Porn star August Ames dies after backlash to controversial tweet
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[quote]A US porn star who sparked an online firestorm over tweets about working with men who had appeared in gay adult movies has died.
August Ames, 23, who starred in more than 270 films and twice won at the Adult Video News Awards, passed away in Camarillo, California on Wednesday, the Ventura County Medical Examiner confirmed.
Police told local media her cause of death was still being investigated but was not being treated as suspicious.
In a statement, her husband and director Kevin Moore said: “She was the kindest person I ever knew and she meant the world to me. Please leave this as a private family matter in this difficult time.”
Ms Ames, originally from Canada, was earlier this week branded a “homophobe” after revealing she had pulled out of an adult film after finding out her co-star was a “crossover”.
“Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow for @EroticaXNews, you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know,” she wrote. “BS is all I can say. Do agents really not care about who they’re representing? I do my homework for my body.”
After being accused of “discriminating” against the gay community, she added: “Sorry, it was just my opinion. My body, my rules. Honestly I’m sorry if I offended anyone.”
The tweet drew the ire of many of her colleagues, with both male and female actors weighing in. “It’s extremely unfair to be black listed because a ridiculous naive stigmatism created by unethical homophobes,” Eli Hunter tweeted.
“I have been doing films for over 8 years and have never contracted anything because my health and safety comes first. So yes, offence taken.”
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Nick Capra said she “may be the stupidest woman I’ve come across in 15 years of this industry”. “Next time use your brain when openly being a c*** on Twitter,” he said.
Sinn Sage described safety concerns as “bulls***”. “Before your shoot [with] said performer, for a [big] shoot, he would have to get tested, by the same testing companies we all use,” she tweeted.
“When the results are clear, you are clear to f*** him. AND you can ask to use a condom if you want. So there is literally no reason to discriminate.”
Jaxton Wheeler said the “world is awaiting your apology or for you to swallow a cyanide pill”. “Either or we’ll take it,” he tweeted.
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In response, Ms Ames tweeted that she was “not homophobic”. “Most girls don’t shoot with guys who have shot gay porn, for safety,” she wrote. “That’s just how it is with me. I’m not putting my body at risk, I don’t know what they do in their private lives.”
She later added she didn’t “have anything to apologise for”. “Apologising for taking extra steps to ensure that my body stays safe?” she tweeted.
“F*** you guys attacking me when none of my intentions were malicious. I f***ing love the gay community! What the f*** ever! I CHOOSE who I have inside my body. No hate.”
In her final tweet, sent on Tuesday night, she wrote, “F*** y’all.”[/quote]
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[QUOTE]Jaxton Wheeler said the “world is awaiting your apology or for you to swallow a cyanide pill”. “Either or we’ll take it,” he tweeted.
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[QUOTE=Jaxton Wheeler]I'm going to sleep just fine, I stood up for the Gay and Bisexual community, or I say nothing and let more people mislable and judge millions, because of one misinformed mouth? [B]No one told her to do anything harmful to herself[/B].[/QUOTE]
uhhh
holy shit, why would this ever happen? Nobody has any right to have sex with you, so if she doesn't want to fuck X actor then that's it, period. End of discussion. The reason doesn't and should never matter when it comes to something like this.
Edit: That guy is a fucking scumbag and deserves every bit of vitriol she wound up getting. Is she not entitled to her own body and who can interact with it? This is fucking disgusting, and you know for a fact that dude is a mysoginistic piece of trash.
[QUOTE]Nick Capra said she “may be the stupidest woman I’ve come across in 15 years of this industry." [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953217]holy shit, why would this ever happen? Nobody has any right to have sex with you, so if she doesn't want to fuck X actor then that's it, period. End of discussion. The reason doesn't and should never matter when it comes to something like this.[/QUOTE]
Theres a difference between not choosing to fuck someone and publicly telling everyone the reason you didn't fuck someone is that he did gay porn and you're afraid of getting aids (because he did gay porn).
As everyone in the industry pointed out to her, pornstars get tested for sexual diseases basically anytime before they do shoots, and most male pornstars have done gay porn before. If she was still afraid of getting aids because the guy did gay porn, she could've worn a condom OR just not did the shoot.
Whats fucked up is her "warning" the person who was going to take over the shoot and doing it in such a disgusting public manner.
[QUOTE=Ames] you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know. BS is all I can say路•♀️ Do agents really not care about who they’re representing?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ames] i don’t know what they do in their private lives.[/QUOTE]
If she just would've dropped out of the shoot and not made this disgusting twitter mess, it wouldn't even be a big deal and no one would've cared.
I dont think people were upset with her refusal, I think they were upset with the reasoning behind her decision, which was completely uninformed (she thought that gay people are filled with STDs).
The backlash against her was much too far though. Although to be fair given the severity of the backlash something tells me that we aren't getting the whole story.
Sounds like suicide... I respect her right to choose who she works with but her public reason wasn't very good IMO. Still, it was her choice. The ultimate result is sad.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;52953223][QUOTE=Ames]i don’t know what they do in their private lives.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Shouldn't that apply to everyone? She should have just kept her mouth shut...
Also sorry for the joke, it was in bad taste and wasn't going to be popular so I deleted it.
I feel like I should feel bad for her or something, but I don't. She was a shitty person. Being dead just makes her a dead shitty person.
Yeah those tweets dont really leave anything to interpretation. They probably put her out of a job
[QUOTE=GunFox;52953240]Being dead just makes her a dead shitty person.[/QUOTE]
So fertilizer?
I mean online harassment can be incredibly brutal, and if someone is in the adult film industry it is probably stupid difficult to find work afterwords, and if you are blacklisted it can lose you tons of cash for sure.
However her initial tweet+her reaction to the negativity was overblown and I feel there were other underlying issues rather than this fairly shallow article that feels like its trying to make a narrative out of something without all of the information
[QUOTE=Cold Finger;52953244]So fertilizer?[/QUOTE]
Too much plastic is bad for the soil
Yeah, something tells me this probably wasnt an isolated incident
I mean what she could have done to not have any of this happen was say "I don't feel comfortable working on this shoot" and then not go and bitch to other people about it.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;52953223]Theres a difference between not choosing to fuck someone and publicly telling everyone the reason you didn't fuck someone is that he did gay porn and you're afraid of getting aids (because he did gay porn).
As everyone in the industry pointed out to her, pornstars get tested for sexual diseases basically anytime before they do shoots, and most male pornstars have done gay porn before. If she was still afraid of getting aids because the guy did gay porn, she could've worn a condom OR just not did the shoot.
Whats fucked up is her "warning" the person who was going to take over the shoot and doing it in such a disgusting public manner.
If she just would've dropped out of the shoot and not made this disgusting twitter mess, it wouldn't even be a big deal and no one would've cared.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter what her reasoning is when it comes to [B]her fucking body[/B]. She can choose anything she wants, and you have to respect that. Do I think it's ok when it's based solely on the fact that actor's gay? No, but I don't care and I'm most certainly not petty enough of a person to hate her on Twitter for it.
[QUOTE=GunFox;52953240]I feel like I should feel bad for her or something, but I don't. She was a shitty person. Being dead just makes her a dead shitty person.[/QUOTE]
she was most likely mentally ill, she doesnt deserve to die for being a shitty person
Shit, she's kind of a legend where I'm from. She's one of the only semi notable people born in my town
Everyone in this story is a dumb asshole and nobody deserved to die
I especially dislike this jaxton cunt, you have to be a special kind of piece of shit to tell the friends of the person who killed herself because of an attack you launched that you won't lose sleep over her death
Who the fuck claps themselves on the back for causing a suicide period, let alone in conversation with people who loved the victim?????
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953274]It doesn't matter what her reasoning is when it comes to [B]her fucking body[/B]. She can choose anything she wants, and you have to respect that. Do I think it's ok when it's based solely on the fact that actor's gay? No, but I don't care and I'm most certainly not petty enough of a person to hate her on Twitter for it.[/QUOTE]
No one cares that she refused. People care that she went on to say
[Quote]you’re shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know. BS is all I can say路•♀️ Do agents really not care about who they’re representing?[/quote]
And this
[Quote]i don’t know what they do in their private lives[/quote]
Which by all accounts are some pretty insulting and uninformed drivel
She didn't deserve to be bullied into suicide, regardless of how much she did, yes, deserve to not be hired again for her stupidity
these people saying that they were standing up for gay rights after telling her to kill herself should piss off. Telling gays to kill themselves is still a very common thing today, if you want people to stop doing it don't turn around and do the same just because someone is being an idiot. If it really takes telling people to commit suicide then what you're standing up for is worth shit
Yeah she's a giant idiot for saying the shit she did in public but some of the responses were far more toxic than anything she said, and even stuff we would see being used against homosexuals in mass.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52953309]She didn't deserve to be bullied into suicide, regardless of how much she did, yes, deserve to not be hired again for her stupidity
these people saying that they were standing up for gay rights after telling her to kill herself should piss off. Telling gays to kill themselves is still a very common thing today, if you want people to stop doing it don't turn around and do the same just because someone is being an idiot. If it really takes telling people to commit suicide then what you're standing up for is worth shit
She shouldn't have taken this to public the way she did but the response is the exact shit we have seen in the past against homosexuals, toxic hatred.[/QUOTE]
I was just typing the same thing. People who are actually standing for gay rights know the effect that bullying can have. What a piss poor excuse to defend your hateful actions.
[QUOTE=Amber902;52953294]No one cares that she refused. People care that she went on to say
And this
Which by all accounts are some pretty insulting and uninformed drivel[/QUOTE]
You are allowed to not want to have sex with someone on the basis that they've previously had sex with men. Aren't there things that are just a NO for you when it comes to relationships and sex? Like, not liking gay people makes you an asshole 100%, but it doesn't make you deserve death, specially when we're talking about who you're letting into your body...
Also I think the agent comment is more about her not liking these kinds of people/shoots and her agent not properly catering to that, atleast that's how I interpret it.
Edit: You're ultimately spewing this hatred for someone's sexual preferences, which, hint HINT, was and is the exact same thing being done to gay people. It's a different context but it still applies. I just don't understand how anyone could justify or defend this in any way.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953350]You are allowed to not want to have sex with someone on the basis that they've previously had sex with men. Aren't there things that are just a NO for you when it comes to relationships and sex? Like, not liking gay people makes you an asshole 100%, but it doesn't make you deserve death, specially when we're talking about who you're letting into your body...
Also I think the agent comment is more about her not liking these kinds of people/shoots and her agent not properly catering to that, atleast that's how I interpret it.[/QUOTE]
Where's the bad reading rating when you need it?
She didn't want to have sex with a guy who did gay porn because she thought she'd get aids. Thats homophobic no matter how you cut it. Gay pornstars get the same amount of testing she does, she had no reason to flip out like that.
No ones saying she had to do the shoot, what everyones saying is that she shouldn't have spewed such shit on twitter and instead just privately dropped out.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953350]You are allowed to not want to have sex with someone on the basis that they've previously had sex with men. Aren't there things that are just a NO for you when it comes to relationships and sex? Like, not liking gay people makes you an asshole 100%, but it doesn't make you deserve death, specially when we're talking about who you're letting into your body...
Also I think the agent comment is more about her not liking these kinds of people/shoots and her agent not properly catering to that, atleast that's how I interpret it.
Edit: You're ultimately spewing this hatred for someone's sexual preferences, which, hint HINT, was and is the exact same thing being done to gay people. It's a different context but it still applies. I just don't understand how anyone could justify or defend this in any way.[/QUOTE]
Look, I understand the argument you're trying to make, and nominally I agree with you, but the way you're arguing is incredibly shite and you're doing nothing to aid your case by devolving into more insanity.
[QUOTE=Chris Morris;52953375]Look, I understand the argument you're trying to make, and nominally I agree with you, but the way you're arguing is incredibly shite and you're doing nothing to aid your case by devolving into more insanity.[/QUOTE]
I guess it's the hill I'm willing to die on lol, respecting people's wishes, no matter how stupid they may be.
I normally wouldn't care but the thing is that for me it's important to not bully people based on who they choose to have sex with, for [U]whatever[/U] reasons they may have to not want to have sex with those people. I thought this was an universally agreeable thing, and the blowback of this not being an universally agreeable thing was death.
edit: for me it's also sending this very scary message of "don't have bad opinions or we'll harass you until you kill yourself". Fucking terrifying
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953395]I guess it's the hill I'm willing to die on lol, respecting people's wishes, no matter how stupid they may be.
I normally wouldn't care but the thing is that for me it's important to not bully people based on who they choose to have sex with, for [U]whatever[/U] reasons they may have to not want to have sex with those people. I thought this was an universally agreeable thing, and the blowback of this not being an universally agreeable thing was death.
edit: for me it's also sending this very scary message of "don't have bad opinions or we'll harass you until you kill yourself". Fucking terrifying[/QUOTE]
how many times do you need to be told everybody agrees with you and is discussing a different point?
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953395]I guess it's the hill I'm willing to die on lol, respecting people's wishes, no matter how stupid they may be.
I normally wouldn't care but the thing is that for me it's important to not bully people based on who they choose to have sex with, for [U]whatever[/U] reasons they may have to not want to have sex with those people. I thought this was an universally agreeable thing, and the blowback of this not being an universally agreeable thing was death.
edit: for me it's also sending this very scary message of "don't have bad opinions or we'll harass you until you kill yourself". Fucking terrifying[/QUOTE]
People are allowed to shit on people with bad opinions, I don't know why you're acting as if it's an affront to her freedom of speech. You are basically arguing that even the most ignorant backwater opinions should be defended from attack because it might make someone feel bad that they were wrong. Don't forget that she chose to go public about her bigoted reasoning for ducking out of a film, no one else.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953395]I guess it's the hill I'm willing to die on lol, respecting people's wishes, no matter how stupid they may be.
I normally wouldn't care but the thing is that for me it's important to not bully people based on who they choose to have sex with, for [U]whatever[/U] reasons they may have to not want to have sex with those people. I thought this was an universally agreeable thing, and the blowback of this not being an universally agreeable thing was death.
edit: for me it's also sending this very scary message of "don't have bad opinions or we'll harass you until you kill yourself". Fucking terrifying[/QUOTE]
I think that an analogy might work best, to make it perfectly clear to you why she got the vitriol she did, and why people here are agreeing she was a shitty person for this:
[b]Scenario A:[/b]
"Why did you kick Paul out of your birthday party?"
"Because I don't feel comfortable with him being at my party."
[i]Totally reasonable and acceptable. No further explanation necessary. No one, other than maybe Paul and his friends, kicks up a fuss.[/i]
[b]Scenario B:[/b]
"Why did you kick Paul out of your birthday party?"
"Because I don't feel comfortable with [b]black people like him[/b] being at my party."
[i]Absolutely shitty rationale and opinion, absolutely deserves getting lambasted for such blatant bigotry.[/i]
Now, it's entirely possible that the rationale for Scenario A is the same as Scenario B. But the difference is that, in Scenario A, we don't know that. We don't [b]need[/b] to know that. He can have whatever shitty opinions he wants, as long as he keeps them to himself. No one asked him to explain why, and he didn't explain. All is well.
In Scenario B, though, [b]no one asked him to explain why, but he did anyways.[/b] And his explanation is disgusting. It would have been better for him if he had just kept his mouth shut and kept it to "he makes me uncomfortable," rather than expounding with "he makes me uncomfortable because he's black."
This is the same scenario. In this case, this woman exercised Scenario B, when she should have exercised Scenario A.
It's perfectly fine for her not to want to shoot with an actor, and decide to pull out of a film to not work with him.
The line she crossed is when she explained that the reason she didn't want to shoot with him is because he does gay porn, and implying that she'll catch a disease from him as a result of that. [b]That[/b] is the problem people have with her.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;52953350]You are allowed to not want to have sex with someone on the basis that they've previously had sex with men. Aren't there things that are just a NO for you when it comes to relationships and sex? Like, not liking gay people makes you an asshole 100%, but it doesn't make you deserve death, specially when we're talking about who you're letting into your body...
Also I think the agent comment is more about her not liking these kinds of people/shoots and her agent not properly catering to that, atleast that's how I interpret it.
Edit: You're ultimately spewing this hatred for someone's sexual preferences, which, hint HINT, was and is the exact same thing being done to gay people. It's a different context but it still applies. I just don't understand how anyone could justify or defend this in any way.[/QUOTE]
are you arguing with an imaginary third party or are you just bad at reading?
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