Carleton University comes under heavy criticism after gym scale removed
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Carleton University is feeling the burn from students on social media for removing a weight scale from its gym to promote a more holistic approach to a healthy body image.
The recent move isn't sitting well with several students who are accusing the school of kowtowing to a small group of gym users who are easily offended.
"Next it will be the mirrors. #bringbackthescale," wrote one Carleton student on Facebook, while another said online, "Are you for real, Carleton? What a sick joke."
Details of the scale controversy were first reported in the university's student-run newspaper, The Charlatan, on Thursday. In more social media reaction, others wondered if the online article was satire.
The paper quotes one student as saying, "Scales are very triggering" for people with eating disorders.
In an email to CBC News, Bruce Marshall, manager of wellness programs at Carleton, said it was the recreation and athletics department's decision to remove the scale and that it wasn't based on complaints.
Following three days of online backlash from students, Marshall told CBC, "we will weigh the pros and cons and may reconsider our decision."
The scale was removed two weeks ago "in keeping with current fitness and social trends," Marshall explained in his email.
"Although it can be used as a tool to help measure certain aspects of fitness it does not provide a good overall indication of health and here at athletics we have chosen to move away from focusing solely on bodyweight," he said.
"If you need a number to focus on in regard to reaching certain fitness goals we suggest using girth measurements. You can start by recording measurements in multiple areas, for example your torso, hips, chest, legs and arms. You would then revisit these measurements after a few weeks to keep tabs on your progress."[/quote]
[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/carleton-gym-remove-scale-controversy-1.4021378[/url]
Man, its a fuckin weighing scale
do people get so fucking triggered these days
The scale at gyms are often not to weight yourself, its to weight the weight plates since they can be off by several grams and it can affect performance.
smh retards shouldnt run a gym
Pretty much need a scale to make progress when you're a strength athlete. (Monitor your weight and caloric intake and you can calculate how much you need to eat without excessive fat gain.)
If you can't handle seeing your own weight, you need to be on that scale. I'm all for feeling good about different body images, but there comes a point where you're pretty much encouraging unhealthy lifestyles.
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[QUOTE]Following three days of online backlash from students, Marshall told CBC, [B]"we will weigh the pros and cons and may reconsider our decision[/B]
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Man, its a fuckin weighing scale
do people get so fucking triggered these days[/QUOTE]
[I] If only they had a scale...[/I]
They said that they were trying to "follow current social trends", so obviously someone complained about it despite them saying otherwise.
[QUOTE]The paper quotes one student as saying, "Scales are very triggering" for people with eating disorders.[/QUOTE]So don't use them?
I dunno, it's not like someone is pointing a gun at their head to force them use those "Triggering" scales...
[QUOTE=Flubbman;51958794]So don't use them?[/QUOTE]
B-but I want a h-healthy lifestyle :'(
[QUOTE]Carleton University is feeling the burn from students on social media for removing a weight scale from its gym to promote a more holistic approach to a healthy body image. [/QUOTE]
They want to promote healthy body images, but remove an objective way of measuring it?
What's the point? Odds are the ones who complained didn't use the gym anyway.
This is dumb and indefensible.
Who wants to [I]bet[/I] (not beat) the people asking for them to be removed don't even use the gym? :U
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51958842]Who wants to beat the people asking for them to be removed don't even use the gym? :U[/QUOTE]
They just need to put the scales back, I don't think beatings are appropriate.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51958850]They just need to put the scales back, I don't think beatings are appropriate.[/QUOTE]
At this point they probably well deserve a fecking beating.
.... *bet.
This will just turn into people bringing in bathroom scales and leaving them around everywhere at the gym
Oh this is fucking bullshit.
I had a "eating disorder". I had a "weight problem". I weighed 247 lbs in 2012. I weigh a healthy 185(less in the last month) now and a scale was a pretty decently important part of that. I weighed myself in 2012, and I lost my mind, I got "Triggered" all right, I was triggered to lose the fucking weight.
I actually go to Carleton and I haven't heard many complaints about this for a while, although both sides of the argument are stupid, its not like as you work out you lose weight in that instance, so weighing yourself before you work out and after you workout is pointless. There is actually a train that goes from Carleton to Wal-Mart and some other shopping stores where there are $15 scales people can buy.
[QUOTE=Shirky;51959583]I actually go to Carleton and I haven't heard many complaints about this for a while, although both sides of the argument are stupid, its not like as you work out you lose weight in that instance, so weighing yourself before you work out and after you workout is pointless. There is actually a train that goes from Carleton to Wal-Mart and some other shopping stores where there are $15 scales people can buy.[/QUOTE]
People don't use scales in the gym to weigh themselves before and after a workout (if they do, they are misinformed about how weight loss/gain works). They use it to weigh themselves at consistent points in time throughout the week to gain a better understanding of their weight loss/gain progress.
There are literally no stupid arguments in favour of having scales in a gym. It is asinine to encourage everyone who wants to use a scale to buy one for themselves when it is standard piece of equipment in any gym. Next you'll be telling me that having dumbbells in a gym is pointless and I should just buy my own for use at home.
fuck this. as someone who is working towards losing excess weight (started at about 260lbs, I'm down to 254lbs today) scales are super important. if you're triggered by the fact you're fat, maybe you should actually do something about it and work towards losing that weight (not just go to the gym occasionally and eat a salad every once in a while. actually count your calories and have actual workouts).
If you're triggered by everyday apparatus you probably need counciling, and not worldwide sheltering.
[editline]14th March 2017[/editline]
[quote]"we will [I]weigh [/I]the pros and cons and may reconsider our decision."[/quote]
Please tell me this was intentional :v:
if you can't accept your weight, you will live your life in denial of your actual health
imagine being so easily upset that you're upset by a completely neutral object whose only purpose is to tell the truth
[quote]The paper quotes one student as saying, "Scales are very triggering" for people with eating disorders.[/quote]
Because if you're already struggling with an eating disorder of any kind, scales are the [I]real [/I]​mortal enemy here.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51960115]Because if you're already struggling with an eating disorder of any kind, scales are the [I]real [/I]​mortal enemy here.[/QUOTE]
daddy issues are hard to fix
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51959957]imagine being so easily upset that you're upset by a completely neutral object whose only purpose is to tell the truth[/QUOTE]
A lot of people can't handle objective facts these days.
It's a bit silly to remove them. Knowing your weight is important for workouts for a number of reason and it's also needed in some heart rate calculations.
[QUOTE=freaka;51958761]The scale at gyms are often not to weight yourself, its to weight the weight plates since they can be off by several grams and it can affect performance.
smh retards shouldnt run a gym[/QUOTE]
Yeah brah can't remember the last time I weighed any plates before putting them on a barbell...
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;51962096]Yeah brah can't remember the last time I weighed any plates before putting them on a barbell...[/QUOTE]
I've been lifting for over a decade now and have never done that.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;51962096]Yeah brah can't remember the last time I weighed any plates before putting them on a barbell...[/QUOTE]
I know people that do it daily, and it's simply because not all plates are directly for e.g 20kg. They can be anywhere from 19.3-19.95 and it can affect a lot when you're doing heavy lifts. Some shitty plates also grind down and lose weight after looong use.
I find it quite funny (maybe even ironic?) that this time the "triggered" party is demanding the scales be put back, with only one student comment about wanting the scales removed while the rest of the complaints are by people wanting them re-installed.
People will get triggered by anything these days, am I right.
[QUOTE=Fetret;51963917]I find it quite funny (maybe even ironic?) that this time the "triggered" party is demanding the scales be put back, with only one student comment about wanting the scales removed while the rest of the complaints are by people wanting them re-installed.
People will get triggered by anything these days, am I right.[/QUOTE]
Getting "triggered" by something as ridiculous as removing a scale in a place that is designed among other things to either lose weight or gain weight through muscle sounds pretty legitimate to me. In fact, "triggered" isn't the right word at all, and I'm not sure if you even know what being "triggered" is.
I'd feel much less triggered going into a gym with the exercise equipment removed so I don't feel weight guilt. Thanks Carleton.
[QUOTE=Bertie;51964002]Getting "triggered" by something as ridiculous as removing a scale in a place that is designed among other things to either lose weight or gain weight through muscle sounds pretty legitimate to me. In fact, "triggered" isn't the right word at all, and I'm not sure if you even know what being "triggered" is.[/QUOTE]
Exactly it is not the right word. Just like it was not the right word for the OP the use, or the media student in the article to use when there is very little evidence for it.
[editline]15th March 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51959244]Oh this is fucking bullshit.
I had a "eating disorder". I had a "weight problem". I weighed 247 lbs in 2012. I weigh a healthy 185(less in the last month) now and a scale was a pretty decently important part of that. I weighed myself in 2012, and I lost my mind, I got "Triggered" all right, I was triggered to lose the fucking weight.[/QUOTE]
Not saying it makes the decision or that one tweet complaint any more logical, but eating disorders in this context almost always means anorexia and bulimia and not being a fat ass.
You know, the people who obsessively weigh themselves and cut even the basic nutrients to lose even more weight. The people who are genuinely "triggered" into losing weight.
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