• Elon Musk hints at new battery breakthrough on the horizon (several years away)
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[QUOTE][QUOTE="Musk"]Oh, God. Ok, here’s my opinion of the battery breakthrough of the week of battery breakthrough du jour. When somebody has like some great claim that they’ve got this awesome battery, you know what? Send us a sample. Or if you don’t trust us, send it to an independent lab where the parameters can be verified. Otherwise, STF (like meant STFU). Yes. So everything works on PowerPoint. If you like, I’ll give you a PowerPoint presentation about teleportation to the Andromeda Galaxy. [/QUOTE] ... [QUOTE="JB Straubel"]More specifically on the solid-state batteries. We’ve talked to a number of different groups that are researching this and we actually have tested a number of those very early prototype single cells. But we don’t yet see anything that changes our strategy.[/QUOTE] ... [QUOTE="Musk"]There are some breakthroughs that I think are achievable. They’re confidential, so I can’t talk about them on this call, but there’s one particular avenue that I am confident could be made to work that would be the most significant breakthrough in a while. But again, you’ve got to make it work in the lab. It doesn’t yet work in the lab now, but it’s promising in the lab. [/QUOTE] After making it work in the lab, they would have to make it work at “moderate production levels” and then move to “high production levels” to optimize the cost. Musk said that it’s still several years away. [/QUOTE] [url]https://electrek.co/2017/08/03/elon-musk-hints-at-new-battery-breakthrough-on-the-horizon/[/url]
Solid state batteries, cool. Anyone capable of differentiating those from regular batteries in laymans terms?
I'd be more interested in that powerpoint presentation about teleportation to the andromeda galaxy to be honest
[QUOTE=Kylel999;52548108]Solid state batteries, cool. Anyone capable of differentiating those from regular batteries in laymans terms?[/QUOTE] There was an article about it a few months ago here, but [URL="https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-02/uota-lbi022817.php"]John Goodenough (The original 95-year old inventor of the Li-Ion battery) recently came up with a new battery topology that is much safer than Li-Ion.[/URL] TL;DR Whenever your recharge or discharge your Li-Ion battery, small little metal whiskers form inside the battery that slowly bridge the cathode and the anode (A process known as [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration"]electromigration[/URL]). Eventually this can lead to anything ranging from not being able to hold a charge anymore (due to internal shorts) or explosive short which could explode the battery. His new topology uses different cathode & anode materials along with a glass (instead of lithium salt electrolyte) which doesn't encourage the growth of these whiskers.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52548213]There was an article about it a few months ago here, but [URL="https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-02/uota-lbi022817.php"]John Goodenough (The original 95-year old inventor of the Li-Ion battery) recently came up with a new battery topology that is much safer than Li-Ion.[/URL] TL;DR Whenever your recharge or discharge your Li-Ion battery, small little metal whiskers form inside the battery that slowly bridge the cathode and the anode (A process known as [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration"]electromigration[/URL]). Eventually this can lead to anything ranging from not being able to hold a charge anymore (due to internal shorts) or explosive short which could explode the battery. His new topology uses different cathode & anode materials along with a glass (instead of lithium salt electrolyte) which doesn't encourage the growth of these whiskers.[/QUOTE] He's a real genius. Redefining one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century, and at 95 years old? Give that man a Nobel prize already.
[QUOTE=Adeptus;52551177] Give that man a Nobel prize already.[/QUOTE] Maybe they thought his invention wasn't Goodenough
[QUOTE=Davoc;52551225]Maybe they thought his invention wasn't Goodenough[/QUOTE] B-but... he [i]is[/i] Goodenough.
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