way too rich for me. A really good coffee bean grind and some water and off you go, that's all you need, everything else is just over doing it.
most people drink coffee with milk but I don't really like milk, and I avoid sugars in as many things as I can, so I drink it black.
[editline]9th March 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=gk99;51938611]Isn't it bitter regardless? I like dark chocolate but my tongue still recognizes that it's not as sweet as plain milk chocolate.[/QUOTE]
I suppose but I don't really register it as "bitter", there's a lot of undertones and flavours at work
it's a lot like red wine in that sense but unlike red wine you don't need to spend much to get good coffee beans.
coffee was once an amazingly awesome luxury and a risque, but decadent alternative to tea
now its just Tim hortons
im hoping for the newest coffee that will revolutionize my morning breakfast!
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51938778]I like lattes but I'm not going to order one for anything but a special occasion
[/QUOTE]
calling a latte something for a special occasion is hilarious. drip brewed/french press coffee is heinous.
[QUOTE=sYnced;51938793]coffee was once an amazingly awesome luxury and a risque, but decadent alternative to tea[/QUOTE]
Cafe's, or coffee bars at the time, were likely the source of the "enlightenment" as before that much of the sources of drinkable water were in the form of beers and alcohols
or so i've read
My sister lives in Melbourne it was probably the most beautiful city I'be ever been to. So much to do, a great art/music culture, and people were so fucking friendly.
I think drip/filter coffee tastes like dirt too and i usually have it with a little milk, but any kind of espresso is pure bliss, milk or not.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;51938562]It never ceases to amaze me that something that smells that fucking delicious can be so fucking bitter. It's like nature's ultimate troll.[/QUOTE]
Generally speaking coffee shouldn't be very bitter. Usually that means the extraction process was messed up and the coffee was over-extracted. That or your coffee to water ratio was off. There's a lot of nuances that many people don't know that factor in to making a good cup of coffee. There's a large variety of brewing methods available that each have their own pros and cons too.
I personally prefer to use a french press. They're cheap, easy to clean if you get the right one, and best of all they allow you to control how you brew your coffee. I always buy freshly roasted whole bean coffee and then grind it right before brewing. Freshly grinding your beans will make your brew taste a whole lot better compared to pre-ground garbage. I also use a kitchen scale to measure how much coffee I add in to my french press in order to maintain consistency, so it's never too strong or too watered down. The coffee to water ratio is critical when it comes to taste. Another tip is to use hot water that is the appropriate temperature for your particular coffee bean, usually manufacturers will put that on the product packaging for convenience. My usual go-to temperature range is 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit. Some coffee can actually be burnt, just like tea.
I fucking love coffee.
[QUOTE=Amez;51938961]Generally speaking coffee shouldn't be very bitter. Usually that means the extraction process was messed up and the coffee was over-extracted. That or your coffee to water ratio was off. There's a lot of nuances that many people don't know that factor in to making a good cup of coffee. There's a large variety of brewing methods available that each have their own pros and cons too.
I personally prefer to use a french press. They're cheap, easy to clean if you get the right one, and best of all they allow you to control how you brew your coffee. I always buy freshly roasted whole bean coffee and then grind it right before brewing. Freshly grinding your beans will make your brew taste a whole lot better compared to pre-ground garbage. I also use a kitchen scale to measure how much coffee I add in to my french press in order to maintain consistency, so it's never too strong or too watered down. The coffee to water ratio is critical when it comes to taste. Another tip is to use hot water that is the appropriate temperature for your particular coffee bean, usually manufacturers will put that on the product packaging for convenience. My usual go-to temperature range is 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit. Some coffee can actually be burnt, just like tea.
I fucking love coffee.[/QUOTE]
Over here in South India, we have a different type of coffee that's very popular called "[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_filter_coffee"]Filter coffee[/URL]" or "Zero Degree coffee".
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Filter_coffee_South_Indian_style.JPG/1280px-Filter_coffee_South_Indian_style.JPG[/t]
This is how it looks like the way we make it traditionally here. It's awesome, if you can get the chance to order it.
Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to shill for [URL="http://bluetokaicoffee.com/"]Blue Tokai[/URL], because I've been a happy customer for a few years now and you get to taste coffee from around India, too. If you know of our reputation for tea, you'll fucking [I]love[/I] the stuff we do with coffee.
[QUOTE=gk99;51938611]Isn't it bitter regardless? I like dark chocolate but my tongue still recognizes that it's not as sweet as plain milk chocolate.[/QUOTE]
Add enough cream and it won't be bitter at all.
However add enough cream and you may as well just drink milk instead.
Personally, I add a bit of creamer in so it's more of a deep, dark brown than black. And some sugar, probably more sugar than I ought to.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;51938802]calling a latte something for a special occasion is hilarious. drip brewed/french press coffee is heinous.[/QUOTE]
And I'd just say you're not a true lover of coffee
I hate coffee, its just bitter and overwhelming (I hate tea too)
[QUOTE=snookypookums;51938515]I've noticed on my trips to Australia that they have a pretty solid coffee culture there. You Aussies seem to be [I]very[/I] particular about your coffee and some of the best coffee I've had has, coincidentally, been at Aussie cafes.
Is there any particular reason you decided to not go with the rest of the commonwealth and not favour tea as much?[/QUOTE]
It's mostly from the huge waves of European immigrants, especially Italians, who brought their espresso machines with them decades ago, and it just blossomed from there.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51938803]Cafe's, or coffee bars at the time, were likely the source of the "enlightenment" as before that much of the sources of drinkable water were in the form of beers and alcohols
or so i've read[/QUOTE]
the main difference is that before tea, coffee, and tobacco pretty much the only commonly available drug around (alcohol) was a depressant
the new stuff that started coming in the 17th century was stuff that acted as stimulants, although they didn't do much for the enlightenment
[QUOTE=Rusty100;51938802]calling a latte something for a special occasion is hilarious. drip brewed/french press coffee is heinous.[/QUOTE]
You probably havent had properly prepared French press coffee if you think it tastes like shit. Its like a dark beer, it has a ton of awesome roasted and aromatic flavors when it's made well.
Caramel coffee is the greatest shit, but tea is what I was born for. True coffee will never be my thing, but that's maybe because German coffee fucking sucks.
i spend too much money on coffee, its kinda gross
I love coffee but I usually just end up bulk buying the second cheapest freeze dried shite I can find. I lucked out last month, my local supermarket was selling Carte Noire for 60p a jar when it's usually priced around £4-5. Basically bought the entire pallet.
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