• 'Looming crisis' as cemeteries across Canada run out of space
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[quote=looming crisis]Canadians have been running out of space to bury their dead for years, but there are few easy solutions to what one landscape architect calls a “looming crisis.”Erik Lees, a principal at LEES+Associates landscape architecture and cemetery planning firm, said the shortage of cemetery space in Canada goes back at least 20 to 25 years. In Vancouver, where he is based, it was clear even back in the 1990s that the city was running out of burial plots, Lees told CTV News Channel on Wednesday, Today, the city’s only graveyard, Mountain View Cemetery, has only a few hundred gravesites available. Each costs about $25,000. The lack of space has been driving up full-body burial costs across the country, but prices vary depending on location. In denselypopulated regions such as the Greater Toronto Area, there is now a “looming crisis” as the elderly approach the end of their lives, Lees said. The problem persists across North America due to poor urban planning, he said. “We’re running out of room because, as I characterize cemeteries, they’re the forgotten landscape, they’re the forgotten land use,” he said. “We’ve managed to, on the whole, build healthy cities with good infrastructure and downtown cores and housing…but we’ve really neglected the importance of remembrance and places of grief and mourning. [B]Lees said potential solutions, such as filling in unused roads and ditches to make room for graves, “only go so far.”[/B] [B]“Frankly, if it weren’t for cremation this crisis would be upon us some years ago,” he said. [/B][/quote] [URL="http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/looming-crisis-as-cemeteries-across-canada-run-out-of-space-1.3365620?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark"]rest in source[/URL] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Don't editorialize titles" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
Just start cremating everyone, jeez. What is with mankind's need to bury dead people in useless boxes. It's like some strange species-wide obsession.
Cremating is so wasteful [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/URL] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road. edit: not being serious guys lol
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/url] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road.[/QUOTE] what the fuck
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/url] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road.[/QUOTE] Different regions. I'd rather we didn't fucking leave dead bodies to rot in the open in BC.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/url] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road.[/QUOTE] It's not like corpses carry or spread diseases or anything
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/url] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure leaving unidentified bodies all over the place isn't the best idea. And imagine all the skeletons left after they decompose lol
Man, now I get why this was such a big issue in Cities Skylines.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/URL] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road. /s[/QUOTE] Some pretty disturbing images for a Wikipedia article.
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;52095731]Some pretty disturbing images for a Wikipedia article.[/QUOTE] Went there thinking it would be throwing someone off a really high cliff or mountain top so they just vaporize when they hit the ground but this seems worse
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/URL] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road. /s[/QUOTE] How would you identify a crime scene?
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;52095693]It's not like corpses carry or spread diseases or anything[/QUOTE] [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_risks_from_dead_bodies]Unless they're dead from plague, in which case they're about as much of a threat as infected surfaces/cloth, then they actually don't. It's more a morale and water purity thing that leads to rescue missions burying the dead as a priority.[/url]
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;52095731]Some pretty disturbing images for a Wikipedia article.[/QUOTE] Friend showed me a video on a sky burial when I was on a comedown from LSD, lets just say I panicked. NSFL=: (Not tagging cause gore) [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUp4jUMIy68[/url]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/URL] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road. /s[/QUOTE] Or you could just start dissolving people in lye, or other alkaline solutions, then flush the harmless organic sludge down the drain. Industrial tissue digesters also create conditions hostile enough to completely denature and thus destroy prions, which is one of the few net benefits to cremation. Instead of ashes, you end up with calcium phosphate, a harmless white powdery substance that can be used in lieu of ashes, or casually disposed of. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_hydrolysis_(death_custom)[/url] Oh, and lye is seriously cheaper than dirt.
Soylent green.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;52095786]Friend showed me a video on a sky burial when I was on a comedown from LSD, lets just say I panicked. NSFL=: (Not tagging cause gore) [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUp4jUMIy68[/url][/QUOTE] my feet feel really weird after watching that
[QUOTE=grr164;52095641]Just start cremating everyone, jeez. What is with mankind's need to bury dead people in useless boxes. It's like some strange species-wide obsession.[/QUOTE] Few reasons. * Some people have an easier time moving on if their deceased loved one still exists in some quasi-recognizeable form * Some religions rely on the body being disposed of by burial as a requisite for their specific afterlife * In cases of foul play or suspicious circumstances, full body burial will often preserve evidence that was overlooked and would be destroyed if the body were cremated. * Some crematoriums may have a backlog, or be unaffordable where a grave plot might be * Some people just want their corpse in a box in the ground. For me? Put me in a cheap pine box, place it on a wooden plinth on a bomb range, fill it with ANFO, bury it in even more ANFO, and set it all off. If a few hundred pounds of ANFO can reduce a cement truck to unrecognizeable chunks of cast iron it should ensure there's absolutely no physical trace of my existence left on Earth. Or even the box, the plinth, and a fair bit of the earth that was beneath me would then be scattered around the bomb range. I'd almost put it in my will that I would be disposed of by placing me within 100 feet of a nuclear detonation, but we haven't done atmospheric testing in >40 years so that's not possible.
I personally intend on having my body being taking apart, deboned, and the meat being turned into fish pellets which will be delivered to the river I use to go fishing in as a kid, and be fed to the trout that come in from Lake Erie during the salmon run. Burial just seems like a waste of material and resources. All men and women must simply return to the earth, and become the fertilizer for the next generation of creatures.
When I die, I honestly don't care what happens to my body. I'll be dead. I just want my best friend to have my skull on his mantle piece, which he has agreed to
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52095660]Cremating is so wasteful [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial[/URL] This but without the structures, just throw people off the side of the road. /s[/QUOTE] It's also forbidden for outsiders to be there and see the ritual take place (they chop off the limbs of corpses).
I just want a cement block or two tied to my feet and to be dumped over a boat into the ocean. I'll be dead, I won't care, You won't have to spend thousands of dollars on a dumb crying session that is a funeral and can spend it on nice stuff for yourself, it'll actually help an ecosystem, and it won't waste increasingly less space for some dumb tradition
Keep in mind that cremation still means a lot of CO2 getting released over time. That's not ideal, though of course neither is wasting land space that could down the line mean more habitat destruction as land becomes more valuable.
I plan on having my skin turned into a drum and then given to Butthurter to play Happy Birthday for me every year after my death.
When I die my will says to mummify me and hide me in one of the unsold couches at my local Living Spaces
[QUOTE=Claxx;52095688]Different regions. I'd rather we didn't fucking leave dead bodies to rot in the open in BC.[/QUOTE] Well they do it far away from people. I feel that if we did this in California, Our vultures and condors might make a comeback since they hover over roads
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;52095868]I personally intend on having my body being taking apart, deboned, and the meat being turned into fish pellets which will be delivered to the river I use to go fishing in as a kid, and be fed to the trout that come in from Lake Erie during the salmon run. Burial just seems like a waste of material and resources. All men and women must simply return to the earth, and become the fertilizer for the next generation of creatures.[/QUOTE] I like the idea of donating any still-good tissue by the time I die and then cremating the rest for use as fertilizer for trees.
[QUOTE=robotnik185;52095707]Pretty sure leaving unidentified bodies all over the place isn't the best idea. And imagine all the skeletons left after they decompose lol[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Fapplejack;52095693]It's not like corpses carry or spread diseases or anything[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Claxx;52095688]Different regions. I'd rather we didn't fucking leave dead bodies to rot in the open in BC.[/QUOTE] A small tower/platform is usually built and the graveyards are on specific mountains. Some native americans also practiced this and i'm sure many people have seen such burial platforms even in pop culture western imagery. imo it's more flattering to be picked apart by birds rather than by earthworms or fish. When suffering is over death is no more grotesque than a compost heap.
I don't know what they're talking about. There's plenty of room in a cemetary north of vancouver.
original title of this thread was fine when i die i want to be made into hamburger
just fire my body off into space
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